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"They are never alone that are accompanied with noble thoughts."
"To avoid criticism do nothing, say nothing, be nothing.
"This thing that we call 'failure' is not the falling down, but the staying down."
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"Don't be discouraged by a failure. It can be a positive experience. Failure is, in a sense, the highway to success, inasmuch as every discovery of what is false leads us to seek earnestly after what is true, and every fresh experience points out some form of error which we shall afterwards carefully avoid."
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Anthony
I would have blocked him for 24 hours, but since Wile E. has done it, I hesitate to do it without giving him a chance to discuss it with *me*, so I don't want *my* name on the block so that it looks as if I blocked him without a chance to reply. I'd really rather you get some other admin to do it. RickK 07:43, Nov 9, 2004 (UTC)
Medha Hari
You changed the article Medha Hari from speedy deletion candidate to cleanup. Medha Hari is probably a young dancer, and definitely not a major dancer. If that is enough criterion to be written about on the wikipedia, then in that case every music student in Julliard School and music conservatories and ballet companies would have to be written about. removing it from speedy deletion would be an ominous sign for the wikipedia. Water Fish 05:02, 10 Nov 2004 (UTC)
the inward links to that page has been created by the same author, it is very easy to create several links to a spam on the wikipedia. One should not be deceived by them.. Maybe if nobody responds to it within one day, it could be deleted. Water Fish 05:26, 10 Nov 2004 (UTC)
List of Biblical names starting with {foo}
Is it OK with you if I just move these to the Talk: space, and link to them from the Talk: page for the main list, as I suggested? Really, I think that would be much superior to a merge. I will happily do all the work, I just wanted to check with you before I did it. Noel (talk) 12:51, 10 Nov 2004 (UTC)
2004 U.S. Election controversies and irregularities
The neutrality is not disputed. Nor is the content. The title, scope, and layout is disputed. We are all in strong consensus here. All the material is cited and verified. Kevin Baas | talk 22:50, 2004 Nov 10 (UTC)
totally disputed image is Bush?
Is it just my imagination or does the totallydisputed header use a picture of bush with a red line threw him? Should it be a hand? Or is this a part of the article? Zen Master 23:24, 10 Nov 2004 (UTC)
US Election issues
Do you and maybe a couple of others working on this article want to meet on say wiki IRC, to discuss it, so we can try and mutually agree a consensus on its progress? FT2 00:21, Nov 11, 2004 (UTC)
A Note from a Sockpuppet
Your comment on the Misplaced Pages:Preliminary Deletion/Vote page labels me as a likely sockpuppet. Well, I'm not. I understand why Wikipedians should always be aware that some users are unscrupulous and will create alternate identities to get their agendas implemented. I assure you that I am a unique individual, although fairly new as a registered member of the community. Before registering I made several edits, and since I have tried to make myself as useful as possible to the community, while learning as much as I can about it. I do not appreciate your inaccurate assessment of me as a puppet, because your quick appraisal was obviously not well-researched. Please amend the comment you made on the Misplaced Pages:Preliminary Deletion/Vote page and rescind your condemnation of me, which undermines my vote and my voice as a member of the Misplaced Pages community. Anything else you accuse me of can be brought up on my talk page. Niceguyjoey 01:33, Nov 11, 2004 (UTC)
Netoholic, I think that your actions of accusing users of invalid votes on the Misplaced Pages:Preliminary Deletion/Vote have harmed Misplaced Pages. I recognize that preventing fraudulent votes is important. However, your actions cause more problems than they solve, and all in all, you have done more harm than good. Specifically, your actions work to taint the vote (by wrongly suggesting that votes are invalid), disenfranchise community members (by taking away their right to vote), and intimidate new community members from participating. This makes Misplaced Pages look bad to new users. I've already made some comments on the vote page, but because of continuing actions, I feel the need to mention this now on your talk page. -- Ben James Ben 03:34, 2004 Nov 11 (UTC)
Template: In the news
By whom? - Ta bu shi da yu 02:06, 11 Nov 2004 (UTC)
- Not acceptable. Do not make these sort of changes on IRC! There is absolutely no transparency if you do it this way!!! Take this to the talk page!!!! - Ta bu shi da yu 02:11, 11 Nov 2004 (UTC)
- I still don't see any talk on the talk page. This is news. I'd advise discussing it there. - Ta bu shi da yu 02:19, 11 Nov 2004 (UTC)
- And now I notice you blanked the page. Stop pushing your POV! - Ta bu shi da yu 04:34, 11 Nov 2004 (UTC)
- I still don't see any talk on the talk page. This is news. I'd advise discussing it there. - Ta bu shi da yu 02:19, 11 Nov 2004 (UTC)
Specific feedback
You wanted to know why I didn't think you were ready for administration yet. This edit is a good example - Ta bu shi da yu 04:44, 11 Nov 2004 (UTC)
- I feel no remorse. As I said before, that section is duplicated elsewhere. -- Netoholic @ 06:14, 2004 Nov 11 (UTC)
- Well, taking such unilateral measures on controversial subjects (even when I beleive some of your edits to be right) does not help. Stop reverting edits! The dubious tags are a good solution though. If you are happy to keep them there then I'll remove my request to have the page locked. - Ta bu shi da yu 07:33, 11 Nov 2004 (UTC)
2004 U.S. Election controversies and irregularities
Maybe I'm wrong here, but you seem to think it shouldn't be there at all. I don't mind that opinion, but have you considered taking this to VfD? - Ta bu shi da yu 07:20, 11 Nov 2004 (UTC)
IRC logout response
(04:24:25) Netoholic: I have +- 6000 edits (04:24:26) Netoholic: you ? (04:24:29) Netoholic: bye (04:24:59) zen-master: please forgive me then for interpreting your behavior this evening as coming from someone that has no knowledge of wikipedia's policies on controversy resolution (04:24:59) User is not logged in
I Stand By My Unilateral Statement
I stand by my assertation that your actions the last 24 hours on the election controversy and related articles have been extremely unilateral. You made premeditated changes and hidden reverts with the knowledge that more that one other person would disagree with you. You have yet to actually discuss or debate much of anything on talk pages, which hurts your case because you do have some valid concerns about the page. Please work towards consensus. Zen Master 17:45, 11 Nov 2004 (UTC)