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DYK

On June 2, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article GayFest, which you created. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the "Did you know?" talk page.

--Cactus.man ✍ 11:28, 2 June 2006 (UTC)

Speaking of gay, guess who's back? --Candide, or Optimism 13:29, 2 June 2006 (UTC)

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GayFest references

It would be nice if English translations for Romanian news article titles could be provided. Regards. Circeus 03:46, 4 June 2006 (UTC)

Thanks! Tomorrow, I'l probably go and covert them to Cite templates. Circeus 04:10, 4 June 2006 (UTC)

Okay, I converted everything except the Pravda and Nadiafax links, because they were inaccessible. The Journalul title also lacks a translation (I think it's because it was added after I made the above comment), and I commented out the last ref because it seemed to have an improper url or something. It linked to the program for 2006. Circeus 21:21, 4 June 2006 (UTC)

GayFest discussion

Do you have any idea on who these guys, Anonimu and Biruitorul are? They look very much like what I read in the news about "Noua Dreapta". Disturbing... Dpotop 18:46, 5 June 2006 (UTC)

Vanadals

This has been around for a couple of months, in the article on Romania:

19:57, 10 April 2006 Mashu (History) By war's end Austria-Hungary and the Russian Empire had collapsed, allowing Bessarabia and Bukovina to unite with the Kingdom of Romania in 1918. Transylvania was annexed to Romania by force in the Treaty of Trianon in 1920.

Can you revert to:

19:55, 10 April 2006 RadioKirk (...) By war's end Austria-Hungary and the Russian Empire had collapsed, allowing Bessarabia, Bukovina and Transylvania to unite with the Kingdom of Romania in 1918. Union of Transylvania with Romania was ratified in the Treaty of Trianon in 1920.

User:Metrocat

Romanian Metrocat was blocked without any ArbCom or CheckUser to establish a link to a vandal. Help her! --193.227.206.157 17:43, 6 June 2006 (UTC)

Unblocking request

Salut! Vreau numa sa iti spun ca vreau sa imi fie deprotectat contul cat mai repede, si tu iesti cel mai in masura sa ma ajuti. Iti multumesc mult! Toate cele bune, Arthur 6 Iunie 2006

PNG

In ciuda tuturor antipatiilor personale, o regula de bun simt o reprezinta sustinerea afirmatiilor cu argumente. Te-as ruga sa consolidezi opinia potrivit careia PNG se situeaza doctrinar la extrema dreapta cu ceva mai mult decat un extras dintr-un cotidian central. Daca sustii existenta unui partid neo-fascist in Romania, trebuie sa si demonstrezi. Pana la proba contrarie, un partid politic este etichetat conform propriilor declaratii doctrinare. Si ca o mica observatie politologica... caracterul actiunilor recente ale presedintelui PNG se situeaza pe pozitii antitetice cu notiunea de dreapta moderna.--R.S.ro 08:27, 8 June 2006 (UTC)

ARCHIVE

Please ohh please, for the love of god. Being a bit dramatic, but with OVER 100 discussions on your talk page, I suggest that you archive previous discussions that are not ongoing. Especially stuff from 2004 and 2005. Just trying to make your talk page more user friendly. Danl 01:13, 10 June 2006 (UTC)

You are quite welcome. Most people plan to do stuff, but unless someone comes along with a stick and pokes them, they don't do it. :) Danl 08:23, 10 June 2006 (UTC)

Image:Titan metro station 2.jpg

Please, if you're going to be uploading my pictures off of flickr, use the original size ones.

Also, there is this if you wanted to upload it.

- Swarve 08:52, 13 June 2006 (UTC)

Yeah i'm loving Romania, i've been here since January. My photos are for the taking, so grab them if you have more photos you would like to upload. I have some HDR images of other landmarks in Bucharest i would like to put together, but i don't have a computer so i can't do it till i'm back in Australia. I'm from a small town called Traralgon, did you spend most of your time in Australia in Sydney?

-Swarve 13:23, 13 June 2006 (UTC)

Ah yes i know of Oradea. I'm here until next thursday. Are you uploading the photos or should i re-upload them?

-Swarve 13:45, 13 June 2006 (UTC)

Anittas

Do you think there is something I (we) could do for him? Dpotop 12:52, 14 June 2006 (UTC)

FWIW, I've more or less volunteered to correspond with him and to pass through (by one means or another) substantive remarks, but I've made it clear that I will not pass through insults, etc. If we want to do something formally, the right thing would probably be to start an RFC in which we could discuss that his conduct, while still not perfect, seemed to be generally better the last few months, etc. I don't think Misplaced Pages does itself any favors when someone who has mostly reformed is punished for previous conduct. And I think it is important that none of this was about intellectual dishonesty. - Jmabel | Talk 07:12, 17 June 2006 (UTC)

NorbertArthur

NorbertArthur is apparently evading the block you put on him. - Jmabel | Talk 07:08, 17 June 2006 (UTC)

Move Moldavia (historical region) to Moldavia

Ronline,

we have finished the merger of Principality of Moldavia, Moldova (Romanian region) and Moldova (historical region). The main text is now found at Moldova (historical region) and we've decided to move it to Moldavia. That page is, however, used as a disambiguation page and I cannot simply move the article to that location, and received a message stating that only administrator can perform the operation. Could you please move the page. TSO1D 15:26, 17 June 2006 (UTC)

http://mo.wikipedia.org/Wikipedia:Administrator

Sitenotice on ro:

Hello. Bogdangiusca tells me you're an admin on ro. The sitenotice about wikimania (MediaWiki:Sitenotice) needs to be translated and put up on all projects. Can you please put it up on ro:MediaWiki:Sitenotice? Thanks. Zocky | picture popups 11:04, 21 June 2006 (UTC)

3 revert rule

Hello Ronline, would you be so kind to enforce, or ask some other admin to enforce the 3RR rule on the page Second Vienna Award? There are two trolls and one anon IP (maybe a sock) that reverted text today several times (4-5 times each, I presume). Dpotop 18:41, 22 June 2006 (UTC)

It appears to be over. As concerns your reply, I found it a bit funny, because in a 3RR incident, there's always two parties (at least). One cannot infringe 3RR by himself. :) Dpotop 13:10, 23 June 2006 (UTC)

technical question

Who is authorized to perform sockpuppet checks? Is there an automated service for doing it? Dpotop 13:11, 23 June 2006 (UTC)

See WP:RCU. --Tēlex 13:12, 23 June 2006 (UTC)

Standardized look for geographical infoboxes

Hi - I created a proposed guideline for geographical infoboxes I expect you might be interested in, please see Misplaced Pages:Geographical infoboxes. -- Rick Block (talk) 00:56, 26 June 2006 (UTC)

"ethnically East European"

Yeah, but not all East Europeans are Slavic. You know that. You're a Romanian I assume. You must hate being called Slavic, but you are certainly still proud to be "East European" nonetheless. Le Anh-Huy 06:06, 29 June 2006 (UTC)

Cleanup for Constanţa

Hi, you added a "Cleanup" tag to this article on June 11 without indicating what is wrong with it. We need more info on that, thanks. Mentatus 16:07, 3 July 2006 (UTC)

Misplaced Pages:Naming conventions (geographic names)

sal.

am revenit pe wikipedia, si primul lucru pe care lam facut a fost sa incerc sa solutzionez problema Talk:Harghita County topicul Misplaced Pages:Naming conventions (geographic names) din paginile despre Counties of Romania. am sters numele magyare ale diviziunilor administrative ale regatului magyar trecute ca nume alternative pt numele diviziunilor administrative ale Romaniei in paragraful de inceput, in conformitate cu conventziile stabilite de wikipedia. Misplaced Pages:Naming conventions (geographic names)

anul trecut am incercat sa solutzionez aceeasi problema dar din cauza ca nu am comunicat bine cu ceilaltzi editori romani, lucrurile au capatat un aspect superficial de "reglementat" (ma refer la Talk:Harghita/Vote)

nu shtiu daca ai fost in cunostintza de cauza cu votul privind numele alternativ al judetzului Harghita.

