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Regine Velasquez

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Nominator(s): Pseud 14 (talk) 08:42, 16 January 2018 (UTC)

This article is about a Filipino singer and actress who had achieved success in other Asian countries. I've been working on the article and expanded it, with most of the heavy work done between November to December of last year, at which time it received a peer review. I feel ready to give this a shot at FAC. All suggestions for improvement are welcome. Pseud 14 (talk) 08:42, 16 January 2018 (UTC)

Media review

  • File:Intramurosjf0305_17.JPG: since the Philippines does not have freedom of panorama, this needs to include an explicit licensing tag for the architectural work
Agreed. Removed image from the article. --Pseud 14 (talk) 16:46, 16 January 2018 (UTC)
  • File:Regine_Velasquez_-_Sana_Maulit_Muli.ogg: what is the length of the original song? Same with File:Written_In_The_Sand_-_Regine_Velasquez.ogg, File:In_Love_With_You_-_Regine_Velasquez.ogg, File:Fly_-_Regine_Velasquez.ogg, File:Emotion_-_Regine_Velasquez.ogg
Done. --Pseud 14 (talk) 16:46, 16 January 2018 (UTC)
Given the length of File:In_Love_With_You_-_Regine_Velasquez.ogg, the sample is longer than 10%. Nikkimaria (talk) 17:13, 16 January 2018 (UTC)
Nikkimaria, My bad, the song length is in fact 4:23 as sourced. Do let me know if this meets criteria. --Pseud 14 (talk) 17:23, 16 January 2018 (UTC)
Unfortunately it would still be longer than 10%. Nikkimaria (talk) 17:24, 16 January 2018 (UTC)
Nikkimaria, In that case, I have removed the sample. Thanks for confirming. The fewer the better. --Pseud 14 (talk) 17:36, 16 January 2018 (UTC)
Nikkimaria, Fair point. Got rid of the 3, I kept "File:Regine_Velasquez_-_Sana_Maulit_Muli.ogg" for the music career subsection where the song is tackled and "File:Fly_-_Regine_Velasquez.ogg" under Musical style just to illustrate variety in genre under this context. --Pseud 14 (talk) 16:46, 16 January 2018 (UTC)

Support per my detailed review at PR here. I have made some copy-edits here and there. These are my edits. Good work. FrB.TG (talk) 22:16, 17 January 2018 (UTC)

FrB.TG, thank you for your thorough review and input at PR. Much appreciate your support. --Pseud 14 (talk) 04:46, 18 January 2018 (UTC)

Support per my comments at the peer review, here. Nice work.--Wehwalt (talk) 18:23, 18 January 2018 (UTC)

Wehwalt, Thanks for your valuable input at PR and for your support --Pseud 14 (talk) 18:26, 19 January 2018 (UTC)
  • "music licensing" I might say "licensing writes".
  • Done, you might probably be referring to licensing rights.
  • "One month before the album's release, "Forevermore", the record's lead single, debuted in August 2004." I would put the parts of this sentence in some other order, possibly, "Forevermore", the record's lead single, debuted in August 2004, one month before the album's release."
  • Done
  • "In 2005, Velasquez continued her television work as presenter for three seasons on another talent show," if it's three seasons, wouldn't it be more than just 2005?
  • Fixed, since the original season premiered in 2005 anyway, I took out "three seasons" to avoid confusion.
  • "The album, partly mixed with 1980s and 1990s influence," I don't know what you mean by "partly mixed". Is this a reference to sound mixing or something else?
  • Reworded. Was referring to "influenced by 1980s and 1990s sound"
  • "She appeared in Songbird, a weekly late night musical television program that aired on GMA Network Inc, where she was the main act and featured performances by a musical guest." probably needs "which" before "featured".
  • Done
  • "Velasquez did not fail to make up for the initial staging of the show." I might sub "cancellation" for "staging".
  • Done
  • "She was featured on Gloc-9's single "Takip Salim" and in Vice Ganda's "Push Mo Yan Teh"." I might say "as backup vocalist" or whatever she was.
  • Clarified as "featured artist"
  • " the performance earned Velasquez a FAMAS and FAP Award nomination for Best Actress."I think you'll need to ditch the "a" and pluralise " Award".
  • Done
  • "the comedy series Ako Si Kim Sam Soon, an adaption of the South Korean television series." series ... series. I'd find a synonym for one of them.
  • Went with "television show" instead to avoid "series" being overused.
  • "She dropped out after the 45th episode following her pregnancy and was replaced by Iza Calzado." I would enclose "following her pregnancy" because it is ambiguous otherwise.
  • Done
  • "One of Velasquez's earliest musical memories was listening to her father, Gerardo Velasquez, sing lullabies to put her to sleep. As a child she enjoyed hearing classic songs. She would wait for her father's return from work and ask him to sing her the "old songs" he knew until she fell asleep. She was drawn to traditional songs instead of nursery rhymes because of this routine." Since you mention a good part of this early in the biographical section, I would consider shortening it a bit, especially where there is duplication.
  • Trimmed. Removed duplicate sentences covered in the 'Early life' section.
Will finish within the next couple of days. Sorry about the delay.--Wehwalt (talk) 00:07, 23 January 2018 (UTC)
Wehwalt, thank you. I have done these things as per my comments. --Pseud 14 (talk) 12:27, 23 January 2018 (UTC)
Just a few more.
  • "Velasquez is often regarded as one of Filipino music's most influential voices." wouldn't this be better under "Legacy"? I would suggest calling that section "Influence" btw. She's a bit young for a legacy.
  • Done for both. Changed to "Influence"
  • "On August 8, 2010, the couple announced their engagement, and in December 2010 the couple married in Nasugbu, Batangas. " I might cut the year repeat.
  • Done
  • Done. Did not use serial comma(s) in this article. This should be consistent now.
Wehwalt, thank you for your additional comments. They have all been addressed. --Pseud 14 (talk) 09:05, 27 January 2018 (UTC)

