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10 May 2021

– This SPI case is closed and will be archived shortly by an SPI clerk or checkuser.

Suspected sockpuppets

Heba Aisha (talk · tag · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · spi block · block log · CA · CheckUser(log) · investigate · cuwiki)

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Note: this SPI contains Cross wiki evidence.

Heba is a sockpuppet of Editor wikip6 I've compiled a list of heavy behavioural evidence and similar interests to show how the blocked sock wikip6 is operating the new heba account.

Heba account  was created  on 29 june 2020 after the previous sock was blocked  on 12 june 2020 within 2weeks you can compare this user utility user interaction report The interests are very similar related to kushwaha castes and overlap on many articles heavily .

• Wiki6 has uploaded the sketch of politician Jagdeo Prasad  And as expected heba also uploaded a image of  Jagdeo Prasad's statue image  similiar interest in politicians both have edited Upendra Kushwaha page and Politics of Bihar(200+ edits by heba and around 60 by wiki6) extensively.  (refer to user interaction report as mentioned above)

• Heba's uploaded image of a folk deity Chauharmal was clicked in Hajipur near patna bihar from VIVO 1714 on 14:48, 19 September 2020, Wikip6's  Jagdeo Sketch was also clicked in Hajipur same area From VIVO 1714 on 02:32, 19 September 2020  , it can only be possible that wiki6 and heba both were at present in same area on Same day using Same mobile device , if Heba account is operated by wikip6's owner.This is conclusive evidence.(Note :please check the image links and see their information in the bottom of file page and these coordinates are public and uploaded by heba and wiki6 respectively on their file pages,anyone can see them at anytime.)

• Heba's Image of her parrot and the dog image which was also edited by wiki6 within two hours of upload were both clciked from VIVO 1714 on 17 September 2020 and wikip6's Jagdeo sketch was also clicked from VIVO 1714  SAME DEVICE model on 21:05, 18 September 2020 . two images uploaded in less than 24 hours of eachother from same device cant just be a coincidence. both are accounts are operated by same person with same device !

• When hebas created page about bihar under lalu yadav was nominated for deletion   wikip6 suddenly came online out of 5 months of inactivity and requested  rudra yaduvanshi  on his talk page to contest deletion on hindi wikipedia heres the translation of the statement by wiki6 "i want to tell you that on English wikipedia the article "Bihar under Lalu Prasad Yadav" has been nominated for deletion, if you want you can vote "support" in the discussion so that the article doesn't get deleted." ,similiar behaviour to Heba as heba has also invited quite few people to contest deletion through their talkpage she was also called out by Bishonen for Canvassing on her talkpage.both are engaging in cross wiki sock-meat puppetry, If wiki6 is a different user, how did find out about deletion nomination and what's the need for inviting other users(exactly like heba) to contest it if he isn't connected to that article, he is blocked on en.wiki and his account was dormant too.

• the user: Editor Wikip6 has added the same information that purbiyas were considered as pseudo rajputs the exactly same information and source was added by heba on bihari rajput page aswell

• And heba aisha has contributed immensely to kushwaha page and blocked sock also has immensely edited article aswell both have edited article immensely in span of 5months. (refer to user utility user interaction report for comparison.

• This confirmed blocked sock  of editor Wikip6 is calling  a user as "caste promoter" and using "ur" and "u" instead of standard you and your/youre writing style which is similar to heba as displayed on her talkpage where she refers to a user by ure and u on 12 july which is only 30days after the her previous account wikip6 was blocked

• heba uploaded this image of her dog on commons And suddenly  wikip6 came online on commons after 6 months of inactivity to edit the same picture within 2hour of heba uploading it this is a strong proof that once heba had uploaded the image she may have been automatically or accidentally logged out due to browsing commons after browsing en.wikipedia a very common bug,i myself has experienced it and then when she tried to log in she may have logged into her previous sockpuppet account as browser saves your login info and autofills it without noticing that she is logged in her previous account she edited her recently uploaded image (only 1hour after uploading) so this is the strongest indicator of her being a sockpuppet along with cross wiki sock- meatpuppetry as mentioned above .

• 'Other Cross Wiki Abuse : on hindi wiki both heba and editor wikip6 edited same article kayastha and heba restored the revision which was last edited by wiki6 this means heba preferred the version of her sockpuppet. Requesting for block as evidence is very strong.

• From the user interaction report and user page of editor wikip6 its obvious its her sockpuppet. Both accounts are from bihar, has contributed to bihar related pages including   extensive contributions to kushwaha and koeri page, according to his userpage , wikip6 is a "dog lover" heba also owns dogs and has uploaded quite a few images of her dogs aswell.   editor wiki6 has image of ashokan era piller on his user page underneath it the text states,"Hello,I have visited all the historical places associated with Mauryan empire"  the heba also has a quote extracted from an ashokan rock edit on her userpage aswell both seem  to be interested in Mauryan empire. Sikandar khan67 (talk) 10:57, 11 May 2021 (UTC)

Comments by other users

Accused parties may also comment/discuss in this section below. See Defending yourself against claims.