te informez (si voi informa si altzi editori romani) despre aceasta intentzie a mea de a reglementa articolele referitoare la Romania in acord cu conventziile enciclopediilor renumite.

de forma "riul Mures are nume alternativ Maros deoarece curge si prin Ungaria, judetzul Mures nu are nume alternativ Maros pt ca nu este impartzit de Romania cu Ungaria"

probabil ai observat ca articolele privitoare la magyari si secui editate de editori care au un POV (sau sunt dezinformati) evidentziaza Transylvania ca pe un fel de entitate administrativa, bagand laolalta si banatu si crisana si maramuresu in ea. pt acesti editori tot ce a fost odata sub administratzia magyara se afla acum in Regiunea Transilvania, nu in judetzele sau regiunile administrative ale Romaniei. tot ce a fost odata sub administratzia magyara trebuie musai sa aiba nume alternativ magyar. kit ca doar 5% de magyari locuiesc in judetzul Hunedoara de exemplu. am incercat sa clarific ce inseamna Alternative name pt a putea defini o conventzie care sa evite asemenea imensitate (articolele despre jumatate din teritoriul romaniei sa aiba nume alternative magyare si sa fie asociate cu o Regiune Transilvania)

io unu consider ca motivul din spatele acestor editari ale articolelor despre teritorii care au fost sub administratzie magyara in trecut, si anume incercarea de a induce cititorului wikipediei ideea ca exista o entitate administrativa Transylvania care sar afla sub administratzia Romaniei cumva impotriva naturii (consider ca editorii respectivi sunt afectatzi de propaganda revizionista magyara).

ok, in concluzie, cred ca va trebui in cele din urma sa ma adrese Comitetului de Arbitrii in solutzionarea acestor "nume alternative magyare pt tot ce a fost odata sub administrarea Ungariei" si "Regiunea Transilvania" Criztu 07:38, 11 July 2006 (UTC)

Ronline, cred că ar fi bine să te implici şi tu în discuţia pe care a deschis-o Criztu, la Misplaced Pages:Mediation_Cabal/Cases/2006-07-17_names_of_administrative_divisions_of_Romania. Cred că ştii care e părerea mea despre această problemă (mi-am exprimat-o la User_talk:Criztu#Numele_alternativ), dacă e cazul pot să mi-o exprim şi la Mediation Cabal, dar cred că tu poţi să susţii poziţia ta mai eficient. Razvan Socol 08:52, 18 July 2006 (UTC)

Gibraltar

Hi Ronline! We would appreciate your outside opinion in the following RfC! http://en.wikipedia.org/Wikipedia:Requests_for_comment/Gibnews

Thanks alot! --Burgas00 11:35, 11 July 2006 (UTC)

Redirect

Can you redirect Romania in the Dark Ages to Romania in the Early Middle Ages? Thanks. 15:31, 11 July 2006 (UTC)

Misplaced Pages Naming conventions

sal, am deskis un topic pe aceeasi tema a numelor alternative pt diviziunile administrative ale unui stat http://en.wikipedia.org/Wikipedia_talk:Naming_conventions#Administrative_division_may_have_an_alternative_name_.3F am mentionat acolo si faptul ca team intrebat de ce numele magyar al Romaniei nu este oferit ca nume alternativ in articolul Romania. Criztu 18:19, 11 July 2006 (UTC)

take a look at the french wikipedia, see how administrative region of Brittany is treated as oposed to historical Brittany Criztu 09:54, 12 July 2006 (UTC)

take a look at the magyar wikipedia see how Csongrád (county) and Szeged are treated. u'll see no efforts from magyar editors of magyar wikipedia to translate the romanian name of Csongrad County, or Szabolcs-Szatmár-Bereg (romanian alternative name Sabolci-SatuMare-Bereg). why are editors of the romanian articles on english wikipedia so keen on ofering magyar alternative names for administrative divisions of romania, yet they dont offer the romanian alternative names for hungarian administrative divisions in the magyar wikipedia, or even in english wikipedia ? Criztu 10:16, 12 July 2006 (UTC)

Minority groups in Greece

Minority groups in Greece si Hellenization. Te rog sa intervii si tu in incercarea de a stavili ethnocentrismul si ultranationalismu grec. Check out the edits. Ce fac ei nu se cheama weasel words? Si de ce sterg labelul sectfact cand e clar ca (cel putin) acea sectiune nu e NPOV. Te rog sa intervii. (Bogdan a facuto) Mersi 20:56, 13 July 2006 (UTC)

Oroare

uitete si u la articolul Transylvania . se vorbejte acolo de administrative divisions of Transylvania . "The territory known today as Transylvania consists of a region of 16 counties " - de 3 ori vai. Criztu 13:41, 14 July 2006 (UTC)

explanations

sal ronline, am vazut explicatia ta din edit la Tulcea, cu "tatarii sunt diferiti de turci". cred ca nu e nevoie sa scrii asemenea lucruri evidente, ca doar no sa sara nimeni sa itzi dea revert lol. cred ca abia atunci cand editul tau este "controversial" abia atunci merita sa pierzi timp cu dat explicatii in edit Criztu 12:30, 15 July 2006 (UTC)

a, si sunt curios, cum se conjuga Rroma la plural, nu Rromas ? and how is Rromas different from Romas ? Criztu 12:43, 15 July 2006 (UTC)

I suggest

I suggest a reference to the respective historical region in the infoboxes of Romanian counties. Tell me what you think. Dahn 21:00, 16 July 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for your support. Could you check and give me your opinion on the debate at Talk:Transylvania and, in case you agree with me, ask Critzu to explain himself? Dahn 10:52, 17 July 2006 (UTC)

need mediation

Please I need help. I need mediation in a discussion about the article Persecution of Jehovah's Witnesses. There is a document called Declaration of facts in wich the JW assosiation 1n 1933 explains to Hitler its position in favour of the regime and the regime Ideals. This try of the JW assosiation did not succeeded and Hitler continued is persecution vs JW. They want to hide the document and want to give the document a different explanation because it is a bothering truth in JW history. But the document speaks by itself. Please I would like mediation. They do not correct our work they simply delete it, most of the time without any explanation in the discussion. Need mediation --Truthwanted 12:15, 20 July 2006 (UTC)

1919 Ro-Hu war

Please see , , , Greier 16:24, 23 July 2006 (UTC)

User:Grasu2

Can you please show this user (did not edit his personal page) what we do with vandals? Check out his edit history at Greater Romania Party. Dahn 18:08, 23 July 2006 (UTC)

Wikţionar

Salut! Am făcut un bot care să mă ajute în munca de pe Wikţionar şi am nevoie de aprobarea comunităţii pentru a i se acorda statutul. Te rog, vezi wikt:ro:Wikţionar:Bot/Cereri de aprobare. Merci mult! — KlaudiuMihăilă 17:09, 26 July 2006 (UTC)

RE: Johnny Lee Clary - Please help

Hey there, my name is Nick, my username is Potters house and I have encountered a problem with trying to provide any information about Johnny Lee Clary. I have posted this post off to other staff members also. I am not sure if this is the best route to resolve this, but can think of no other way.

The article Johnny Lee Clary has been deleted. I have known Johnny through telephone conversations and email for a short time now (about 3-4 months). He recently came and shared his life story in for our church group for the first time just two weeks ago. Before I met Johnny I became interested in his story i.e. his conversion from the head of the KKK in the US, to being a Christian Minister who now teaches against race hate groups. I found the article Johnny Lee Clary as it still is today, deleted, except for some small talk. If you read the talk you see what I have said at the time (notice I have gotten no reply, probable my fault as I don’t know heaps about WIKI policy). From my understanding Johnny Lee Clary was posting as The KingOfDixie and looks like he tried to change a few things on Wiki concerning the KKK. While this is a controversial subject, Johnny being the former leader of the KKK would probably know a thing or two and be able to contibute, but that’s another story. He eventually made an article about himself i.e. Johnny Lee Clary. Johnny being quite new to Wiki and ignorant of rules of conduct found himself at odds with some admins and had his site deleted.

