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Just curious about the edit to ThouShaltNot. They seem to fit and be marketed pretty well within goth circles. Thanks. Amber388 20:22, 6 November 2006 (UTC)
Unfounded accusations
You obviously don't know the meanings of vandalism or trolling, or you would not have accused me of them. I deleted your sentence in pop punk because it doesn't really make sense, and it is written as if it is an objective fact, when it is really just your opinion. The whole purpose of that section is to point out that there is a definition of pop pun, that is different from the main definition, and your sentence doesn't seem to add anything useful. I reverted the opening sentence of The Damned article because they are not simply a "rock band". They are specifically a punk rock and goth rock band. And despite your assertion, they have in fact been both at the same time, including when they've toured in the last few years, and when they were in their crossover period. Spylab 17:40, 7 November 2006 (UTC)
Reply to your reply
1) That is already implied in the title and explanation of the the section. Your sentence was redundent and unclearly written. They are not unrelated; the 1970s bands had a huge influence the later bands. Without the 1970s bands there would be no pop punk.
2. I am quite familiar with the Damned's music from all stages of their career, and have seen them live several times. There are times when their music had both punk and goth influences. Their latest album, Grave Disorder is a perfect example of an record that includes both goth and punk influences. Calling them simply a "rock band" serves no purpose, because there are two specific genres that they are associated with. Also, if you check the article, the "goth" link directs to goth rock, so your complaint that goth is not a genre of music is moot. The only reason I took rock off the end of punk and goth is that another editor complained that punk rock/goth rock looked "too messy." As for your claim of "consensus", that is not true. The article said punk rock/goth rock for a very long time, until another editor changed it and you backed him up. That editor has also changed at least one aricle to say a band is simply "rock" when that clearly is not the case. Spylab 19:35, 7 November 2006 (UTC)