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The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the dispute resolution noticeboard's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

Have you discussed this on a talk page?

Yes, I have discussed this issue on a talk page already.

Location of dispute

• Talk:Capital punishment#Blanket deletion. (edit | subject | history | links | watch | logs)

Users involved

• Urutine32 (talk · contribs)
• Signedzzz (talk · contribs)

Dispute overview

Signedzzz deleted all changes I made to two sections about modern-day public opinion and contemporary era that were not previously opposed by any other user. I asked for a third opinion because he refused to give any explanation for these sections (we engaged in discussion previously only for other issues I don’t bring here, which are the sections about the Tang Dynasty and deterrence). Thanks to the third opinion intervention, I understood that some changes I made to the contemporary era were badly sourced. But I still believe the current versions of these two sections restored by Signedzzz are worse, and contain unsourced materials, while Signedzzz believes that "none" of the changes I propose are "an improvement".

Have you tried to resolve this previously?

Yes, Vanamonde93 came for third opinion. He "strongly" recommended me to make a list of my proposals so we can "work through them", but after I published only the proposals for modern-day public opinion, Signedzzz contended "Urutine32, you know none of this is going in the article. In fact it is probably enough to get you banned from editing. Please stop wasting my time." After that, Vanamonde93 declined to further intervene, and suggested me to put the issue to this board in his talk page.

How do you think we can help?

Help me to known why Signedzzz opposes the changes I propose, especially for the section about modern-day public opinion, so I can make the necessary changes.

Summary of dispute by Signedzzz

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@Signedzzz: Again, this noticeboard is for content disputes only. Personal attacks are never allowed on Misplaced Pages, and they are especially unhelpful in dispute resolution. If you are willing to participate, summarize the dispute here without making personal attacks. KSFT 21:22, 11 July 2016 (UTC)

It's not a "personal attack", it's a "summary of dispute", as requested. And I don't see what there is to add. zzz (talk) 21:30, 11 July 2016 (UTC)

@Urutine32: stop posting on my talk page, as I told you before. zzz (talk) 21:49, 11 July 2016 (UTC)

Talk:Capital punishment#Blanket deletion. discussion

There has been some discussion on the talk page, and the other involved user has been notified. Signedzzz, if you are willing to participate in this dispute resolution, the case can be opened. If you are, summarize the dispute in the labeled section above. Some of this dispute seems to be about user conduct. That part will not be discussed here. KSFT 11:05, 11 July 2016 (UTC)

• Volunteer note - I will add a few basic comments to what the moderator has said. Be civil and concise. Overly long statements are common but do not clarify the issues, and civility is always required. Comment on content, not on contributors. One of the reasons for this noticeboard is to resolve content disputes that sometimes result in conduct issues, but often resolving the content issue resolves everything. Robert McClenon (talk) 13:20, 11 July 2016 (UTC)

@Signedzzz: You commented above, but you have not summarized the dispute to be discussed here, which is about content. If you are not willing to participate in this discussion, let me know. KSFT 22:30, 11 July 2016 (UTC)

As I said, I don't see what else to add. Just to be clear, I (and several other users) oppose the user's edits and proposed edits to this article. zzz (talk) 22:36, 11 July 2016 (UTC)

I don't know whether seeking a formal mediation in this case would be appropriate. Urutine32 (talk) 19:15, 12 July 2016 (UTC)

I removed some off-topic comments above. This discussion is about content. Signedzzz, can you concisely explain why you don't like the edits? Urutine32, I might recommend formal mediation if a discussion here about the issue here fails to resolve it. KSFT 20:07, 12 July 2016 (UTC)

I believe this discussion will never results in resolution of the dispute, so I ask for closing it. Thank you. Urutine32 (talk) 16:39, 13 July 2016 (UTC)

I wish you wouldn't give up so easily, but if you're sure you want it closed and preferably have another way to resolve the dispute, I'll close it. KSFT 19:59, 13 July 2016 (UTC)

I don't know how we can progress if the other editor did not even issue a dispute summary. Urutine32 (talk) 20:07, 14 July 2016 (UTC)

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the dispute resolution noticeboard's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.