Whilst observing Johnny over the last 3-4 months I have noticed that he is very outspoken against race hate groups such as the Neo Nazis, Skinheads, KKK etc. This, more often than not, lands Johnny in the hot seat. He has experienced persecution from racist groups for his departure from the KKK and voiced opinions against these racist organizations on his webpage, www.xkkk.org. Johnny has also received multiple death threats.

Because of his bold stance against these racist groups Johnny has become accustomed to hatred directed at him by those same groups. Johnny concluded that perhaps the guy who deleted the page Johnny Lee Clary was a white supremist. I am hoping to clear this up. Before he told me this, I started to create J L Clary, after hearing nothing from posting in user talk on Johnny Lee Clary's article. I wasn't 10 minutes into the J L Clary article when it was issued a deletion notice, and then before I had time to reply (about 5 minutes) it was deleted! I was amazed. I told this to Johnny and he said the main reason he was told that he couldn't have an article was because he was not prominent enough.

Johnny has a very famous testimony and has been on multiple TV shows like Oprah, Donahue, Jerry Springer, etc, and even recently when he preached in our town he made front page news, a double spread on his life, and the local ABC interviewed him live, which is not bad for our town (LISMORE NSW Australia) See http://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=John_Kerry&dir=prev&offset=20050327125109&limit=500&action=history .

When David Wilkerson came to our town hardly anyone knew or cared, yet David Wilkerson is allowed an article (and rightfully so), but more people know of Johnny. As to whether he is famous or not, just Google search him and see all the TV interviews and radio interviews he does. He hangs with some of the most prominent Christian leaders in Australia. Besides this, just being the former KKK leader should be enough for an article (he doesn't even get a mention in the KKK one, and would be deleted). He was also a Pro Wrestler. So he is prominent in Christian circles, he is prominent amongst race hate groups, and he is also prominent in the WWE wrestling.

Johnny asked me to test the waters for him to see if he was being persecuted by someone from a race hate group. So I created some sites, John Clary Wade Watts and Operation Colorblind - the name of Johnny's Ministry. These have been fine until yesterday. I cannot understand why these sites are just issued a deletion notice? Just because they mention JLC? I was hoping to discuss these things but they are just deleted. The one on Wade Watts is about a black gospel preacher who was one of the leaders in the civil rights movement in the US and was good friends with Martin Luther King. He took Johnny Clary under his wing and even ordained Johnny as a minister (to this day Johnny is the only white man ordained in the All Black Baptist Church). But his article is up for deletion because I mentioned Clary and had a link.

That is why I am writing to you to see if you can help. It seems to me that the person(s) deleting all articles which even mention Johnny Lee Clary has an agenda. I thought that wikipedia admins had to keep a neutral stance on every article. It seems like this guy has a vendetta against JLC. Why delete the Wade Watts article. That is guilt by association and could be proof that all deletions are because of racial discrimination! I hope this is not the case and would think that it is politically motivated, as Johnny is a strong supporter of George Bush and Antaeus Feldspar of Kerry.

See:

http://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=John_Kerry&dir=prev&offset=20050327125109&limit=500&action=history This shows how Antaeus Feldspar supports Kerry, which is fine, but Johnny is a strong supporter of Bush.

My hope is that Johnny will be able to have an article like any other famous person, minister, former KKK leader, or pro wrestler, and that Johnny and anyone connected with him and his ministry will in future have certain rules set in place that do not allow the wholesale deletion of the articles associated with him, but that they will be at least discussed.

I thank you for reading this long winded post. I have only been using WIKI for about a year myself so I need your help, I don't really know what else to do. I hope you can help. I personally think that Johnny's story is one that is beneficial to the cause of reconciliation between races and to the3 unity of society as a whole. It would be a shame if WIKI became known for having covert racists. Of course I hope that this is a misunderstanding and that all will be cleared up soon.

Here are some links that might help.

http://en.wikipedia.org/Wade_Watts

http://en.wikipedia.org/User_talk:TheKingOfDixie

http://en.wikipedia.org/Operation_Colorblind

http://en.wikipedia.org/User:Threeafterthree

http://en.wikipedia.org/User_talk:Potters_house

http://en.wikipedia.org/Wikipedia:Deletion_policy

http://en.wikipedia.org/User:Antaeus_Feldspar

http://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=John_Kerry&dir=prev&offset=20050327125109&limit=500&action=history This shows how Antaeus Feldspar supports Kerry, which is fine, but Johnny is a strong supporter of Bush. Perhaps the bias is political and not racial?

The link for page: John Clary has already been deleted!

http://en.wikipedia.org/User:Alabamaboy

Please notice that his link was taken from the KKK site the same day:

http://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=Ku_Klux_Klan&diff=prev&oldid=65690238

then

http://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=Ku_Klux_Klan&diff=next&oldid=65690238

Also note his contributions: Featured articles: · African American literature -- My first featured article. Thanks to everyone who gave feedback. While I didn't start the article, I obsessed on it for an entire month and wrote most of the copy. · Ku Klux Klan -- I began work on this article after it became a featured article. Since then I've mediated several editorial disputes on the article (including one of which kept the article from being delisted as a FA) and made a large number of edit. Potters house 00:26, 27 July 2006 (UTC) Nick.

Tot Wikţionar

Bună! Mai am o rugăminte. Am vrut să adaug 2 spaţii de nume noi, dar la Bugzilla mi s-a cerut sondaj. Aşa că am făcut o propunere, ro:wikt:Wiktionary:Evenimente curente. Pentru că şi aşa comunitate nu prea există, am pus ca sondajul să dureze 3 zile. Vrei să participi şi tu, dacă ai 2 minute? Merci mult! — KlaudiuMihăilă 18:01, 2 August 2006 (UTC)

Request

Hi Ronline,

Would you be able to answer this question? In my opinion, you're the user who can answer it the best. Mulţumesc! —Khoikhoi 22:55, 4 August 2006 (UTC)

Transylvania

Please take a look at what User:Criztu has begun doing in the article Transylvania. This man has called for mediation, has opened ten debates on the same topic in various places, has been proven wrong every single time, and now he just adds the same views without even caring. Please give your input on the article's talk page about whether this is or isn't trolling/vandalism. Dahn 16:14, 7 August 2006 (UTC)

Please take a look at Satu Mare County and Târnava River also... Zello 20:12, 7 August 2006 (UTC)

We need to protect the article taking in view what is happening at the time I am writing this. Dahn 15:04, 9 August 2006 (UTC)

Hungarian language officialy recognised in Romania

hi Ronline, i hope u read the law about the use of the language of the minorities in the localities where these minorities form 20% of the population. If you formulate this concept as "Hungarian language officialy recognised in Romania" then in my opinion you can present an official document of ROmania written in Hungarian language. The fact that public signs have the hungarian name of a city does not make that sign an official document. as the documents with the hungarian translation of an official document received by an ethnic hungarian are not oficial documents. Criztu 17:39, 8 August 2006 (UTC)

Dear mediator

Ronline, we need your mediator skills and monitoring on the problem which exists on Georgian-Abkhaz conflict. I was personally attacked by By User:mikkalai: "A Russophobic LDingley aggressively pushes his POV in Georgian-Abkhaz conflict despite myself being exceptionally mild with my changes after ghirla asked me to keep an eye. Judging from his swinging hot temper I start suspecting that he is in fact a sock of a Georgian nationalist, contrary to the photo in his user page." Also the talk page on that article is going nowhere. We need your help. Thanks in advance. Ldingley 18:12, 14 August 2006 (UTC)

Your GA nomination

Please make sure to provide a helpful edit summary (per the instructions and big red box) when editing the nominations list in future. This will help us keep the Good Articles wikiproject running more efficiently. Thanks.  -- Run!  08:41, 29 August 2006 (UTC)

