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Kven user

Hi Drieakko.

I wonder, if I have encountered you before on Kven-related articles? Maybe as an anonymous user?

I am also thinking, if the best solution is not to take this matter to Arbitration, since it appears to be futile to discuss with the user known as "Kven-User" (a.k.a. user:Art Dominique, user:Digi Wiki, etc.)

I haven't been involved since the article was split, and at that time Art Dominique was blocked-- or in any case, he disappeared. But now that he is back in action again, it might be necessary to get a conclusion about this user. What do you think?

Fred-Chess 13:06, 2 September 2006 (UTC)

I created my first and only account sometime early this year. Just one user name and no anonymous postings unless accidentally when I haven't realized to have logged myself in.

The Kvenland article should be semi-protected forever to block the nuisance of consistently appearing sock puppets. All users contributing sensible material to the article are anyway permanent creatures. Preventing the puppets from appearing on the discussion forum is naturally difficult, but I think all parties involved in the discussions are so aware of the situation already, that nobody is really bothered by Art Dominique's posts any more. --Drieakko 13:20, 2 September 2006 (UTC)

Thank you for your input.

Your suggestion is, in my opinion, not sufficient because if all puppets are prevented, then the user will register an account (think "Art Dominique") and continue his postings.

I want to know, do you think it is rewarding to discuss this user, or should we act to block him indefinately from all Kven-related articles?

Fred-Chess 13:29, 2 September 2006 (UTC)

From my part, it is not needed to have any other actions than semi-protection, perhaps also for Kven and Kven language. I can cope with the situation then without problems. The only thing that annoys me are the sock puppets tampering the article several times a day. Just slowing down the vandalism a bit is needed. --Drieakko 13:36, 2 September 2006 (UTC)

Ok, all three articles have been semi-proctected. Kven had already been protected for five months: 19:13, 5 April 2006 Mikkalai protected Kven.

Fred-Chess 13:53, 2 September 2006 (UTC)

Thanks. --Drieakko 16:00, 2 September 2006 (UTC)

Drieakko, like Fred Chess I was going to propose taking this matter to Arbitration. My concern is that the multiple recent duplicate posts makes relevant discussion in the Talk:Kven impossible. Have you changed your mind after the recent days postings? Labongo 19:30, 4 September 2006 (UTC)

I am afraid that the problematic user in question won't be affected by the arbitration process in any way. He will keep creating new accounts and use new IPs and post his long rants. I think the fact is that we just have to live with him as long as he bothers to be around. --Drieakko 19:38, 4 September 2006 (UTC)

OK. I was hoping that the Arbitration comittee had some "big guns" they could use to block this user for a very long time.Labongo 20:24, 4 September 2006 (UTC)

Of course they have!

The purpose of arbitration is that they can put an injuction, stating that a reincarnation of a user is to be immediately blocked by any admin!

Fred-Chess 15:26, 5 September 2006 (UTC)

This user creates a new puppet for every occasion and abandons it immediately. That is very difficult to tackle. --Drieakko 15:33, 5 September 2006 (UTC)

You have an incorrect view of the arbitration committee and the blocking function on Misplaced Pages. On blocks, account creations is also blocked, at least from this IP (not sure about the details). / Fred-Chess 16:14, 5 September 2006 (UTC)

Arbitration request on Kven-users

Dear Editor, since you have been involved in editing the Kven, Kven language, or Kvens of the past articles in the last months, articles that have been troubled by peristant POV-pushing, your name is listed in the Request for Arbitration on this matter. You can make a statement here: Misplaced Pages:Requests_for_arbitration#Kven-users. Best regards, Fred-Chess 16:14, 5 September 2006 (UTC)

Kven+Ghirlandajo

Since you may no longer have the page on your watchlist, I want to tell you that I have answered Ghirla's query there. Please do not interpret this message as stalking, since I only want to give you the opportunity of answering it, as it might as well have been addressed to you. Have a nice day. --Pan Gerwazy 10:49, 9 September 2006 (UTC)