Comments from Ceranthor

As promised, I'll do my best to post some comments within the next few days. ceranthor 23:13, 18 January 2018 (UTC)

  • "She attended pre-school and elementary at the Central School of Hinundayan. " - think this should be elementary school; think you're missing a word
Fixed
  • "Despite the attempt to launch her music career, the single was commercially unsuccessful." - why despite? I'd just nix the first half of the sentence here
Done
  • "While she was rehearsing for the live show, the producer and talent manager, Ronnie Henares showed interest and signed her." - No comma needed after manager
Done
  • Careful with the serial comma; it looks like you mostly avoid using it, so stay consistent throughout
Fixed for consistency in the article
  • "marketing her as representing East Asian popular music because of its financial success." - this is clunky; reword
Reworded
  • " Velasquez appeared as host with Ogie Alcasid on the television program " - needs a "the"; also wouldn't this make her a co-host rather than just a host?
You're right, she is a co-host. Fixed
  • "To coincide with the film's theatrical run, "You Are My Song", was released as the soundtrack's lead single." - don't think the commas are necessary
Done
  • "Velasquez continued to play the lead in 1998, the comedy fantasy film Honey Nasa Langit Na Ba Ako as Janno Gibbs' fiancé, and the romantic comedy Dahil May Isang Ikaw with Aga Muhlach." - missing a word after 1998... maybe appearing?
Added
  • "Her first television lead role came in 2000 in an episode of the IBC-13's weekly drama series Habang May Buhay, playing Piolo Pascual's cancer-stricken love interest." - this seems disjointed as its own paragraph
Fixed. Included as part of the second paragraph
  • "Velasquez also voiced the animated film Urduja (2008)" - voiced the entire film, or voiced a character?
Voiced the 'eponymous character'. Fixed
  • "Velasquez is often regarded as one of Filipino music's most influential voices and for her use of vocal belting." - Think this should be reworded so that there's not a split between "regarded as one of..." and regarded "for her..."
Reworded, moved the latter (vocal belting) to the second sentence for flow.
  • "described her "legitimacy" as "enough to secure a space in pop culture," and her musical career that "continues to influence generations of OPM patrons and songbird wannabes up to this day,"" - Think you're missing words before "and her musical career"
Reworded
  • WP:NBSPs need a bit of cleanup in the article.
Done as per these series of edits

Overall, this is very well-written and engaging. Excellent work. Support, once my comments are addressed. ceranthor 22:29, 20 January 2018 (UTC)

Ceranthor, thank you for your comments and edits. I have addressed those accordingly. --Pseud 14 (talk) 12:08, 21 January 2018 (UTC)

Comments from SchroCat

  • 'Regine' should be as "Regine'"
    • Done
  • 'AllMusic's David Gonzales praised it as "an even better album", but criticized the record for being very similar to the formula used on Listen Without Prejudice." ' There's an extra " at the end from somewhere
    • Fixed
  • There are a lot of breaches in WP:LQ: I fixed some, but it's best to go through and check the rest
  • "The album sold more than 120,000 copies": the subject of the previous sentence is Survivor, so best put "Drawn sold more than..."
    • Done
  • New Strait Times should be New Straits Times
    • Fixed
  • You use a mix of emdashes and endashes, which should be made consistent
    • Fixed for consistency. I used the html code just to be certain.