Bač

I would like to ask you whether this word was used as a personal name in Romanian language or not in the past or the present. I know that it means shepherd in Romanian but Panonian claims that it was also a name. If that's true I'm not against to mention it in the Bács (personal name) article. I'm also sure that his Romanian ortography in the form Bac is incorrect. Zello 16:34, 1 September 2006 (UTC)

Hi, I saw you corrected the orthography. Do you have any guess about the existence as a personal name? The conflict is over now and the final version is quite good - well-sourced and neutral. We also have two articles about the names, it came out that they are of different origin. If the Romanian name exists than it is certainly a relative of the Serbian one (Bač (personal name)), and would be great to mention it there. If not then we should delete from the town etymology as it is accepted that the town was named after a person not an occupation. Zello 01:20, 2 September 2006 (UTC)

Deleting revisions

I noticed you were discussing with with Nick Mks - you might want to take a look at this page on meta. Thanks. —Xyrael / 14:03, 2 September 2006 (UTC)

Romanian name

See this: http://en.wikipedia.org/Talk:Bač#Romanians There is relatively large Romanian minority living in the town, thus I think that Romanian name for the town should be included into preface part too. Is it correct name for this town in Romanian "Baci" or something else? PANONIAN (talk) 20:52, 3 September 2006 (UTC)

hello Ronline theBlackbay here 

Help From fellow Wikipedians against censorship!

Thank you for your time I was wondering if i could ask your opinion?? :)

Misplaced Pages:Articles for deletion/G. Edward Griffin here is the Article on G. Edward Griffin that I have just reconstructed and am still in the process of doing, But it's been put up for deletion?.

I was wondering if you could pitch in a comment in any direction you feel but I believe this man is very notable having Authored such books as The Creature from Jekyll Island a history of the Federal Reserve Act of 1913, but also many many more films as well, also being a member of many organisations.

Me being an inclusionist of sorts I would rather see changes made rather than a wholesale deletion, what do you think?

The man is very notable he has been doing this sort of work since the 60’s when he created the “The Capitalist Conspiracy” one of the first and most documented histories of Political Corruption in film that I know of.

Thank you for all your help, I’m just starting out in Misplaced Pages I have created the Benjamin H. Freedman, article and reconstructed the The Money Masters article and some others but I need help here! Any help of mine you may need or want in any regard in the future just ask :)

Also any contribution you would like to make to improve the article please consider!

Really i wouldn't ask if i did not really think this article worthy.

-Theblackbay 15:41, 4 September 2006 (UTC)

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Check this

Misplaced Pages:Romanian Wikipedians' notice board#UPDATE Anonimu 19:21, 4 September 2006 (UTC)

Vino la pagina de discutii Transnistria

În 17 septembrie va fi referendum în Transnistria legat de independenţa regiunii. Cu această ocazie probabil multă lume va căuta pe Misplaced Pages informaţii despre Transnistria. Am încercat să adaug în articol nişte informaţii legate de acest referendum, anume:

- faptul că mai multe organizaţii antiseparatiste au lansat un apel la boicotare, considerînd referendumul "farsă"

- faptul că din 46 de ţări membre ale Consiliului Europei, 45 sînt împotriva recunoaşterii referendumului, numai RUsia are altă părere

- faptul că datele Comisiei Electorale Centrale din Tiraspol au fost schimbate în mod ciudat, anume numărul total de alegători s-a micşorat cu 7% faţă de 2005, ceea ce ridică suspiciuni asupra unei încercări de creştere artificială a prezenţei la vot prin raportarea unui număr mai mic de alegători înregistraţi.

Totdeauna am dat lincurile care dovedesc cele scrise de mine, n-am născocit nimic din burtă.

Userul Willian Mauco, care pare fan Tiraspol, mereu mi-a şters adăugirile. (vezi istoria paginii)

Puteţi vedea la pagina de discuţii Transnistria ce argumente a adus. Anume: ăia care cer boicotarea referendumului din Transnistria sînt foşti KGB-işti, că aşa zice o organizaţie rusească de analiză (a dat un linc pentru asta). Întîi a spus că respectivii nici nu sînt din Transnistria, ci doar din Basarabia, dar i-am dovedit că unii dintre semnatarii apelului la boicot sînt transnistreni. Am fost împăciuitor, i-am zis că n-are decît să adauge părerea organizaţiei ruseşti că antiseparatiştii sînt foşti KGBişti, că n-are decît să-i considere pe cei care vor boicotarea referendumului drept băieţi răi, dar faptul în sine, că s-a cerut boicotarea referendumului, trebuie menţionat. Degeaba, mereu mi s-au şters adăugirile - pentru celelalte 2 fapte nici n-a adus argumente.

A mai fost o adăugire care a şters-o, despre arestarea a 4 persoane din Transnistria care sînt împotriva separatismului (între timp li s-a dat drumul). În cazul ăsta am renunţat eu să mai insist pentru includerea informaţiei în articol (deşi informaţia e incontestabilă), tocmai fiindcă n-am vrut să mă cert prea mult.

În perioada asta cînd agenţiile de ştiri vor menţiona referendumul de la Tiraspol, se va citi articolul Transnistria în Misplaced Pages poate mai mult decît într-un an întreg. De aia acum e nevoie să existe în articol informaţii despre contestarea corectitudinii referendumului. Nu cer să se menţioneze ca adevăr absolut faptul că referendumul e incorect, ci doar că există unii (OSCE, 45 din 46 ţări ale Consiliului Europei, unele organizaţii din zonă şi din Basarabia) care consideră asta. Vă cer de aceea sprijinul ca să interveniţi pe pagina de discuţii Transnistria pentru a susţine rămînerea informaţiei în pagină şi să repuneţi informaţia atunci cînd Mauco o şterge (eu nu pot să verific chiar 24 de ore din 24). Evitaţi atacurile suburbane, păstraţi ton civilizat. mulţumesc.

Who is William Mauco Here is an article about a Misplaced Pages celebrity, William Mauco, and his relations with the International Council for Democratic Institutions and State Sovereignty (ICDISS), an organisation "which seems to be a front organisation for a Kremlin-backed rogue statelet called Transdniestria" (quote from the article) http://0.bypass-filter.com/index.php?q=aHR0cDovL2Vkd2FyZGx1Y2FzLmJsb2dzcG90LmNvbS8yMDA2LzA4L2dvdGNoYS0yLmh0bWw%3D

Edward Lucas wrote about Mauco: "The other lead is William Mauco. He has an extensive record of posting intelligent and fairly neutral entries on Misplaced Pages, not only about TD but about other unrecognised statelets. Crucially, these predate ICDISS's birthday of January 2006. And he also claims to have been at their conference in Mexico City in April of this year. I have written to him asking to get in touch, and had a friendly email in reply. I am planning to follow up this research in an article in European Voice at the end of August, so watch this space!"--MariusM 08:31, 16 September 2006 (UTC)

Transnistria's update

Am observat că ai intervenit la articolul Transnistria, dar a avut grijă Mikkalai să-ţi şteargă adăugirile. Eu am făcut şi o cerere de ridicare a protecţiei la care nu s-a răspuns.

Rezultatul actual e că s-a inclus în articol doar o menţiune despre organizaţiile internaţionale care nu recunosc referendumul şi faptul că s-a redus electoratul cu 7% (dar fără menţionarea dubiilor pe care aceasta le ridică), dar nimic despre boicot.

Am avut probleme cu Mauco şi Mikkalai şi la un alt articol - Union of Moldavians in Pridnestrovie. Era acolo o propoziţie "As stated by an OSCE document ethnic Moldavians in Transnistria overhelmingly opposed unification with Moldova", dar acel document OSCE pur şi simplu nu conţine o asemenea frază (şi nici nu m-am lămurit pe deplin ce document e, căci linkul dat, la insistenţa mea, de Mauco, este de la state.gov dar nu apare numele celor care au alcătuit documentul). CÎnd i-am cerut documentul OSCE, Mauco a schimbat vorba, a zis că sînt alte studii care arată dorinţa moldovenilor din Transnistria (deci: nu numai a slavilor din regiune, ci chiar a moldovenilor) e ca să nu se unească cu Moldova. Am propus varianta "Some Moldavians in Transnistria oppose the unification with the Republic of Moldova", dar s-a şters. S-a scos doar "overhelmingly", a rămas "Moldavians in Transnistria oppose unification...", iar pagina a fost protejată.

