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Why is RedFlag News listed as a fake news site?

RedFlag News is a news aggregate site that aggregates from both mainstream media sites and "alternative" conservative websites. However, the "alternative" conservative news sites it pulls from all source their content from mainstream media. Aside from one article from a left-wing author (an author whom RedFlag News has aggregated stories from), what evidence is there it is "fake news"? You can visit the website on any day and see stories posted from AP, Reuters, The Washington Post...

2601:680:C202:6B40:5D77:FDF:FBD2:17D7 (talk) 04:12, 27 April 2017 (UTC)

We list Red Flag as a fake news website because U.S. News and World Report describes it as a fake news website. Please see our policies on verifiability and original research. --Dr. Fleischman (talk) 19:10, 27 April 2017 (UTC)
Oh. So if a site on your list of “reliable” sites lies about another site, we go with the liar, eh? 2604:2000:9046:800:8D46:F708:7191:DF4C (talk) 23:12, 6 May 2017 (UTC)
No. --Dr. Fleischman (talk) 06:31, 7 May 2017 (UTC)

InfoWars is fake news?

Really? Are we absolutely sure InfoWars is a fake news website, or is this just some liberals trying to censor opinion. please give sources on InfoWars being fake news. 79.73.254.175 (talk) 11:55, 1 May 2017 (UTC)

There are already citations in the article to support the statement that InfoWars is fake news. Do you require something more? ValarianB (talk) 12:04, 1 May 2017 (UTC)
Yes.
Also, hell yes. ᛗᛁᛟᛚᚾᛁᚱPants Tell me all about it. 14:36, 1 May 2017 (UTC)

Info Wars is not a fake news site, the citations listed have already been proven to not be fake. Also the Sandy Hook School shooting was not reported on by Info Wars as being a hoax, but he did mention that there are rumors that it was a hoax. All other citations can be proven real. If proof is required I am willing to provide. Escape49 (talk) 02:05, 16 May 2017 (UTC)

There are 10 sources that show that InfoWars is a fake news site. It really doesn't matter what you are "willing to provide". It isn't being removed. --Majora (talk) 02:46, 16 May 2017 (UTC)

Ok looks like the article on here about NEUTRALITY is not something your looking for. Escape49 (talk) 04:20, 16 May 2017 (UTC)

I can see why Misplaced Pages can't be used as a source for reports. Globalist ran. Infowars is not fake news and the fact you don't have occupy democrats on here or The Young Turks shows how biased this site is. Escape49 (talk) 04:28, 16 May 2017 (UTC)

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nbc.com.co This is a fake version of NBC.com and NBC News 198.52.13.15 (talk) 11:10, 6 May 2017 (UTC)

Done. Thanks for pointing out this notable omission. Adrian J. Hunter 13:52, 12 May 2017 (UTC)

References

  1. http://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/tall-tale-or-satire-authors-so-called-fake-news-feel-n689421

Why is this page pro-democrat?

It seems like a lot of the listings are republican-based (whether true or not). The sources cited are just basically nonsense cited in the name of citing sources (the source itself is fake). Can we please have an unbiased wiki? There seems to be a lot of Democrats or something trying to use this to push their fake news narrative. I don't see CNN on there even though there are numerous occasions where they blatantly published fake news. What a joke lol. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.234.225.203 (talk) 00:53, 15 May 2017 (UTC)