Done to the start of "2013–present": more to follow. - SchroCat (talk) 23:05, 25 January 2018 (UTC)

SchroCat, thank you for your comments and edits. I have done those things. Look forward to rest of your review. --Pseud 14 (talk) 09:05, 27 January 2018 (UTC)
  • No, no more to follow: I made a couple of tweaks to some WP:LQ slips you'd missed, but the rest is all good.

Coord notes

  • Unless I missed it we'll need someone to perform a source review for formatting and reliability.
  • Also, Pseud 14, if I'm right in gathering that this will be your first FA if successful, we'll need a spotcheck of sources for accurate use and avoidance of plagiarism or close paraphrasing (a hoop through which we ask all first-timers to jump).

Both the above can be requested at the top of WT:FAC, unless any of the current reviewers would like to undertake. Cheers, Ian Rose (talk) 06:10, 31 January 2018 (UTC)

Ian Rose, thank you for your note. Would very much look forward to a review of the sources. I did put it up at the WT:FAC for a source review request. Cheers! --Pseud 14 (talk) 06:18, 31 January 2018 (UTC)
Sorry, I missed that -- tks, I've added the spotcheck request myself. Cheers, Ian Rose (talk) 06:21, 31 January 2018 (UTC)
Thanks Ian Rose, much appreciated. Cheers! --Pseud 14 (talk) 06:25, 31 January 2018 (UTC)

Comments from Aoba47

  • For this part “In the first of these she”, please add a comma between “these” and “she”.
  • Done
  • A clarification question for this part (In the first of these she appeared in a featured episode portraying a mentally challenged woman). Does she play the mentally challenged woman in the episode? If so I would rephrase it to the following “she appeared as a mentally challenged woman in a featured episode”, as I originally read the current wording as the episode portraying (i.e. featuring) this type of character.
  • You're right she does. I reworded as suggested. Thanks!
  • For this part (At age four Velasquez), I believe a comma is necessary between “four” and “Velasquez”.
  • Done
  • For this part (particularly in music), I do not think the “in” is necessary.
  • Done
  • For this part (Under Henares' management Velasquez), I believe a comma is necessary after “management”.
  • Done
  • For this part (AllMusic called the album), I would cite the reviewer in the prose.
  • Done
  • For this part (Critical reception of the show was generally enthusiastic with music critics complimenting), I would revise it to avoid the “with” + “-ing” verb construction as I think that is discouraged for FAs.
  • Reworded
  • For this part (Allmusic's David Gonzales heralded), it should be “AllMusic”.
  • Fixed
  • For this part (and performed alongside Mandy Moore to promote the theatrical release of the latter's film), could you identify what song they performed together?
  • Song title added ("Cry")
  • Is divadevotee.com really a reliable source? I do not think so, but I would be more than happy to hear your opinion and be convinced otherwise.
  • I believe you're right so I removed any usage of that source and reworded the structure of the lead sentence.
  • For this (Allmusic described her timbre), it should be “AllMusic”.
  • Done
  • Philippine Daily Inquirer is linked a few times in the article.
  • Unlinked.
  • For this part (Referred to as Asia's songbird,), please clarify who refers to her as this. Is it critics, fans, the singer herself?
  • Clarified (by critics)

Wonderful work with this article. It was very informative as I have never heard of this individual prior to reading it. I will definitely have to check out her music, as her style seems to perfectly fit with my personal taste in music. Once my comments are addressed, I will be more than happy to support this for promotion. Hats off to you for handling all of this work! I would greatly appreciate it if you could provide some comments on my current FAC (Misplaced Pages:Featured article candidates/All Souls (TV series)/archive1) if possible. Either way, I hope you are having a wonderful week so far! Aoba47 (talk) 03:21, 5 February 2018 (UTC)

