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Ophelia Benson

she is not notable; i think it is enough. --Babel2000 15:04, 28 October 2006 (UTC)

• Speedy Keep, unexplained nomination from account established only to nominate this article for deletion. Ban the nominator for disruption, not that he/she will ever be heard from again. VivianDarkbloom 19:01, 28 October 2006 (UTC)

• Comment Isn't this an ad hominem argument? Dar-Ape 19:45, 28 October 2006 (UTC)

No. Did you miss "unexplained"? Why don't you make comments like this in response to SPA support comments? Creating a sockpuppet account for the purpose of a single discussion is often a sign of vandalism in progress. VivianDarkbloom 19:52, 28 October 2006 (UTC)

Truthfully, creating a sockpuppet account for the single purpose of a running some sort of crusade is often a sign of trying to disrupt Misplaced Pages to make a point without personal consequence. --Calton | Talk 01:43, 30 October 2006 (UTC)

"Truthful" is a word that descrives little of your collective commentary, and none of it here. I've described the situation that led me to use this ID, publicly, and I sent you an email desribing it privately. Youre responses have been disgusting and dishonest. And anybody who's working hand in sock with User:Mattisse has any business complaining about nonabusive, open use of multiple accounts. VivianDarkbloom 20:47, 31 October 2006 (UTC)

• Delete. An editor of a website w/o article here, no indication of notability unless posting 1 - 3 blogs every single day counts. Pavel Vozenilek 21:05, 28 October 2006 (UTC)
• Delete — no assertion of notability (since merely being an editor of a Web site does not confer notability, hallelujah), and censure VivianDarkbloom for her call to ban the nominator ➥the Epopt 21:12, 28 October 2006 (UTC)
• Delete, nonnotable blogger. And what was unexplained about the nom? It says "she is not notable." Inelegant, but adequate. NawlinWiki 21:35, 28 October 2006 (UTC)
• Delete. And apparently, VivianDarkbloom is a backup account established to vote for adminships and deletions under a different name. Whatever that's about. Auto movil 21:48, 28 October 2006 (UTC)
• Delete per above. --Kf4bdy 02:50, 29 October 2006 (UTC)
• Delete per original notability concern and NawlinWiki. Dar-Ape 17:30, 29 October 2006 (UTC)
• Delete. Not a sign of notability or evidence that the world has taken note of this person; probably speediable, even. And censure VivianDarkbloom for trying to disrupt Misplaced Pages to make a point with his misplaced (to be charitable) call for a ban of the nominator. --Calton | Talk 01:43, 30 October 2006 (UTC)

Comment. Gosh, thanks for all those well-thought-out, carefully checked commets. In the future, to improve the level of your contributions to Misplaced Pages, might I suggest you improve your practices in two areas. First, you should actually read the article you are commenting on, and take note of its contents. Second, you should consider the claims made in the article against the relevant notability criteria, even, as necessary, checking the references and external links provided for the article..
Ophelia Benson is a well-known published author, not merely a blogger (although she is probably notable as a blogger, too). Her two books are listed by title in the article,even though none of you astute readers noticed that. (Apparently the identification of Benson as an "author" and the listing of the book titles in distinctive type was insufficient to tip off careful and well-informed Misplaced Pages editors like yourselves; perhaps one or two of you may have suggestions on how to improve such descriptions.) Her books meet the notability criteria, having been reviewed and discussed in major media. In fact, Benson is a native of the UK, and both her books have been reviewed/discussed in the TLS, which even Misplaced Pages acknowledges as "one of the world's preeminent critical publications." (The second review appears in the October 20, 2006 issue, and is not yet directly cited online.)
Benson's two books may be only available through such obscure retailers as Amazon.com and Barnes & Noble , and the relevant pages give samples of reviews and indicate the caliber of Benson's audience.
Now I recognize that article deletion is a holy and privileged activity, and that deletion of articles about women whose claims to notability don't involve performances emphasizing, flaunting, or exposing their mammaries is a virtual sacrament which shouldn't be disrupted or contested, however ridiculous or inaccurate the basis, unless the circumstances are really really unusual. But while one of England's "leading cultural critics" is apparently not, by Misplaced Pages editor consensus, as notable as a moderately obese middle-aged woman who films herself having sex with dogs, and the TLS is apparently by the same consensus not a "major" publication with the stature and reputation of Color Climax Anal Sex or Big Fuckin' Tits, or even Juggs, I think she deserves to be included in Misplaced Pages.
I now realize that the excessive literacy and cultural awareness I displayed in recognizing the name of a well-known figure in the British academic-philosophical-literary world is inconsitent with the qualities required of a good Wikipedian, and fully justifies the assumptions of bad faith you have all made. I now know that in-depth knowledge of any subjects outside of pornography, Pokemon, and professional sports can only damage the Wikipedian enterprise, and I will do my best in the future to follow your lead and to contribute only with regard to subjects about which I know nothing, or next to nothing.


Now (dropping the ironic stance) I deserve a public apology from each of the posters whose sloth, carelessness, malice, or incompetence led them to make unfounded, uncivil, derogatory comments about me (and about the entirely blamess Ms Benson). And I deserve a display of abject, public, unqualified self-execration from the ArbCom member who charged to the head of the attack. I expect, of course, nothing but renewed incivility, personal attacks, and evasion of responsibility. VivianDarkbloom 20:32, 31 October 2006 (UTC)

• Delete as per all above. (Ranting about the "incompetence" of editors who disagree with you doesn't exactly help one's case.) wikipediatrix 20:48, 31 October 2006 (UTC)
  • Comment. Better ranting than than lying. Exactly why do you think it's OK to falsely claim that a published author whose books are reviewed in her native UK's most-respect literary journal has never published anything outside of hew own blog, or that there is no "evidence that the world has taken note of this person"? VivianDarkbloom 21:05, 31 October 2006 (UTC)

I don't think you understand how this works. If you have new information about Benson that is properly sourced, put it in the article. In the time it took you to rant and froth and lash out at everyone, you could have been improving the article. I've seen many an article saved from deletion by improving it, but I've never seen one saved by accusing everyone else of "sloth, malice, and incompetence." wikipediatrix 21:16, 31 October 2006 (UTC)