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just had a question. this distraction is an entertaining show. however,if someone wins a car and it is patially destroyed does shows insuranse pick up the cost or does the contestant which would seem lousy to me. trever
Gaining recognition
"Carr eventually gained recognition" - this needs to be expanded cos ur gay!, I think. I personally remember seeing this unfunny prat (if you'll excuse my opinion) for the first time doing stand-up on some variety performance, where he displayed his pitiful array of punchlines with a perfectly straight face (which is apparently hilarious?). Now, I can't quite remember which performance this was, but someone out there must know something about Carr's past before he started popping up on every damn show on Channel 4. 2 July 2005 18:01 (UTC)
- It was the Royal Variety Performance, but I can't remember which year. That was the first time I'd seen him on TV too; I laughed like a drain. :) DWaterson 21:06, 10 February 2006 (UTC)
NOOOOOOOO? UR ALL WRONG
yeah it was I still remember that show it pwned
- I disagree I find him to be a humourous entertainer
GOY BOI
Is he really Irish? He's in the category of Irish comedians, but his bio does not mention once that he's Irish. He's also not funny, but that's just my opinion.
YES - his mother and father are both Irish. That makes him Irish. He has an Irish passport.
He was born in Slough - so no, he's not Irish... And he's very funny - but thats just my opinion
Irish
He was born to Irish parents and carries an Irish passport . Looks like he wishes to be considered an Irish Citizen. Dugo 00:09, 27 November 2006 (UTC)
The source currently given to substantiate the claim that he is English isn't really valid, as it's taken from a short pre-written quip during a show to an American audience specifically to set up a joke, where, given the circumstances (limited amount of time he had to deliver the line combined with the ignorance of american audiences on everything) he couldn't have possibly explained that he was Irish and yet had an English accent. The source given above by Dugo is far more valid. I'm changing it. WildlifeAnalysis 21:48, 30 November 2006 (UTC)
- The counter source isn't that helpful either, it says he retains an Irish passport but that doesn't tell us if he is or is not a dual national nor does it tell us what nationality he considers himself. Perhaps English-Irish would be better untill we have a clear answer. Alci12 16:12, 1 December 2006 (UTC)
- That works for me. I'll change it to that, but it seems like it won't last very long, as there are random users, often anonymous, changing it strictly to English practically every day, obviously without reading the discussion page. WildlifeAnalysis 14:51, 2 December 2006 (UTC)
- English-Irish sounds horrible, and split nationalities like that for the sake of argument aren't favoured by Misplaced Pages. Having an Irish passport is irrelevant, because by default you get one if you have Irish parents. The fact that he was born in England will mean he has either an English one too, or one with dual nationality. He's also made no claims otherwise: he stated, on his XFM radio show, that he is English; obviously I can't reference that because it was ages ago. So WP:MOSBIO states that the nationality will be the one for which the subject is most notable, i.e. English. BTW, I'm Scottish, so I'm not biased one way or the other. BertieBasset 15:02, 2 December 2006 (UTC)
- Interestingly, I just followed the link given on the article to substantiate the claim that he was born in England and the link cited doesn't mention that at all. In fact, I just found another site (http://www.ireland.com/newspaper/magazine/2006/0909/1156791506043.html) in which he states that he was in fact born in Ireland, and moved to England at some point during his childhood. So the "English because he was born in England" bit won't fly. So seeing as how he was born in Ireland, to Irish parents, and has an Irish passport (is there even a source saying that he has an English passport/citizenship at all?), I think it's safe to say he can be quite clearly defined as Irish. WildlifeAnalysis 15:48, 2 December 2006 (UTC)
- I know this seems to have been settled, but just to further confirm he is Irish, carries an Irish passport, was born in Ireland to two Irish parents; he says so himself on his Parkinso interview which can be found about 8 mintes into his showreel on this page www.myspace.com/jimmycarrlive - just to confirm :)--86.147.171.159 22:58, 10 December 2006 (UTC)
- Interestingly, I just followed the link given on the article to substantiate the claim that he was born in England and the link cited doesn't mention that at all. In fact, I just found another site (http://www.ireland.com/newspaper/magazine/2006/0909/1156791506043.html) in which he states that he was in fact born in Ireland, and moved to England at some point during his childhood. So the "English because he was born in England" bit won't fly. So seeing as how he was born in Ireland, to Irish parents, and has an Irish passport (is there even a source saying that he has an English passport/citizenship at all?), I think it's safe to say he can be quite clearly defined as Irish. WildlifeAnalysis 15:48, 2 December 2006 (UTC)
- English-Irish sounds horrible, and split nationalities like that for the sake of argument aren't favoured by Misplaced Pages. Having an Irish passport is irrelevant, because by default you get one if you have Irish parents. The fact that he was born in England will mean he has either an English one too, or one with dual nationality. He's also made no claims otherwise: he stated, on his XFM radio show, that he is English; obviously I can't reference that because it was ages ago. So WP:MOSBIO states that the nationality will be the one for which the subject is most notable, i.e. English. BTW, I'm Scottish, so I'm not biased one way or the other. BertieBasset 15:02, 2 December 2006 (UTC)
- That works for me. I'll change it to that, but it seems like it won't last very long, as there are random users, often anonymous, changing it strictly to English practically every day, obviously without reading the discussion page. WildlifeAnalysis 14:51, 2 December 2006 (UTC)
- Fair enough, that seems to settle it. I've put a disclaimer on the article. BertieBasset 17:38, 2 December 2006 (UTC)