Aoba47, thanks for your time in reviewing. I have addressed the above as mentioned in my comments. I'm delighted that you found interest in her music, I'm pretty sure you'll enjoy it. I'd be more than happy to have a look at your FAC too. You have a wonderful week likewise. Cheers! --Pseud 14 (talk) 06:14, 5 February 2018 (UTC)
Aoba47 much appreciate your support. Cheers! --Pseud 14 (talk) 12:43, 5 February 2018 (UTC)

Oppose Source review Lingzhi

  • I'm running the links checker... all links look good.
  • since you are presumably familiar with all these links, you can help out proactively by finding those that point to sources written in Tagalog (for example, this one)and adding |language=. If you translated any of the titles into English, the title should be left as the original Tagalog, and you should add the English translation as |trans-title=.
  • Fixed
  • What makes oocities reliable? and tripod ?
the tripod links to an archive article indicating the newspaper it was taken from (PDI = Philippine Daily Inqquirer, as such I referenced the source newspaper and the date of publication. I have removed the oocities link.
  • "Video clip > Velasquez on pursuing an international career" is translated very sparsely; therefore, How reliable is this source for information? Where is she speaking, and when? Lingzhi ♦ (talk) 14:49, 8 February 2018 (UTC)
This was from a bloggers/moderators conference for her website in December 2009 in Quezon City. And this was the only instance where the topic was discussed and no publication or other interview is available. I only enclosed portions of interview into writing as not everything has been translated. Let me know if additional details would be needed

While establishing her career in music, Velasquez ventured into film with a lead role in Wanted Perfect Mother in 1996. Given its positive public reception, she continued to garner female leads in romantic comedies such as Kailangan Ko'y Ikaw (2000) and Pangako Ikaw Lang (2001) -- the latter was the highest-grossing film of 2001. She also had success in television with the shows Maalaala Mo Kaya (2002), Forever in My Heart (2004), Diva (2010), and Poor Señorita (2016).

This wp article has:

Velasquez ventured into film with a lead role in Wanted Perfect Mother (1996). She continued to play female lead roles in romantic comedy films — including Kailangan Ko'y Ikaw (2000) and Pangako Ikaw Lang (2001), with the latter being the highest-grossing Filipino film in 2001. She has also been successful in television with the shows Maalaala Mo Kaya (2002), Forever In My Heart (2004), Diva (2010) and Poor Señorita (2016).

Apple Itunes has:

In 2002, Reigne earned Velasquez an MTV Asia Award nomination. She eventually won its inaugural award for Favorite Artist: Philippines. That same year, she hosted the first season of the Philippines' own version of the British talent show Star for a Night. Velasquez's own TV special, One Night with Regine, was a fund-raiser for social welfare organization and won Best Musical Program at the seventh Asian Television Awards. In 2004 and 2006, she reverted to her earlier style of delivering her own versions of songs by other artists on Covers, Vol. 1 and Covers, Vol. 2. In 2008, Velasquez signed a recording contract with Universal. Low Key, her label debut, was released in November.

...compare with wp:

In 2002, Reigne earned Velasquez a MTV Asia Award nomination. She won the inaugural award for Favorite Artist Philippines and performed "Cry" alongside Mandy Moore to promote the theatrical release of the latter's film, A Walk to Remember (2002). In that same year, Velasquez hosted the first season of Star for a Night, a format based on the British talent show of the same name. ... On April 26, 2002, Velasquez headlined One Night with Regine at the National Museum of the Philippines. The show was a fundraiser in partnership with the Bantay Bata Foundation, a social welfare organization of media conglomerate ABS-CBN. ... Later that year, One Night with Regine won Best Musical Program at the 7th Asian Television Awards.

 Lingzhi ♦ (talk) 16:23, 8 February 2018 (UTC)

Lingzhi, thank you for your review. As per results of your copyvio tool, these aren't paraphrases and were written during the time that I was working on the article late November-December 2017. I was also surprised that these appeared in both Itunes and AllMusic. So on the above mentioned, I am confident that the wp version came before what appeared in Allmusic and Itunes. Other than mentioned I only have a copy kept in my drive on the structure while I was doing it. For certainty, that's my only means of proof that the WP version came before the AllMusic and Itunes article and was not paraphrased into the WP version. This was how the lead section looked at the time when I revised it and changes were made during the time when the article was peer reviewed. Do let me know if there's anything needed to clarify. Cheers! --Pseud 14 (talk) 18:05, 8 February 2018 (UTC)