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Revision as of 20:47, 22 November 2006 by Serpidon (talk | contribs) (→ArbCom questions for Paul August)(diff) ← Previous revision | Latest revision (diff) | Newer revision → (diff)In English please You are very welcome to post in my talk page but, while I do understand Spanish (and Basque and even some French and Italian) this is the English Misplaced Pages. Other users may be interested eventually in what you say and English is the work language here.
So say what you have to say in the language of this media. Thanks. --Sugaar 21:40, 22 October 2006 (UTC)
Archive
- Discussion up to November 3 2006 archived in: Archive 1
- Discusion on the Basque Portal and Wikiproject archived in: Archive 2
- Nasty discussion on the White people article archived in: Archive 3
Basque portal
Kaixo! Thank you for contacting me to help you with a Basque portal, but I do not have too much free time nowadays and I prefer wasting it on Basque Misplaced Pages, and only sporadically on other Wikipedias. I hope you find someone to help you. Gero arte!
Katxijasotzaile 12:03, 11 November 2006 (UTC)
- Yes the Euskal Misplaced Pages does need a lot of work. Sadly I fear my Basque is too poor to help much.
- Anyhow, the project is active and the portal too, take a look:
- --Sugaar 14:53, 11 November 2006 (UTC)
- Thanks for the invite to help. I'm unable to devote much time to Misplaced Pages editing at the moment, but may be able to help later on. It's been 10 yrs now since I last visited the Basque Country, but visited it regularly before then and picked up some of the language in Barnetegiak. Probably my most useful contribution would be to tidy up some of the style and spelling/grammar errors in many of the Basque articles, which have obviously been written by people whose mother tongue is not English.
- --NSH001 21:11, 13 November 2006 (UTC)
- That's a great help indeed. :)
- --Sugaar 22:36, 13 November 2006 (UTC)
Kaixo Sugaar! Thank you for your invitation for creating the basque wikiproject, I have seen that you have created it and I think it's very interesting. I'll try to help you adding some information, but I have a lot of work adding info at our Misplaced Pages and working as an administrator. We have a lot of work with the basque wikipedia, creating pages and getting more people with us. Thank you for your contributions related to the Basque Country, we thank you a lot. If you want any information related to the basque language and country, you can ask me for it. Write me on my basque talk page, please! See you! TXiKi 23:06, 17 November 2006 (UTC)
- Mila esker, Txiki. Sadly my Basque is not good enough to work in eu.Misplaced Pages fluently but I can do that here instead. I take note of your offer and hope that it will be of use sometime in the future. Enjoy, --Sugaar 20:46, 21 November 2006 (UTC)
RE: RFM
I took care of archiving it. Thanks for letting me know. -^demon 20:47, 11 November 2006 (UTC)
- You're welcome, thanks to you. --Sugaar 21:15, 11 November 2006 (UTC)
Basque
Sorry but I'm gone in south america for 9 month. No project is possible for now. mileskerMuturzikin 14 November 2006 (UTC)
- Never mind. It will be around when you're back, I believe. --Sugaar 11:15, 15 November 2006 (UTC)
Mediation
- Medation has begun here. | AndonicO 19:35, 15 November 2006 (UTC)
You've been asked multiple times by many people to stop being incivil, stop attacking other editors and especially to stop harassing Thulean. Unfortunately you've now continued this both in the mediation and on my talk page. I've given you a short block - please stop the behavior and try to approach the mediation in a civil manner - without attacking and belittling other editors whom you disagree with. Shell 20:03, 17 November 2006 (UTC)
Continued dispute on WP:AN/I
As the header of the page states and other people have counseled you, please take your complaint about my abuse of sysop powers to the appropriate place. The specific directions for opening a complaint can be found here and the template to create the subpage is located here. I look forward to the chance to have the community comment on this situation. Shell 09:29, 21 November 2006 (UTC)
- Shell: the main page of RfC does not say anything about RfCs being the place to appeal administrators' abuse. Instead WP:BLOCK does say it is ANI where it belongs. No mention of RFC.
- Personally I am very sad that you insist in defending your wrong decission when it does so clearly breaks the rules. You have not even defended your decission (at least with minimal coherence) nor has done any other user/admin.
- I also find very sad that no other administrator has dared to intervene even when the case is so clearly a policy violation. I am offering an exit in good terms but as wikipedian I can't but follow the correct procedures outlined in the relevant policy pages and I hope that you do the same, because, as administrator you must abide to policy as much or even more than the common user.
- I am getting more and more worried at the apparent arbitrarity displayed and what seems a fear of retaliation felt by some administrators. As compromised wikipedian I can't but fight that with the means that policy allows. It's not just my pride, my feelings or anything of the like: it is Misplaced Pages and Misplaced Pages's pillars what are at the stake.
- Really sorry we are at this stage, really, I used to have a high esteem of administrators and Misplaced Pages community rule and I still hope this faith in Misplaced Pages will be restored, maybe today, maybe tomorrow, maybe in a few years. I have patience and perseverance. --Sugaar 17:48, 21 November 2006 (UTC)
White people
Is there any way I can talk you into coming back to work on this article? The fewer educated people we have on it, the easier it is to lose ground due to the 3RR rule.-Psychohistorian 20:09, 21 November 2006 (UTC)
- I wish I could, Psychohistorian, but I can't as I have been gagged by an administrator who considers I am something of a "systematic personal attacker", no matter I had no complaints before.
- Honestly, I suggest you to take a break and leave the article to Stormfront for a while. You can always retake it later, nominate the article for deletion, open an RfC, etc.
- Do not violate the 3RR please. It's better to bear a bad article than to be blocked on unquestionable grounds as that.
- But personally I am quitting it for mental health. I have more than enough with appealing my unjust block and other areas that interest me more than a non-existent race. Maybe, if my appeal succeeds, and after a loooong recess, I might retake it. But not right now. Sorry. --Sugaar 20:33, 21 November 2006 (UTC)
Misplaced Pages:Requests_for_comment/Sugaar
Per your request at WP:AN/I, I have opened a request for comment on the incidents surrounding the block you are disputing. Please add any evidence or discussion you would like to the Response section at Misplaced Pages:Requests_for_comment/Sugaar. Thanks. Shell 02:25, 22 November 2006 (UTC)
- You are wikilawyering. You have included things that happened long before the dispute began and after the block took place. Logically it will take me some time to gather all the info to reply to your far-fetched accusations.
- You should better accept that you have trespassed the limits of policy and that you have taken sides in a dispute where you, as administrator, had the duty of remaining neutral. It's normal that I don't trust you at this point. What is not so normal is that you admit no fault.
- I mean: I must have some part of reason even if small, partial or whatever. You admit nothing. I have apologized, I have admitted my errors (but you still use them against me), but you admit not a single piece of fault, not a single shadow of doubt, you are apparently the most perfect administrator ever: unable to commit a single error. Obviously that's not true. --Sugaar 12:51, 22 November 2006 (UTC)
¿Que esperas?
¿Por que no has respondido aun a nuestra invitacion, que esperas que te crezcan peras?Panfilio de BlancaManta
ArbCom questions for Paul August
Hi Sugaar. I've answered your questions. Thanks for asking. Paul August ☎ 19:49, 22 November 2006 (UTC)
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