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The result was No consensus. Kungfu Adam 16:58, 25 January 2007 (UTC)

Rushmore Mall

Rushmore Mall (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) — (View AfD)

Non-notable mall. Contested endorsed prod. Contested by an IP address, which didn't address my concerns, with "malls are notable". I stand by my original justification of "notability not asserted". Akihabara 14:46, 9 January 2007 (UTC)

• Weak delete keep Only 828995 square feet of gross leasable area per , a bit small to be a regional mall. Big enough to be considered a superregional mall, so meets revised WP:MALL No historic or architectural claims to notability., so does not satisfy anything in WP:MALL Meets the proposed guideline for mall notability in area but nothing special otherwise. Edison 16:23, 9 January 2007 (UTC)
• Note: This debate has been included in the list of Malls-related deletions. -- SkierRMH 06:00, 10 January 2007 (UTC)
• Strong keep - Clearly a regional mall. A mall of this size in a metropolitan area no larger than Rapid City is an important building and plays a major role in the history and life of the area. --MatthewUND 07:31, 14 January 2007 (UTC)
  • Then you should be able to point to where that major röle has been documented, in multiple non-trivial published works from independent sources. Other editors are saying that it has not been. You've cited no sources so far. And the article cites no sources. Uncle G 10:07, 18 January 2007 (UTC)
• Delete No evidence of meeting WP:CORP through being the primary subject of multiple independent and reliable published sources. GRBerry 23:08, 14 January 2007 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so that consensus may be reached
 Please add new discussions below this notice. Thanks, ···日本穣 02:12, 18 January 2007 (UTC)

• Delete Fails everything in WP:MALL. Is only half the size normally required. Nothing else noteable about the mall is given. No significant cultural, social and economic impact nor achitecture explained. No sources. Other mall pages have a specific overview table on the left that gives general details (including reasons why it would pass WP Mall such as the floor space). This article doesnt have one because it obviously doesnt satisfy anything.--155.144.251.120 03:20, 18 January 2007 (UTC)
• Delete This just seems like any old mall. The stores there are probably in the majority of malls. Just not notable. Ganfon 03:26, 18 January 2007 (UTC)
• Delete. --Scimitar 16:12, 18 January 2007 (UTC)
• Keep. The mall is a notable business center. No reason not to keep it. --Lee Vonce 17:21, 18 January 2007 (UTC)
• Delete The reason not to keep it is simple -- it fails WP:CORP and WP:MALL. I believe the default stance should be delete until meets notability requirements, not no reason not to keep it. /Blaxthos 18:19, 18 January 2007 (UTC)
• Delete. Non-notable; fails WP:MALL. No evidence of credible third-party coverage. Fairsing 03:28, 21 January 2007 (UTC)
• Keep, as a superregional mall this should be notable and meets WP:MALL guidelines. Yamaguchi先生 00:42, 25 January 2007 (UTC)
• Keep Per MatthewUND and Ymaguchi, it is a superregional mall and meets WP:MALL. --Oakshade 01:08, 25 January 2007 (UTC)
• Keep per Yamaguchi... superregional, passes the proposed WP:MALL... I'd say that qualifies it as a keep.  ALKIVAR™ ☢ 04:31, 25 January 2007 (UTC)

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This Mall Sucks, Thats Why It Shouldn't Be On Misplaced Pages, I Should Know, I Worked In The Roach Infested Rathole For 3 Years. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.230.47.21 (talk) 06:59, 13 August 2010 (UTC)

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The result was delete - by consensus and rebuttal of Kappa's comment. Also JYolowski's comment that it is verifiable and NOR, doen't mean that it passes notability.Blnguyen | BLabberiNg 07:15, 29 September 2006 (UTC)

Park City Center

Non-notable shopping mall that isn't even really a mall: it's a shopping center that is only partially enclosed. (Here's a pic.) Its only claim to fame seems to be that it's the "largest enclosed shopping center in south-central Pennsylvania". I repeat, south-central Pennsylvania. wikipediatrix 21:06, 19 September 2006 (UTC)

• Keep South-central Pennsylvania's got a million people in its own right. Even if it didn't, at over a million square feet, it's still large enough to warrant notability. Nearly every recent mall AFD has closed as keep or no consensus. Kirjtc2 23:07, 19 September 2006 (UTC)

This seems more of a shopping center to me. And I've seen several mall AfDs end in deletion.

• Keep, how are we supposed to make an encylopedia of retail outlets activity in south-central Pennsylvania without covering this? Kappa 00:01, 20 September 2006 (UTC)

Misplaced Pages is WP:NOT a directory of retail outlets. Do you consider all retail outlets in south-central Pennsylvania notable for Misplaced Pages, then? Why? wikipediatrix 01:22, 20 September 2006 (UTC)

Normally, I'd assume that Kappa's comment was a joke, but then, it's Kappa making it. Why in God's name would this be a good idea? --Calton | Talk 02:31, 20 September 2006 (UTC)

All verifiable malls are notable enough to be considered part of the sum of human knowledge and to deserve an encylopedic treatment. I will substitute "outlets" with "activity" since I'm not so bothered about corner shops and 7-11s. Kappa 02:55, 20 September 2006 (UTC)

Really? Why not? If they have verifiable data... JoshuaZ 02:25, 27 September 2006 (UTC)