Please review our verifiability and neutrality policies. All we can do is report what the reliable sources say. If the reliable sources identify more "republican-based" sites as fake news websites than other sites, then that is what our list must reflect. As an aside, there has been plenty of independent reporting on why so many "republican-based" sites have been identified as fake news. --Dr. Fleischman (talk) 18:38, 15 May 2017 (UTC)
Dr. Fleischman, are you implying that the ref to adrforum.com is anything other than a primary source, or that the refs to leadstories.com and business2community.com are to "reliable, third-party, published sources with a reputation for fact-checking and accuracy"? I suggest trimming out the clearly unreliable sources, and then seeing whether there is a republican or democrat bias in what remains. For the record, I am completely apolitical, because I am convinced that the ability of politicians and political parties to deceive us is far superior to our ability to detect deception. In other words, I don't trust any of them. --Guy Macon (talk) 04:39, 16 May 2017 (UTC)
No, I wasn't implying that in the slightest. And it's rather off-topic. --Dr. Fleischman (talk) 06:22, 16 May 2017 (UTC)
That would be fine if the "reliable sources" didn't include fake news sites.47.137.191.83 (talk) 03:38, 16 May 2017 (UTC)
You may need a "cleaning of the house" a lot of your admins or a few are clearly biased and don't seem to do their own research. Like InfoWars. If it's so fake how do they have a bigger viewership then all the other news outlets? Escape49 (talk) 04:31, 16 May 2017 (UTC)
Eat at Joes! 100,000 flies and roaches can't be wrong!! Infowars told us that the Sandy Hook Elementary School shooting was a hoax that involved child actors, that Obama secretly runs ISIS and brought Ebola to the US, that the the Moon landing was a hoax, that Lady Gaga's Super Bowl Halftime Show was actually her saying "'I am the goddess of Satan,' ruling over them with the rise of the robots in a ritual of lesser magic", that the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation was set up as a eugenics trust with "the expressed mission of creating a world-wide race-based system and funded Adolf Hitler", that the United States Air Force used electromagnetic waves to create Hurricane Sandy, that Hillary Clinton is running a child sex ring out of a pizza restaurant, and that Charlie Sheen never did any drugs. --Guy Macon (talk) 05:05, 16 May 2017 (UTC)
You're apparently confusing quantity with quality. To answer your question, perhaps it's because they've successfully hoodwinked a relatively large proportion of the 20% or so of the population that is susceptible to believing unverifiable bullshit, while the remainder of the population shares the love among dozens of demonstrably reliable sources. RivertorchWATER 14:22, 16 May 2017 (UTC)
Not just unverifiable. Verifiably false, and in many cases made up out of thin air. --Dr. Fleischman (talk) 16:21, 16 May 2017 (UTC)
Rivertorch and Guy Macon you two have forgotten something: Infowars does not have a "bigger viewership" than "all other news outlets". Not even close. They don't even meet WP's notability requirements for an independent article. The only claim to fame it has is among the conspiracy-minded, hardcore right-wing. Hell, the Young Turks have better youtube viewership numbers than Infowars. ᛗᛁᛟᛚᚾᛁᚱPants Tell me all about it. 15:21, 16 May 2017 (UTC)
With the last user citing "conspiracy minded, hardcore right-wing", I think it is safe to say that this page is Democrat biased. Heck, the conspiracy minded, hardcore left-wing thinks that Russia hacked the election and that Comey being fired is another Watergate - and fake news outlets like The New York Times, Washington Post, and CNN report the nonsense. If Misplaced Pages relies on them, that makes Misplaced Pages fake news as well. 47.137.191.83 (talk) 16:39, 16 May 2017 (UTC)

Add CNN to the list

CNN has repeatedly published fake news, and this has been noted many times by plenty of legitimate sources.

CNN falsely quoted Trump as advocating "racial profiling":

http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/presidential-races/296753-cnn-falsely-adds-racial-to-trump-vetting-comments

CNN falsely accused one of its affiliates of airing pornography:

http://www.snopes.com/cnn-half-hour-porn/

CNN falsely accused Richard Spencer of questioning if Jews are people:

http://www.snopes.com/2016/11/22/controversial-cnn-chyron/

Since CNN is one of the most well known fake news organizations in America, it ahould be included on the list. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2602:306:C583:2370:5114:6C3C:E885:3FBD (talk) 08:07, 16 May 2017 (UTC)

This article describes fake news sites as those which "intentionally publish hoaxes and disinformation for purposes other than news satire." All you've shown is that CNN is not inerrant – which could be said about any information source of any kind, ever. Adrian J. Hunter 12:24, 16 May 2017 (UTC)
The first link is a blog entry whose premise is rested upon the assumption that the reader has never heard of things like paraphrasing, reading between the lines, etc. Indeed, CNN regularly accused Trump of advocating for racial profiling (such as ) because Trump, well, advocated for racial profiling. Incendiary headlines != fake news.
The second link just doesn't say what you think it says. It would behoove you to actually read these things.
The third is just laughable. During an interview with a self-proclaimed antisemite (whom the world seems to agree needs to be punched in the face more often) and white nationalist, a single chyron writer added an overly opinionated statement. The issue is, Spencer is aa self-admitted sntisemite and white nationalist. Whether or not he doubts the personhood of Jews is a very real question, with the best answer right now being "almost certainly". The problem wasn't the claim itself, it was the overtly political nature of claiming it during a live interview. ᛗᛁᛟᛚᚾᛁᚱPants Tell me all about it. 13:05, 16 May 2017 (UTC)
What is wrong with being a white nationalist? Do you have a problem with Jewish nationalists, and if you do, wouldn't that make you an anti-Semite? If you are then against white nationalists, doesn't that make you anti-white, and thus racist? 47.137.191.83 (talk) 16:48, 16 May 2017 (UTC)

GotNews

Is there enough sourcing to support a listing for Chuck Johnson's GotNews? Mother Jones The Rise and Fall of Twitter's Most Infamous Right-Wing Troll, Forbes A Troll Outside Trump Tower Is Helping To Pick Your Next Government, and Salon Trump digs himself deeper: Given his love of fake news, the “tapes” are probably fake, too characterize the website as being fake, false, and misleading. ValarianB (talk) 14:03, 16 May 2017 (UTC)

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