Poţi vedea la istoria respectiv discuţia paginii toate astea - ţi le scriu ca să înţelegi cu cel fel de oameni avem de a face.

După ce trece referendumul eu mă gîndesc să cer o arbitrare în problemele astea cu Mauco (eventual şi cu Mikkalai), tu ce părere ai? Sînt nou la Misplaced Pages, nu prea ştiu cum funcţionează comisiile astea de arbitraj, de aia îţi cer sfatul.--MariusM 07:16, 17 September 2006 (UTC)

Votează contra ştergerii articolului Heaven of Transnistria

Împreună cu EvilAlex (un tip din Tighina - Transnistria) am creat un articol despre propaganda separatistă a Tiraspolului Heaven of Transnistria. I s-a cerut ştergerea. Te rog ajută-ne să păstră articolul, votînd contra ştergerii. Destul s-a şters din articolul principal Transnistria, Misplaced Pages e plină de propagandă a Tiraspolului, să avem măcar un articol care explică această propagandă--MariusM 18:34, 20 September 2006 (UTC)

European Union Statistics

G'day. I saw you've edited economic statistics on the European Union page. Would you be able to check if this diff by 217.96.178.52 is an accurate change to the statistics. I thought you may have a better chance of verifying this than me. Cheers, Jpe|ob 11:06, 24 September 2006 (UTC)

Mihai Maghiaru

Bine ma daca chiar in asa hal nu vezi ce folos are articolu pune mana si rescrie-l nu-mi zice mie ca are probleme, ai priceput? Sa nu incepi cu aiurelile tale iarasi ca ne trebuie surse idioate da, ca deja mergi prea departe. Arthur 2 Octombrie 2006

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Ajutor pentru arbitrare

Am avut nişte dispute cu User:William Mauco pe articolul Union of Moldavians in Pridnestrovie, în care acesta pretinde că majoritatea moldovenilor din Transnistria susţine regimul separatist de la Tiraspol. După lungi discuţii, am cerut mediere, pe care tipul n-a acceptat-o în 7 zile (n-a spus clar că nu acceptă medierea dar pur şi simplu n-a semnat că acceptă), iar apoi am cerut arbitrare http://en.wikipedia.org/Wikipedia:Requests_for_arbitration#Union_of_Moldavians_in_Pridnestrovie Pînă acum doar 1 arbitru a acceptat arbitrarea. Ştiu că eşti admin, ai putea convinge şi alţi arbitrii să accepte arbitrarea ca să rezolvăm odată această problemă? De preferinţă, arbitrii să nu fie nici români nici ruşi. De aproape o lună pierd timpul cu articolul ăsta, aş avea alte lucruri mai bune de făcut. Dă-mi măcar un sfat despre cum se procedează în cazuri din astea.--MariusM 16:38, 9 October 2006 (UTC)

GDP e 108 BN EUR Economy of Romania

BUCHAREST, Romania The Romanian Cabinet on Friday approved a 2007 draft budget, with an estimated deficit of 2.8 percent of gross domestic product, Prime Minister Calin Popescu Tariceanu said.

The planned deficit reflects a lack of agreement between Romanian authorities and the International Monetary Fund, which urged the government this week to balance the budget to keep a growing current account deficit under control.

But Tariceanu said the budget deficit was narrow enough to meet EU criteria of 3 percent of GDP and maintain economic stability.

"Romania had its best economic evolution in decades when we didn't have an agreement with the IMF. We proved that we could manage Romania's economy in a way that is now appreciated by the IMF and by rating agencies which have been improving the country's rating," Tariceaunu said.

Romania's standby agreement with the IMF collapsed last year due to disagreements on taxation, monetary policy and budget issues, with the government rejecting the IMF's suggestions to raise the value-added tax from to 22 percent from 19 percent to slow down a rapidly rising consumption and balance the budget.

Romania has a budget surplus of 1.6 percent for the first nine months of 2006, but plans to spend it on infrastructure projects and have a budget deficit of 2.5 percent at the end of the year, a plan criticized by the IMF.

Tariceanu said the country, which is scheduled to join the European Union in 2007, would contribute €1.1 billion (US$1.38 billion) to the EU budget, and also plans to spend heavily on education, public health and developing its transport infrastructure.

According to the draft, Romania hopes to receive €2.26 billion (US$2.83 billion) from the EU, but the EU aid depends on which projects the bloc approves for financing.

Romania's gross domestic product is estimated to grow by 6.4 percent in 2007 to reach 381 billion lei (€108 billion; US$135.3 billion), with inflation estimated to slow to 4.5 percent from about 5.7 percent this year.

After deep recessions in the 1990s, Romania's economy has been growing rapidly since 2000, with the GDP expected to grow by 7 percent this year.

http://www.iht.com/articles/ap/2006/10/13/business/EU_FIN_ECO_Romania_Budget.php

Violare 3RR de Mauco

Am făcut raport pentru 3RR violation de William Mauco

Ai putea rezolva să se aplice regulile Misplaced Pages în acest caz? În alte 2 cazuri mai vechi cu acelaşi personaj (raportate tot de mine), a scăpat numai cu avertisment , în timp ce Greier a primit ban o săptămînă pentru 3RR. Aş vrea să cred că la Misplaced Pages regulile se respectă şi sînt aceleaşi pentru toţi.--MariusM 20:52, 20 October 2006 (UTC)

A check of the edit record of the article in question will show that the 4 edits are not reverts. They are different, each one with an improvement over the other. They take into account a continuing discussion and critique in Talk. As such, they are not 3RR but the normal editing and evolution of an article based on feedback from others. - Mauco 02:04, 21 October 2006 (UTC)

In a follow-up, I noticed some highly suspect and unethical behavior by MariusM in this article, in clear violation of WP:SOCK which as you know is official policy. Among other things, it deals with meatpuppets and states that meat puppets are treated similarly to sock puppets. They should not be solicited to circumvent things like 3RR restrictions which are in place for a reason. Quote: "It is considered highly inappropriate or unacceptable to advertise Misplaced Pages articles that are being debated in order to attract users with known views and bias, in order to strengthen one side of a debate." Nevertheless, this is what User:MariusM did here: at 22:59. He wrote in Romanian so English-only readers would not understand the request. He explained that he needed User:EvilAlex to delete a paragraph so that he (MariusM) wouldn't be caught for WP:3RR. Then, at 23:25, EvilAlex did as he was told with a misleading edit comment. Minutes later, at 23:31, MariusM then returned and deleted the evidence of his request, overwriting it with a meaningless comment on something else and a misleading edit log entry. - Mauco 02:47, 21 October 2006 (UTC)

Mauco, you enjoy playing with meatpuppets . Don't pretend you are virgin. You are one of my teachers about how to work on Misplaced Pages, as I have little experience here.--MariusM 08:49, 21 October 2006 (UTC)

Observ la tine, Ronline, comportament de politician. Nu te interesează principiile Wikipediei ci crearea unei imagini proprii de "moderat", care să-ţi aducă voturi la alegeri de administrator. Din cauza nerespectării principiilor, unii editori valoroşi s-au retras din Misplaced Pages, şi e păcat.--MariusM 09:07, 21 October 2006 (UTC)

Rugămintea către Alex era după ce făcusem raportul 3RR, pentru a repara ceea ce Mauco stricase încălcînd 3RR. N-am folosit la adresa lui Mauco expresia "vandal rus propagandist KGB" ci doar "Vandal care refuză medierea", ceea ce e corect dat fiind că refuză medierea la Transnistrian referendum, 2006 (şi la acest articol am folosit expresia). Încearcă să nu te bizui pe zvonuri ci pe fapte--MariusM 09:42, 21 October 2006 (UTC)

