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Important notice: The province was named Orissa prior to February 2013. Therefore, some of the links point to "Orissa" properly. Also, quotes were left in the original name "Orissa."

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Christian Terroism in India?

This is another section which has no connection to this article. Again the purpose seems to be here to weaken the article or neutralize any reports of atrocities in Orissa, by diverting attention to a nonsense section which has no connection to the article or the region of Orissa. This section shall be removed due to having no connection to this article.--Friedricer (talk) 04:29, 28 June 2009 (UTC)

Maoist-Christian Nexus

This article from Rediff contains a statement by one of the Maoist leaders. There, he admits that many of his supporters in Orissa come from the Christian community. Hokie Tech (talk) 00:10, 15 April 2010 (UTC)

Vigourous distortion by media

I'm not sure if this section and the "Summary of the chain of events before the riots" were meant to be together or not, but the Summary section cites no sources and the "Vigorous Distortion" section seems to be an editorial and also lacks any citations. The Summary section should be updated with sources, while the "Distortion" section, due to its editorial nature, would probably be better of being removed unless citations can be provided. Steve1davis (talk) 16:30, 28 May 2010 (UTC)

This article needs to be thoroughly revised

This article reads like it was directly copied out of a Hindu extremist pamphlet. Someone with extensive knowledge of religious conflict in Orissa and someone who has no ideological stake in this needs to rewrite this to meet Misplaced Pages standards. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.156.139.105 (talk) 05:43, 31 August 2010 (UTC)

I am a Hindu and was going to the relief camp with some vegetables and was arrested by the police.(Dt.30.08.2008)

August 2008 violence

Subsection says that three Christians were arrested, but Maoists mailed odd letter. Need to connect the dots a bit better between Maoists and Christians IMO. Sounds irrational without that connection. Student7 (talk) 03:20, 25 November 2011 (UTC)

Restructuring

An editor pointed out that we don't have much material (almost nothing) after 2008, except maybe a trial. To avoid that (temporarily, I assume), I integrated material at the bottom into "2008 violence."

The subtitle "Continued violence" seems more of an excuse to break off the long section, rather than anything helpful to the reader. Needs more restructuring, I think. And later material, if any. Student7 (talk) 17:26, 30 September 2012 (UTC)

Kandhamal Riots

Is a bit off. How exactly can a Maoist be a christian? And even one of the sources which says "It is a fact that Christians form the majority in our organisation" has the same guy saying " Panda, however, added that the rebel outfit did not have any religious convictions or allegiances." This contradiction leads me to question the accuracy of the source. Darkness Shines (talk) 07:11, 2 May 2013 (UTC)

Christians killed Laxmanananda and while the Maoist ideology is inherently secular in some sense, they are political allies of the Christians. Its simple.Pectore 01:55, 23 May 2013 (UTC)

Only because the accused murderers of Laxmananda happen to be christians, does not imply that christian community as a whole killed the Swami. They are members of the Maoist group and they killed him (or being accused of killing him) on the orders of the Maoist leader not the church/christian leaders. Similarily if a muslim employee, on the orders of his hindu boss kills a hindu guy , does that mean it is a religious violence? I would say its not. This whole concept of one converting ideological issue into communal issue is wrong and not suitable to be included in an encyclopedia.ScitDei (talk) 19:10, 29 May 2013 (UTC)

Christians refers to people that adhere to the religion of Christianity. Given the communal atmosphere in Odisha, your analogy is extremely flawed. The Maoists on multiple occasions mentioned their distaste for the Swami's Hindu revivalism projects among the tribals.Pectore 18:40, 31 May 2013 (UTC)

I totally agree with you. (a) Christians are those who follow Christ. (b) My analogy maybe flawed and (c) Maoist may have been against the Swami's attempts. I even agree that there may be some Christians in the Maoist organisation. But that does not give us the liberty to say that Christians are behind Swamiji's murder. The Maoist are actually behind the Swamiji's killing. And including the former in the encyclopedia is not right. I hope I have expressed my point better now.ScitDei (talk) 11:41, 3 June 2013 (UTC)

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