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Ditch Davey
Would someone from WP:AUTV mind taking a look at Ditch Davey and assessing it? Two IPs (most likely the same person) have recently removed some of the content possibly related to Davey's real name, etc., but I reverted them since the edits basically left the article without a lead sentence. It's quite possible that "Kristian Lind " is not his real name (IMDb lists his birth name as Kristian Davey) and all of the sources found online seem to refer to him as Ditch Davey; so, perhaps all of the other name stuff should be removed unless it can be properly sourced. FWIW, the "Kristian Davey" stuff was added by another IP but no supporting sources were provided. -- Marchjuly (talk) 10:28, 11 October 2017 (UTC)
- Only reliable info I can find re his name is from a 2002 Herald Sun article:
ANYONE expecting a Tinseltown-style story about how Ditch Davey got his unlikely name is bound to be disappointed.
The 26-year-old Blue Heelers star blames an older sister for the moniker change.
"When I was born, my sister, who was two, was tongue-tied at the time and couldn't say Kristian. She used to say Ditchin."
The name stuck, and Davey added Ditch to his name by deed poll when he turned 18.
— Cheryl Critchley, "Wrong side of the law." Herald Sun (22 January 2002) p. 104.
- Couldn't find anything linking him to the surname Lind. Seeing as it appears he has legally changed his name, it'd probably be best to begin the lede with 'Ditch Davey (born Kristian Davey) or (born Kristian)'. —Kb.au (talk) 14:35, 11 October 2017 (UTC)
- Thanks for checking on this Kb.au. Removing any mention of the birthname might be the best thing to do. The IPs were also changing his wife's name from Dunn to Davey, but reliable sources continue to refer to her using her maiden name after the two eere married, so not sure if that should be changed. -- Marchjuly (talk) 21:47, 11 October 2017 (UTC)
Updating the Behind the News article
Hello, I work at Behind the News and the show' 50th anniversary is next year. As part of this process we've done some original research (talking to past producers) and have a wealth of information we can provide. How do I go about updating the page in a legitimate way? My thinking was to pair up with a wikipedian who is able to look over a Google Doc we will write? Daniel Mee 04:15, 12 December 2017 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Danielmee (talk • contribs)
- Hi Danielmee. I'm not really a member of this WikiProject, but I'll just leave a few general comments. I am going to write this as if you're a total newbie, even though you're probably not. So, you may know most of this already.
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- Finally, the last thing you need to be aware of is Misplaced Pages:No original research. Article content is really only supposed to reflect what can be verified through citations to reliable sources. They sources are generally preferred to be independent and secondary, and are required to be published. Basically, Misplaced Pages is not too interested in what the subject of an article has to say about itself, but rather is interested in what others might be saying about it. A "reliable source" has a specific meaning with respect to Misplaced Pages, so even though you might considered these past producers to be quite reliable individuals, they probably don't qualify as a reliable source for Misplaced Pages purposes. Also, not everything which may be true and even verifiable by a citing a reliable sources needs to be mentioned in an article; so, sometimes a bit of editorial discretion might be needed to focus only the really encyclopedically relevant points.
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- Thanks heaps @Marchjuly: for your help. @Cyphoidbomb: just recently clarified your first point to me over on my talk page which was great; point two I did know and I didn't know about point three. This is going to be hard as no one seems to be talking about BTN except the ABC despite being the third longest running TV show in Oz! I have sent a message to NLA though to see if they can help us... not sure if there are any other ways to get "published"...? Thanks heaps for your help! Daniel Mee 15:17, 13 December 2017 (UTC)
- That's not to say a well researched piece of published material by the ABC on the history of BTN wouldn't qualify as a reliable source. It likely would to some degree or another depending on the depth of the research and analysis and the context of the publication (see WP:PRIMARY). I think the bigger point in relation to your original question is that research musn't be original – ie. it needs to be published first. Original research by the ABC/BTN which is subsequently published would no longer be original research for WP:NOR purposes because there would be a source for that info. Whether the source is reliable or not is, however, another question. Kb.au (talk) 16:07, 13 December 2017 (UTC)
- Thanks heaps @Marchjuly: for your help. @Cyphoidbomb: just recently clarified your first point to me over on my talk page which was great; point two I did know and I didn't know about point three. This is going to be hard as no one seems to be talking about BTN except the ABC despite being the third longest running TV show in Oz! I have sent a message to NLA though to see if they can help us... not sure if there are any other ways to get "published"...? Thanks heaps for your help! Daniel Mee 15:17, 13 December 2017 (UTC)
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