I take offense at all of these accusations. Please check my editing record and then point out specific errors, instead of labelling me with smear. Being labelled a KGB propagandist is particularly hurtful and not based in fact. It is also in violation of the Misplaced Pages policy against personal attacks, WP:NPA. If this continues, I will simply delete all of these entries and may be forced to report the users who make them. - Mauco 15:49, 21 October 2006 (UTC)

Tipic straw man argument. Mauco, if you claim I labelled you as KGB propagandist, please provide proofs. There are other users who arrive at this conclusion, I don't know if they are right. You claim you understand Romanian, than you should understand also the message I wrote to Ronline.--MariusM 09:37, 22 October 2006 (UTC)

Your sig

Please remove the images from your signauture per WP:SIG. Thank you.  Jorcoga  00:42, 21 October 2006 (UTC)

Your message

I have responded to your 3RR query on the Administrators noticeboard. I was initially mistaken about a small piece of information, but I hope you can see that my edits from there on have altered my previous wording. Thank you. Bobo. 10:13, 21 October 2006 (UTC)

Any case where there is involved a manipulation or change in available information is going to be a tricky one. I'd say it would be much easier to cool things down at this stage by discussing and avoiding problems with the available information. Bobo. 10:18, 21 October 2006 (UTC)

Hey, thanks for contacting me! I'm so proud... my talk page has been so lonely :(

I don't see a previous version, so no block (I see one insertion, that being the previous version, and three reverts). The changes, however, are insubstantial, in my opinion, and had he inserted the information again in that or a similar form I certainly would've. As it stands, the situation is over and I'd content myself with "YOU! YOU! Stop that business right now and get back to constructive editing!" I also agree with Centrx's stance, which is that they're both being difficult and if one was blocked, they both should be. Basically, you're doing fine, keep up the good work :) Snoutwood (talk) 07:43, 22 October 2006 (UTC)

Ab-so-lutely! Snoutwood (talk) 07:53, 22 October 2006 (UTC)

Raport 3RR

Am primit şi eu 3RR report de la Mauco . El a încălcat regula de 3 ori şi a scăpat, îs curios dacă eu voi fi blocat la prima abatere, ca să mi se confirme impresia că la Misplaced Pages se aplică dublu standard. Lui Mauco i-ai luat apărarea, sînt curios dacă-mi iei apărarea şi mie, domnule politician. Cum n-am primit atenţionare prealabilă, cred că nu se califică pentru blocare conform regulilor Wiki.--MariusM 09:06, 24 October 2006 (UTC)

Am reţinut punctul tău de vedere: "I do, however, issue a strong warning to User:EvilAlex and User:MariusM". Bineînţeles, nu şi pentru Mauco (care e la a 4-a încălcare a 3RR). EvilAlex n-a avut nici un raport contra lui într-un an de lucru la Misplaced Pages, vrei să-i dai warning fără să se fi făcut raport întîi. Nu crezi că-ţi încalci atribuţiile (sau ţi s-a urcat la cap funcţia de admin?)? Fă întîi raport contra lui EvilAlex, dacă crezi necesar, şi lasă alt administrator să hotărască (dar informează şi partea în cauză). Nu fă pe prostul că acum ai descoperit mesajele dintre mine şi EvilAlex, ele au fost discutate cu 1 zi înainte în celălalt raport 3RR despre Mauco, în care am explicat contextul. Cui foloseşte ca din articolele despre Transnistria să fie eliminată singura persoană care chiar s-a născut acolo (mai precis la Tighina, dar şi aceasta e stăpînită de Transnistria) şi a cărui familie încă locuieşte acolo? Wikipediei, în nici un caz.--MariusM 12:05, 24 October 2006 (UTC)

P.S. Consider folosirea limbii române în user page-uri ceva absolut firesc. N-am de gînd să mă las intimidat de şovinismul anglo-saxon. Nu am văzut să existe o politică oficială a Wikipediei englezeşti împotriva altor limbi pe user page-uri şi cred că doar userul respectiv are dreptul să se declare nemulţumit.--MariusM 12:05, 24 October 2006 (UTC)

The point was not the communication in Romanian. The point was the switching between English and Romanian. When you talk teaming up on pages like the now-deleted Heaven of Transnistria, when you did your to-do list together, when you solicited 3RR skirting, and when you agreed to write emails back and forth; all of that was in Romanian. Then when you talk about more innocent and benigh subjects, all of that was in English. When you covered up the Romanian-language langauge collussion, just a few minutes after the act, this was blanked by overwriting it bland, non-committal comment to each other in English.

It is behavior like this which automatically would make anyone think that something not-so-Kosher is going on, and assume bad faith, contrary to the normal Wikiprinciple of WP:AGF. All of that could have been avoided by being open and consistent. For instance, just communicate in English (since this is English wikipedia, and you have to understand that most admins and other users are not familiar with Romanian). Or, if you prefer your own native language, then at least stick to it. What makes the alarm bells ring is not the use of Romanian, but the suspicious switch between Romanian for the "iffy" measures and the use of English for the rest. - Mauco 13:51, 24 October 2006 (UTC)

Belgrade

Thanks for reverting the vandalism (LBGT section) on Belgrade. We've had a problem with one guy very obstinately vandalising that section for months. I also replied to your vote on the here. --estavisti 18:10, 25 October 2006 (UTC)

At the FAC page for Belgrade, you opposed because of copyright problems with some of the photos and their layout. I (believe I have) fixed both problems, would you see the article and comment again? Nikola 21:52, 28 October 2006 (UTC)

Vot

M-as bucura daca ai lua pozitie in alegerile de admin care tocmai au loc pe wiki romana. --Mihai Andrei 20:25, 31 October 2006 (UTC)

Anti-racism campaign

Hi Ronline, being aware of your desire to create and develop articles related to diversity and minorities in Romania, I'd wonder whether you could somehow manage to transform this () campaign, aimed to rid Romanian football of racism, into a valid Misplaced Pages article. Examples of existing articles regarding anti-racist initiatives in the world of football include Show Racism The Red Card and Stand Up Speak Up. It'd be great if you could look into it, seeing how you seem to wish to raise awareness of minority-issues and promote tolerance in Romania, and considering that this campaign has already received some attention nationwide. Thanks. - Anclation 16:49, 2 November 2006 (UTC)

Thanks, the article turned out great. Would be great to have it in Romanian as well, sooner or later, but only when you have time of course. - Anclation 09:39, 4 November 2006 (UTC)

Probleme cu 3RR

Iar te deranjez Ronline. Am făcut azi alte 2 rapoarte pentru încălcarea 3RR de Mauco, la 2 articole diferite şi

Administratorul rus Alex Bakharev l-a absolvit pe Mauco în amîndouă cazurile.

Primul caz (Sheriff) Nu-l blochează pe Mauco, spune doar ca a protejat articolul. Pretinde că amîndoi am încălcat 3RR, de fapt doar Mauco a încălcat. A băgat ; în DIFFurile incriminatoare, ca să nu mai funcţioneze legăturile.

Al 2-lea caz (Transnistria) Iarăşi îl iartă pe Mauco pe motiv că a protejat articolul (da, l-a protejat, dar în varianta care-i convine lui Mauco). Iarăşi bagă ; în DIFFuri ca să nu mai funcţioneze legăturile. Mauco a eliminat din comentariul meu aşa zise atacuri personale , dar de fapt n-am folosit vreun limbaj nepotrivit, am spus că e “edit warrior” (dovedit prin desele 3RR rapoarte), că “is pushing his POV” pro-expansionismul rus (ceea ce e adevărat) şi, cel mai important, că e colaborator al publicaţiei on-line “Tiraspol Times” ceea ce e 100% adevărat – vezi sfîrşitul acestui articol - de altfel a fost un articol în publicaţia britanică "The Economist" despre eforturile regimului de la Tiraspol de a-şi face propagandă pe internet şi cred că Tiraspol Times şi Mauco sînt parte din acest efort. Dacă doreşti îţi dau informaţii mai amănunţite.

