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Adam Reimar?
Why is there a picture man called Adam Reimar who was allegedly questioned about the raid even though there is no source or evidence suggesting so? It looks like some guy just uploaded his pic to the page. Alexgmcm (Not signed in)
No raid was mentioned in the article, so why is there a picture referencing it? 66.190.69.243 05:03, 12 January 2007 (UTC)
Sourcing
Are there any sources on the feud with prank callers? Hal Turner took down most of the pages that started this mess, threads on 4chan's /b/ die in an hour or two, and the thread on 7chan's /i/ aren't going to stay up forever. We should find a some reliable sourcing on this "lol Internet war". --Transfinite 17:27, 29 December 2006 (UTC)
Not a neutral source but its a source: http://www.encyclopediadramatica.com/index.php/Hal_Turner Take the ******* out of the middle, its blocked by wiki. SACP 09:00, 31 December 2006 (UTC)
Encylopedia Dramatica is blacklisted at the software level and banned by the arbitration commitee. I was hoping for something that can actually be cited. --Transfinite 19:18, 31 December 2006 (UTC)--Transfinite 05:07, 1 January 2007 (UTC)
I cleaned up the citations with Template:Web cite. I had a edit conflict with User:Jbs36, I just copy-pasta'd copy-pasted the content in. (as a side note, this is what I do with my New Year's Eve?) --Transfinite 04:59, 1 January 2007 (UTC)
I meant to mention this, I removed the link to the stormfront forums, since online forums are not reliable sources. Anyway, the fewer "Illegal in Germany" warnings, the better. --Transfinite 05:07, 1 January 2007 (UTC)
Found this on the 4chan article: . An actual reliable source. --Transfinite 04:33, 9 January 2007 (UTC)
Here's a blog from the POV of the Channel Network: http://turnerchan.blogspot.com/. It provides a pretty good account of the events leading up to the conflict. --Anonymous
"Dear Hal Turner"
I removed a section from the section "Feud with prank callers" that starts out with "Dear Hal Turner". That section has serious NPOV problems, and also there are copyright violation concerns, since it is a copy of something posted on 7chan.org's /i/ board . I don't like Hal Turner myself, but there is no need to call him "an uppity little bitch". --Transfinite 23:30, 1 January 2007 (UTC)
Article listed for deletion
Please make appropriate comments here. Ramsquire 18:43, 2 January 2007 (UTC)
Why delete this article? It has been decided that it is A. Notable and B. actively involved with a current event with large legal/political ramifications. More interesting than the feud itself is the application of DDoS law to a large group of people. --Eyaw Nayr 19:29, 3 January 2007 (UTC)
- There AfD has been delisted. The result (obviously) was keep. When the AfD was originally listed, there was a question of his notability. However, this issue has been decided. Ramsquire 19:46, 3 January 2007 (UTC)
Hal Turner calls for political assassinations?
This article is a must read. Assuming that, uhh, WingNutDaily is a reliable source, some of this should probably go into the article. --Cyde Weys 17:34, 3 January 2007 (UTC)
Well, Hal claims that he opines about the assassinations of elected officials. The border between opining and actually advocating is somewhat fickle. This is just my opinion, so take it as you will. Ulairix 20:53, 3 January 2007 (UTC)
Mr. Turner seems to be openly calling for the assassination of members of Congress if a bill he believes to be wrong is passed. His reported words do not allow much interpretation. As these seem to violate several US federal laws (IANAL but Sections 351, 2384 and 2385 all seem to apply), these statements calling members of Congress who vote for laws granting 'amnesty' for illegal aliens "A DOMESTIC ENEMY" and saying they "WILL BE CONSIDERED A LEGITIMATE TARGET FOR ASSASSINATION" or "Sorry to have to be so blunt, but the country is in mortal danger from our present government and our liberty is already near dead because of this government. If you are too stupid to turn things around with your vote, there are people out here like me who are willing to turn things around with guns, force and violence. We hope our method does not become necessary" seem to be important. --24.62.55.11 07:29, 4 January 2007 (UTC)
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