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User:Mjroots, User:SamHolt6, User:Dumelow: I am amazed at how this article expanded with your work! I have a question, since I am not good with copyright. Can the image in Tehran Times , of the ship in better times, be uploaded? The bottom of the page says "All Content by Mehr News Agency is licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution 4.0 International License.". There is also video and images after the strike (the whole superstructure is gone): , but I can't find licensing for that yet. Vici Vidi (talk) 16:29, 11 May 2020 (UTC)

CC4.0 means we can copy across to Commons. Use {{Mehr}} to attribute the correct licence. Mjroots (talk) 16:35, 11 May 2020 (UTC)
Uploaded: pre-accident and burning total loss. Vici Vidi (talk) 05:30, 12 May 2020 (UTC)

DYK nomination

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The result was: withdrawn by nominator, closed by The Squirrel Conspiracy (talk04:15, 13 May 2020 (UTC)

( ) ]Konarak burning after being hit by missile
  • ... that the Iranian support vessel Konarak was struck by a missile during training on 10 May 2020, killing 19 of its crew?"Nineteen sailors have been killed and 15 others injured in an accident involving Iranian naval vessels in the Gulf of Oman, Iran's navy has said. Iranian media reported that the support ship Konarak was hit by a new anti-ship missile being tested by the frigate Jamaran during an exercise on Sunday.""Iranian sailors killed in 'friendly fire' incident". BBC News. 11 May 2020. Retrieved 11 May 2020.
    • ALT1:... that the Iranian support vessel Konarak has since been converted into a combatant vessel armed with anti-ship missiles? "Veel van deze schepen van Hendijanklasse, waaronder dus de Konarak, zijn namelijk door de Iraanse marine recent zwaar bewapend, en voorzien van antischipkruisvluchtwapens." Which translates as "Many of these ships of the Hendijan class, including the Konarak, have recently been heavily armed by the Iranian navy and are equipped with anti-ship cruise missile." from: Karremann, Jaime (11 May 2020). "Raket van Iraans fregat treft Iraanse patrouilleboot: 19 doden" . Marine Schepen (in Dutch). Retrieved 11 May 2020.

Created by Dumelow (talk), Vici Vidi (talk), Mjroots (talk) and SamHolt6 (talk) . Nominated by Dumelow (talk) at 14:27, 11 May 2020 (UTC).

Withdrawing, this article has now been featured on "In the News" and so is ineligible for DYK (Eligibility rule 1e) - Dumelow (talk) 13:32, 12 May 2020 (UTC)
"Mehr news is creative commons" -- I am not familiar with Mehr but I can't see the CC license anywhere on their front page. What makes you say so? Can you point me to their licensing page please? -- Wesha (talk) 18:54, 12 May 2020 (UTC)

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Nearly double the number of crew were killed or injured

It might be worth mentioning how 19 were killed and 15 injured when the boat's compliment is only 15 crew according to the infobox. Where did the other 19 people come from? †dismas†| 16:29, 12 May 2020 (UTC)

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Merger proposal

I propose to merge Konarak vessel incident into Iranian support vessel Konarak#2020 friendly-fire incident. This article already contains more information than the stand alone article. 203.185.249.147 (talk) 01:41, 13 May 2020 (UTC)

1- There are 3 other languages that have separate article for Incident and the Support Vessel. Merging two articles messes the links. 2- Some users in favor of merge have mentioned that if there was a different country maybe they would vote for not merging the articles, I am not sure if this a definition of bias based on nation that the incident occurred in. 3- This is a developing matter yet, I believe that keeping the articles separate will keep the organizing relevant information better.--F4fluids (talk) 19:34, 14 May 2020 (UTC)

There should be a completely different section under the page Iranian support vessel Konrak containing most of this information. Ringo Asinal - Nocead12345 (talk) 15:56, 13 May 2020 (UTC)

  • Support the merge as proposed. Merging will keep information together. Semper Fi! FieldMarine (talk) 13:13, 14 May 2020 (UTC)
  • Support merger either way - No disrespect intended to the author of this, but it's a short article, with no major further information is likely to come to light to expand it or make it massively notable. Merge either way - Iranian support vessel Konarak into this would probably be best, as it's a non-notable ship, but the other way round is fine too. By the way, whatever is happening, shouldn't this be linked on the Main Page? Sir Magnus has spoken! (So can you!) 15:57, 14 May 2020 (UTC)
  • Support the merge as proposed. If this were a collision from a more transparent nation, subsequent reports on its causes and news coverage might be generated, but I'd be surprised if that were the case for Iran. Given that, it seems most reasonable to merge the two. WhinyTheYounger (talk) 18:16, 14 May 2020 (UTC)
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