Deci, numai azi Mauco a încălcat 3RR de 2 ori şi nu e blocat. A mai încălcat regula de 4 ori şi tot fără urmări. Ce părere ai? (mă interesează inclusiv părerea ta despre introducerea de ; în DIFFuri, ca să nu mai funcţioneze legăturile). Poţi interveni peste Bakharev şi face regulile respectate? Eu ştiu că eşti alofil declarat, dar fă excepţie de faptul că sînt român, fă-ţi treaba de admnistrator de a face respectate regulile Misplaced Pages (vezi că ruşii nu se sfiesc să ia parte în disputa asta). Iar articolul “Transnistria” te rog adu-l la forma de dinainte de intervenţia lui Mauco, să fie blocat în forma aceea, nu în forma dorită de Mauco, pînă mai discutăm pe talk page (mereu mi se zice să discut pe talk page, dar am discutat în prostie, vezi talk pageurile respective, care sînt mult mai lungi decît articolele propriuzise).

Raportul 3RR din 23 octombrie în încă "pending", dacă nu vrei să te bagi peste Bakharev poţi face o blocare pe raportul ăla.

Între timp observ că diferiţi administratori ruşi consideră că eu sînt problema --MariusM 03:13, 4 November 2006 (UTC)

ce conteaza daca el e cu gayyyiii la fel l-a sustinut si pe Nodu, pai de ce nu ii blochezi mai Ronline? Ai si uitat cine te-a ajutat sa ajungi Admin? Cine te-a propus? :) Treci la fapte M. si treci peste orgoliile tale si apuca-te si fa ceva util pentru Romania. 125.63.65.52 20:38, 4 November 2006 (UTC)

Scuză-mă că te-am pus în situaţii dificile, dar dacă eşti admin poartă-ţi crucea! De acord cu ţelul de a avea o enciclopedie bună, dar cred că Mauco e un obstacol în calea acestui ţel. Dacă şi alţi utilizatori - cazul lui EvilAlex, dar mulţi alţii - sînt contra lui Mauco e fiindcă şi-au dat seama ce hram poartă (de altfel, sînt şi nişte utilizatori baltici foarte vehemenţi în disputele cu Mauco, cred că o să renunţ la a discuta cu românii şi mă orientez pe baltici, sînt oameni mult mai serioşi şi îi interesează adevărul despre Transnistria mai mult decît pe români). "Încearcă să rezolvi problema prin discuţie", mă sfătuieşti, dar ai avut curiozitatea să te uiţi pe talk page-urile despre Transnistria, Sheriff (company), Renewal (Transnistria) şi altele pe această temă? Am discutat cu Mauco de îmi vine rău, repetă mereu aceleaşi argumente, e un trol. Acum vreo 10 zile i-am scris un mesaj lui EvilAlex după ce Mauco încălcase 3RR, să repare ce Mauco stricase prin încălcarea 3RR. A folosit mesajul ăla ca să scape de pedeapsă la 3RRul respectiv, dar mă întreb: în viitorul cincinal are Mauco dreptul să încalce 3RR de cîte ori vrea şi se poate scuza mereu cu acel mesaj dintre mine şi EvilAlex? Deocamdată scorul e 6-1 pentru Mauco, adică el a încălcat 3RR de 6 ori, eu 1 dată, iar ieri a fost 2-0 pentru el. Aşadar, nu sîntem amîndoi la fel de vinovaţi (3RR-ul meu e vechi, nu e ceva recent). Eu încerc să respect regulile, dar văd că la Wiki respectarea regulilor nu e la modă. "Administratorii care au comentat la 3RR sînt toţi foarte competenţi în domeniu". Păi ce comentarii au fost la cele 2 încălcări ale 3RR de ieri ale lui Mauco? Doar comentariul lui Alex Bakharev că amîndoi am încălcat 3RR, pe care apoi singur l-a şters că a văzut că nu e adevărat. Repet: ieri, singurul care a încălcat 3RR a fost Mauco (de 2 ori), nu mă lua cu comentariile la 3RR-ul de acum 10 zile. Ca să nu se mai întîmple probleme de 3RR trebuie să se blocheze cei vinovaţi. Apropo: pentru încălcarea mea de 3RR veche eu singur m-am suspendat de la Misplaced Pages mai mult de 24 ore (am pomenit asta la raportul 3RR respectiv). Nu te preocupa de imaginea României, ţi-am scris că nu-ţi cer să acţionezi ca român ci ca administrator la Misplaced Pages. Nu mi-ai răspuns ce părere ai despre acţiunea subtilă a lui Bakharev de a băga cîte o ";" în DIFF-urile cu încălcarea 3RR de Mauco, astfel încît lincurile să nu mai funcţioneze cum trebuie (le-am reparat eu mai apoi)--MariusM 00:55, 5 November 2006 (UTC)

English: Ti-am raspuns pe pagina lui Marius. Nu vreau sa te conving sa faci ceva impotriva convingerilor tale. Dar felul in care tu lipsesti si te eschivezi de la datoria ta fata de noi ceilalti ma enerveaza. Fa ce vrei, nu vreau sa te conving de nimic. O sa apelam la altii mai binevoitori, ca la tine nu se poate. Ia-o ca pe un repros, ti-a spus foarte bine Arthur pe tine mai mult de intereseaza gay-ii decat ce e legat de Romania. Bonaparte

Romanian: I replied to you on Marius' page. I don't want to convince you to do something against your conscience/beliefs. But the way in which you try to dodge away from you duty to us makes me angry. Do what you want, I don't want to convince you to anything. We will appeal to others who are more benevolent/willing, because with you it's not possible. Take this as a reproach, Arthur told you very well when he said that you are more interested in gays than that linked to Romania. Bonaparte

Romanian: Salut. N-am cum să-l blochez pe Mauco fiind că ar fi văzut ca o acţiune tendenţioasă. Plus că rolul meu aici nu este să îi "apăr pe români" la orice cost. În orice caz, ajutorul meu la "cauza românească" se vede prin alte feluri, mai paşnice, precum dezvoltarea articolelor despre sistemul de transport din Bucureşti (doar Bucureştiul şi Londra au articole aşa de complete în acest domeniu) şi chiar articole despre minorităţile rome şi LGBT ("gay-ii"), care spun lumii că în România există respect pentru minorităţi şi deci că suntem o societate tolerantă, deschisă şi "europeană". Pentru mine, asta ajuta românii mult mai mult decât polemici şi edit-war-uri despre Transnistria, care multe cu România nu prea are. Ronline ✉ 13:19, 5 November 2006 (UTC)

English: Hi. I can't block Mauco since this will be seen as a tendentious/hostile action. In addition, my role here is not to "protect Romanians" at all costs. In any case, my help to "the Romanian cause" is manifested in other, more peaceful ways, such as the development of articles related to Bucharest's transport system (only Bucharest and London have such complete articles in this field) and even articles about the Roma and LGBT minorities ("gays"), which tell the world that in Romania there exists respect for minorities and thus that we are a tolerant, open and "European" society. For me, this helps Romanians a lot more than polemics and edit-wars about Transnistria, with which Romania does not have many associations. Ronline ✉ 13:19, 5 November 2006 (UTC)

Romanian: Salut Ronline. A fost un semnal sa incepi sa-i ajuti asa cum ai promis. Cred ca esti destul de inteligent ca sa-i poti ajuta fara sa fie vazuta actiunea ta ca si una tendentioasa. Si Romania are cu paginile de acolo, pentru ca exista o minoritate, cea romaneasca pe care nu o apara nimeni. Cum ai tu grija de minoritatile de la noi, de ce nu ai apara chiar romanii nostri de acolo? Oriunde sunt romani ei trebuie protejati.--213.148.5.103 15:47, 5 November 2006 (UTC)

English: Hi Ronline. It was signal to start helping them as you promised. I think you're intelligent enough to help them without this being seen as a tendentious action. And Romania is related to those pages, because there exists a minority, the Romanian one, whom no-one protects. In the same way that you take care of our minorities, why don't you protect our Romanians from over there ? Everywhere where there are Romanians, thye must be protected. --213.148.5.103 15:47, 5 November 2006 (UTC), Translation by Ronline.