• Keep, verifiable and not OR. JYolkowski // talk 02:27, 20 September 2006 (UTC) Actually, maybe a merge to Lancaster, Pennsylvania would be good too. JYolkowski // talk 02:28, 20 September 2006 (UTC)
• Delete. Utterly non-notable shopping mall, and this not being the Yellow Pages, no reason to be here. The alleged superlative only indicates that if you draw your boundaries narrowly enough, you can claim nearly anything: "The largest enclosed shopping center in Lancaster County!", "The largest enclosed shopping center in Lancaster, Pennsyvania!", etc. --Calton | Talk 02:31, 20 September 2006 (UTC)
• Delete As a non-notable shopping center. JoshuaZ 03:07, 20 September 2006 (UTC)
• Note: This debate has been included in the list of Malls-related deletions. -- Kappa 04:05, 20 September 2006 (UTC)
• KEEP and do not merge, all retail stores in Lancaster, Pennsylvania are notable and deserve articles. --ForbiddenWord 18:47, 20 September 2006 (UTC)
  • Comment Is that a serious claim? Do you think that any random retail store is notable and deserves an article? JoshuaZ 01:53, 22 September 2006 (UTC)
• Delete. No independent non-promotional coverage to establish that this isn't just another set of four walls and a roof. - A Man In Bl♟ck (conspire | past ops) 01:08, 21 September 2006 (UTC)
• Keep, notable to people from and around Lancaster, Pennsylvania. bbx 01:49, 21 September 2006 (UTC)

  Could you please add references to the article to substantiate this claim? - A Man In Bl♟ck (conspire | past ops) 02:05, 21 September 2006 (UTC)

• Delete Malls are in the business of renting space to retail outlets. That makes WP:CORP the applicable standard. No assertion or evidence of meeting WP:CORP through coverage about the mall in independent reliable sources. GRBerry 12:39, 21 September 2006 (UTC)
  • ... Kappa 12:46, 21 September 2006 (UTC)
• Delete. Yet another shopping center that is so lacking in notability that we will never have credible, third-party sources to verify the information here. --Satori Son 00:26, 22 September 2006 (UTC)
• Delete. Article provides no claims of notability. — pd_THOR | 01:49, 22 September 2006 (UTC)
• Keep. Like usual, User:Kappa makes an excellent case for inclusion. Clearly just a stub at this point, but that is no reason to delete an article on a local retail center with potential interest for encyclopedia readers. --JJay 03:17, 22 September 2006 (UTC)
• Delete Malls are not generally notable, or are we soon going to do articles on every friggin mall, store, etc on the planet. •Jim62sch• 12:48, 22 September 2006 (UTC)
• Delete per nom. Arbusto 02:26, 24 September 2006 (UTC)
• Delete as a failure of the criteria of any morphing of WP:CORP.--Gay Cdn (talk) (email) (Contr.) 21:18, 25 September 2006 (UTC)
• Delete per WP:CORP. And at the risk of being redundant: my cornerstore currently sells cigarettes and is open until midnight. That is well-known information to people in my neighborhood. How will we ever document cornerstores in Quebec City if we don't include that cornerstore? Pascal.Tesson 04:48, 26 September 2006 (UTC)

  I don't think anyone will feel betrayed if you don't document cornerstores in Quebec City. Kappa 04:52, 26 September 2006 (UTC)

  Then why have articles about semi-enclosed shopping centers with no apparent third-party coverage or analysis? - A Man In Bl♟ck (conspire | past ops) 04:56, 26 September 2006 (UTC)

• Delete per nom. Naconkantari 22:14, 26 September 2006 (UTC)
• Delete per nomination... local shopping center with no credible claim of notability.--Isotope23 15:19, 27 September 2006 (UTC)

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The result was merge and redirect to Greenhills Shopping Center. Can't sleep, clown will eat me 20:45, 27 September 2006 (UTC)

V-Mall

non-notable shopping center. Nekohakase 18:18, 19 September 2006 (UTC)

• Comment: The article as it currently exists doesn't add anything of value, and reads like advertising. This might potentially be salvaged if some kind soul went through, cut out all the trivial details about individual stores, and re-focused the article on the major software piracy ring that was based there (as described in this link, among other places). Even then, it'd be borderline, though. -Hit bull, win steak 18:36, 19 September 2006 (UTC)
• Merge (partially) into Greenhills Shopping Center. Kappa 23:54, 19 September 2006 (UTC)
• Note: This debate has been included in the list of Philippines-related deletions. -- Kappa 01:18, 20 September 2006 (UTC)"

*Delete as a non-notable mall. Malls are almost inherently non-notable and nothing here is at all a claim to notability. JoshuaZ 03:08, 20 September 2006 (UTC) Smerge Since there is a logical target article. I'd rather not have it either but we might as well stick this there for now. JoshuaZ 23:34, 25 September 2006 (UTC)

• Note: This debate has been included in the list of Malls-related deletions. -- Kappa 04:04, 20 September 2006 (UTC)

• Merge (partially) and redirect to Greenhills Shopping Center per Kappa. Silensor 02:09, 21 September 2006 (UTC)
• So this isn't an entire mall, it is a piece of a mall, which also has its own article (rightly or wrongly). Smerge to the real mall per Kappa. GRBerry 12:22, 21 September 2006 (UTC)
• Merge and redirect --Peta 04:15, 27 September 2006 (UTC)
• Merge to Greenhills Shopping Center per Kappa, Tewfik 20:08, 27 September 2006 (UTC)

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