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Threading comments on talk pages.
Hi Steve,
You seem to have some difficulty understanding the way that threading comments work on talk pages. Talk pages are not flat chronological linear discussions; if they were, we wouldn't use indentation. Here is an example of a multithreaded conversation:
Hi everybody, I'm back. --Forrest 12:00
- Hi Forrest. How was your fourth of July? --Bob 01:15
- Why is the fourth of July special? --Roderick 02:00
- We Americans celebrate it as our independence day, Rod. --Forrest 03:20
- It's the day we got free of you Brits, of course. --Dave 04:00
- It was good Bob, how was yours? --Forrest 03:25
- Pretty good, fireworks were awesome. --Bob 04:00
- OMG I love fireworks. Ours were AWESOME this year! --Betty 04:10
- What was so awesome about them, Betty? --Forrest 05:40
- The smiley faces!!!! --Betty 06:00
- What was so awesome about them, Betty? --Forrest 05:40
- Yeah mine were pretty good too, Bob. --Forrest 05:45
- OMG I love fireworks. Ours were AWESOME this year! --Betty 04:10
- Pretty good, fireworks were awesome. --Bob 04:00
- Why is the fourth of July special? --Roderick 02:00
- Hey honey, give me a call when you get home OK? --Mom 01:30
- Ok mom, will do. --Forrest 03:30
- Hey mom, I just tried calling but no answer. IM me when you see this. --Forrest 05:50
- Hey Forrest. Welcome back. Will you have those reports ready for me today? --TheBoss 01:45
- Yeah boss, I'm almost done with them now, should be off to you before the end of the day. --Forrest 01:50
Some notable points in this conversation:
- I replied to Roderick's 2-indented comment with a 3-indented comment, then five minutes later replied to Bob's 1-indented comment with a 2-indented comment under that. Then Dave later put his reply to Roderick above my earlier reply to Bob, despite posting later than me.
- Similarly, I replied to Betty's 4-indented comment with a 5-indented comment, and then replied to Bob's 3-indented comment with my own 4-indented comment. Then much latter Betty put her response to me response above my lower reply to Bob, again despite chronology.
- I replied to my mom later in the afternoon, twice, while I replied to my boss immediately mid-day. However, because my mom commented before my boss, my replies to her goes above my boss's comment, even though I commented after my boss did.
On Talk:Time, I posted TWO comments: one "I concur...", in response to Manus' "Yes but time..."; and another, "My only real objection...", in response to your earlier "The retroactive first sentence says...". You wrote what appears to be a reply to "I concur...", but put it indented under "My only real objection...". You say in your edit summary "Your move gives a false impression that your lower comment is a response to my comment", but it does not, if you understand how indentation works; my comment is indented with other replies to your first comment. Instead, your move gives a false impression that you are responding to my second comment, when by all appearances you seem to be intending to respond to my first comment (which I imagine you took to be the first paragraph of a two-paragraph comment, but it is not; they're two separate comments).
Now that you've outdented your comment entirely, it looks like you're just starting fresh outside of the threads, and that's fine. But the way you originally posted broke the threading. "Proper chronological order" is not proper, because Wiki talk pages are not strictly chronological, they are threaded. --Pfhorrest (talk) 05:34, 6 July 2012 (UTC)
- I appreciate all of that, and as you well know Ive been editing here for ten years now, and know full well what indenting is. More to the point, I know that indenting has a purpose secondary to chronology - comments are primarily ordered chronologically. I understand that I may have indented my comment, and that gave you a false impression, and I apologise for that. But chronology is primary, and readers can decide what comments respond to which other comments. Its true that indents serve to indicate these kinds of responses, but before they do that indents simply indicate that a subsequent comment is separate from an above comment. Regards, -Stevertigo (t | c) 16:55, 6 July 2012 (UTC)
- Hi guys, would you want to check out this ANI and comment if you like? 71.169.190.154 (talk) 04:34, 12 July 2012 (UTC)
Response
The instances where "God" was changed to "Yahweh" refer exclusively to the Judeo-Christian god, so the switch was made to reflect that. Considering there are other conceptions of gods, many of which go by "God" in everyday conversation amongst sharers of such conceptions, the change is intended to eliminate vagueness and establish a neutral point of view. - 69.85.216.188 (talk) 05:16, 11 July 2012 (UTC)
- Good point. -69.85.216.188 (talk) 05:31, 11 July 2012 (UTC)
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Special vs General revelation
Done. Apologies for taking awhile to reply. Have been busy moving. Let me know if I can do anything more to help! Benkenobi18 (talk) 23:27, 28 July 2012 (UTC)
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Hi, sorry for having templated you, as you're obviously not new here. I have undone your unsourced edit to The Mothers of Invention. With a proper source explicitly backing the reference, the remark would be welcome. Otherwise it's a bit of wp:OR. - DVdm (talk) 18:15, 15 July 2015 (UTC)
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Article talk pages are not forums.
Please read WP:NOTFORUM - if you persist in abusing Talk:Bitcoin as a forum for bizarre rants, I shall report the matter, and ask that you be blocked from editing. AndyTheGrump (talk) 00:07, 28 July 2015 (UTC)
A reminder regarding editing restrictions imposed by ArbCom
As you no doubt remember, as a consequence of a 2010 ArbCom case concerning you, you were explicitly required to cite sources for all content you add to articles. Since this restriction has never been lifted your recent creation of unsourced articles on Snap (military) and Expressive power clearly violate the ArbCom ruling. I suggest that you bear this in mind in future, since I suspect that given your past history the community is unlikely to show much more patience with you. AndyTheGrump (talk) 19:16, 28 July 2015 (UTC)
- Article stubbing is not a crime, as it takes time to write a global compendium project. I understand that you may not happy there in Bristol, but if the aristos-kleptos money they pay you was worth a nickel they would have built that nice and easy to engineer walking bridge to Paris by now and have hired actual Europeans to do it, (jobs!). Rather than mooching off the Free (democratic honor, try it) people's of the world, and the work we provide, try the opposite. -Stevertigo (t | c, ed. 2002) 14:30, 1 August 2015 (UTC)