Ronline may I remind you that this is English wikipedia. On a personal note: your communication with banned troll is disgusting. `'mikkanarxi 18:39, 5 November 2006 (UTC)

I am not giving you any lessons. I am saying my opinon that your behavior is disgusting. Encouraging vicious trolls who do not show any remorse is deplorable. You may have al free speech you need, just as I have my right to exercise my option of free speech to say don't feed trolls. And if it is your will to disagree with community, then let community keep in mind that there are nationalistic troll feeders among admins. `'mikkanarxi 18:35, 6 November 2006 (UTC)

Making no judgement of the stuff above, I also request the conversation in English Misplaced Pages to be conducted in English. If Bonny needs to contact Ronline in private, he can use "email this user" button. I request this translated. I trust Ronline to translate this himself and there is no need to ask for a third party translation. --Irpen 05:04, 6 November 2006 (UTC)

You are preaching to deaf. Disrespect and disregard of community among quite few romanians is unbeatable. `'mikkanarxi 19:07, 6 November 2006 (UTC)

And what about you miky? you started your anti-romanian capaign more then one year ago...community will bann you..

Terminology

Ronline, haven't you designed the articles for various ethnic communities in Romania to include mentions of their immediate successors? I mean, isn't "Albanians of Romania" synonymous with "Albanian Romanian" for all logical purposes? does wikipedia ever separate the two terms? Dpotop has since been creating an article on "Greek Romanian" separate from "Greeks of Romania" (I have since redirected it, but I'm bound to mmet a protest). Please, let's establish clear criteria once and for all, and not toy around with the obvious - I especially resent such measures because users who initiate them do not even bother with consistency (as it is, "Greeks of Romania" features both criteria, because all he has created was a pitiful stub!). Dahn 14:47, 8 November 2006 (UTC)

Thank you. On the issue of minorities: I do not know if the mention of separating the two terms within the article is stringent (consider that people who are simply married to an xRomanian have represented xRomanians in Parliament...), and it may turn out to be self-evident to Anglo-Saxon eyes (and I personally am not convinced that it is a stringent requirement from even the rather whimsical Romanian perspective); it could, however, be referred to in the lead.

On the issue of Gret-Greater, I agree with that (as I was just telling Dpotop). Of course, the name of the party would not implicate the notion in the least, and we would have to explain the discrepancy on the party page (or both pages). Currently, both articles give "Great" as an alternative. Dahn 11:40, 10 November 2006 (UTC)

Please evaluate an edit

Hi, Ron. Dahn, consider this edit of an anonymous to be a serious personal attack and asks me to investigate. I do not read Romanian. Is it really a personal attack? Is it a serious one? Is it involved the dispute over Mircea Eliade? Alex Bakharev 23:41, 10 November 2006 (UTC)

Thanks, Ron. Dahn thinks that the anonim is User:Timor Stultorum. I gave Timor a warning and think that it is enough at the moment since it is his first civility offense as far as I can tell. Alex Bakharev 23:57, 10 November 2006 (UTC)

Hi. Though nobody asked my version of the facts I'll try to expose it briefly. Several weeks ago Dahn and I engaged in a debate whether Mircea Eliade art suffers from "undue weight". The exchanges have been animated, yet never uncivil. Then, Dahn accused me of being Azotlichid. I am not Azotlicht, nor am I any other user. Few days ago, Dahn displayed a text from his archives, accusing me of being the author. I am not the author of this personal attack.

Since it appears that in my case the burden of proof has been reversed and accusations are taken for granted, it's me who has to proof innocence. Therefore I am courteosly asking for a checkuser in both cases: Azotlichid and "Cosma from LA". After reading the latter I can understand why Dahn hates me. However, it was not me, for God's sake ! Being a Romanian and being engaged in a debate with Dahn doesn't make me automatically suspect of attacking him personally. Since Dahn is often involved in conflicts, following the logic of accusation = condemnation, I risk to be the culprit of every further "disruptive behavior" against Dahn. Thank you, --Timor Stultorum 16:21, 13 November 2006 (UTC)

Admin abuse on meta, any suggestions?

Hello Ronline,

One admin (I presume), User:Millosh has blocked me on meta for one day. He is POV -pushing some nonsense over the fact that the Moldovan nation is in the process of merging with the Romanian one (sic!), and that the Moldovan language is very-very different from Romanian. You can see it here meta:Wikimedia_projects_are_not_for_nation-building. I tried to edit and explain what's wrong, but the guy simply blocked me. I think he's trying to push some Montenegrin wikipedia, and is drafting wikipedia policies allowing it.

It's the first time I'm blocked, and it's probably a case of blatant POV-pushing by an admin on meta on policy issues.

Can you advise me? Can you do smth against this guy? If I didn't understand his position well, tell me and I'll try again. :/ Dpotop 18:05, 14 November 2006 (UTC)

Thanks. Dpotop 10:22, 16 November 2006 (UTC)

Another remark: I'm still blocked on meta. Millosh blocked me on nov 14, with a message saying he blocked me for one day. One day passed, and I'm still blocked. Here is the block log. It's interesting to see that he blocked another guy on Nov 13, on the same "Montenegrin wikipedia" issue, and the other was unblocked immediately. Dpotop 10:48, 16 November 2006 (UTC)

How does a policy draft get adopted?

I refrained from interfering with Millosh for now. I don't have the means: the guy seems to be ready to do anything, and he's got the support of the "language committee" guys, most of whom push obscure languages. It's a sort of "coalition of the willing". :)

However, I'd like to understand at which point I can intervene to ammend the proposal? Is there a vote? Who decides policy, and how? I can bring logical arguments, but cannot fight extremism. However, I believe the project should not pass into policy with the current phrasing about the Moldovan language, if only because it's false. Dpotop 18:37, 17 November 2006 (UTC)

ps: Did you see Bonaparte was unblocked?

Metroul Bucureşti

Hi Ronline, can you please help with the Bucharest Metro article concerning the planned merger of the RATB & Metrorex ticket systems? I'm not in Bucureşti or România at the moment so i can't help. Thanks, Simon. -Swarve 08:30, 17 November 2006 (UTC)

3RR

Sînt probleme cu 3RR. Poţi rezolva asta?

My RfA

Thank you for the ringing endorsement and for graciously setting aside our talk-page wrangling in deciding how to vote. Se pare că pierd de data asta dar vă apreciez sprijinul. Biruitorul 03:40, 29 November 2006 (UTC)

Salut

Salut Ronline, vezi ca putoare de FunkyFly iarasi editeaza datele economice ale Romaniei. --89.35.79.2 21:09, 30 November 2006 (UTC)

Yeah, so 1. It is Bonaparte. 2. My edits are sourced, check the links.   /FunkyFly.talk_  21:14, 30 November 2006 (UTC)

Gloria Jean's

Gloria Jean's

I've added the "{{prod}}" template to the article Gloria Jean's restaurants, suggesting that it be deleted according to the proposed deletion process. All contributions are appreciated, but I don't believe it satisfies Misplaced Pages's criteria for inclusion, and I've explained why in the deletion notice (see also "What Misplaced Pages is not" and Misplaced Pages's deletion policy). Please either work to improve the article if the topic is worthy of inclusion in Misplaced Pages, or, if you disagree with the notice, discuss the issues at Talk:Gloria Jean's restaurants. You may remove the deletion notice, and the article will not be deleted, but note that it may still be sent to Articles for Deletion, where it may be deleted if consensus to delete is reached, or if it matches any of the speedy deletion criteria. Postcard Cathy 04:16, 8 December 2006 (UTC)