It doesn't make sense as the accused blocked sock has made edits only to a few caste articles. I have a different edit history and interest. Also, one such sockpuppet investigation against me in which someone brought the same accused sockpuppetr, checkuser and admins made it clear that we have no relation. Heba Aisha (talk) 23:11, 10 May 2021 (UTC)

Also, recently checkuser had shown possibility about the user who brought me here to be the sock of "Showbiz", Misplaced Pages:Sockpuppet investigations/Editor wikip6/Archive, here also I was proved innocent. Heba Aisha (talk) 23:17, 10 May 2021 (UTC)

You were not proved innocent the checkuser said "LukeEmily and Heba Aisha are Unrelated to each other" not the wikip6. CU admin didn't said anything between you and wikip6 as wikip6 was stale but as wikip6 has made edits as recently as 17feb im reopening this SPI as such so action can be taken. And those aren't few edits though you both have edited Kushwaha koeri and leaders from said castes extensively .

Everything you are taking is related to other sister project of wikipedia. I rarely contribute to them as i have issues with Hindi. I don't think admins or CU here are responsible for other sister projects. Also, all your claims are baseless. Heba Aisha (talk) 03:11, 11 May 2021 (UTC)

Also, I went through Koeri and Kushwaha related edits of sockmaster, you are accusing to be me. They are basically novice edits with lack of WP:Verifiability and also tend to glorify the community. My edits are completely different. Also, I have written many caste article from scratch. The sockmaster hasn't contributed to other caste articles. Heba Aisha (talk) 03:16, 11 May 2021 (UTC)

They aren't baseless the blocked sock of Wiki6 has edited and added same information about purbiyas (rajputs from eastern side) and them being considered "pseudo Rajput" by their western counterparts , this exactly same information was added by you aswell on bihari (eastern part of india) rajput page aswell. Sikandar khan67 (talk) 04:52, 11 May 2021 (UTC)

Based on above reading and knowledge of @Heba Aisha's editing pattern, I must say this looks like it can be a sock of @Heba Aisha. I too recommend to get this connection checked by checkuser. Sajaypal007 (talk) 04:55, 11 May 2021 (UTC)

Replying to Sikandar khan67 This is a very common information which i knew from my reading, on google search I found this book and just a simple line can't connect me to sock. Infact that article in present version is 80% my work. I didn't added that line only also many user copy stuff from any particular article to add into another.Heba Aisha (talk) 04:58, 11 May 2021 (UTC)
Replying to Sajaypal007 Sajaypal and I have been involved in bitter discussion at Rajput talk page along with LukeEmily. He was upset with our edits which led the page towards version he didn't preferred. Admins could see his comment on my talk page User talk:Heba Aisha#Hi, regarding your constant following of my edit which shows his dissatisfaction with me. Also many editors later also tried to bring him into WP:Canvassing to block or book me. User talk:Sajaypal007 is an evidence and the latest comment also talks about it. I am not replying to anyone as i have said, wat i had to say. It seems all those editors who were not satisfied with my edit are coordinating at this point of time to act against me. From my edit history reviewing admins can see that I was subjected to attacks by many caste Warriors in past. My talk page is testimony to that. Will like to leave it to admin as i haven't violated any policy and my behaviourial evidences with the accused sockmaster is not worth considering, if one look at wide areas i contribute. Heba Aisha (talk) 05:05, 11 May 2021 (UTC)

Actually let me make it simple. Bishonen blocked various editors who were POV pushing on Rajput caste related pages. There was a facebook group too. Now all of them have suddenly come on the same floor. Also regarding sockmaster, there is humangous difference between content I added on Kushwaha article and those added by him. Leaving it to admins to decide. Heba Aisha (talk) 05:35, 11 May 2021 (UTC)

Regarding my user page "Ashoka pillar That's ridiculous, I put it as I was inspired by quote from page of Kautilya3, he quotes Chanakya, I quote Ashoka. Plz stop this useless allegations, if you don't get solid proof. Heba Aisha (talk) 05:43, 11 May 2021 (UTC)

user:Bishonen can you please elaborate? Do you think that all of the evidence presented here is baseless and false? Please go through all of them and then put your judgement. Pinging user:Reaper Eternal ,user:Oshwah to atleast consider evidence presented.Sikandar khan67 (talk) 07:57, 11 May 2021 (UTC)
Regarding Jagdeo Prasad image The image of a notable person can be uploaded by many people. How it links me to the sock. Why don't you talk of 100s of other images which I uploaded where the sock has not made any edits. Choosing one two statement and one two images where unfortunately the sock met me is not going to prove anything. Why can't I doubt that the sock editor wikip6 is also a part of "your group" as you have done so much homework on me to get me blocked anyhow. ? Heba Aisha (talk) 09:06, 11 May 2021 (UTC)
Note to CU and admins there has been off wiki coordination in past by some of the Rajput caste related vandals in past through this facebook group. LukeEmily made me aware of this on my talk page. This happened when Anony20 was sanctioned. Some of the vandal accounts were old than mine. It is possible that all are targeting me. As the guy accusing me above has done a lot of homework for months (it seems) on my edits. It is possible that Editorwikip6 can share the same Geolocation as of theirs and possibly mine also as i am a resident of Bihar and subjecte interest of a these editors and sockmaster also points that they also belong to same state. In fact my Geolocations could be same as of Sikandar khan67 as he also seems to belong to same place. Heba Aisha (talk) 09:17, 11 May 2021 (UTC)

important evidence i have is that Heba's Image of her parrot was clicked from  VIVO 1714 on 08:40, 17 September 2020 and wikip6's Jagdeo sketch was also clicked from VIVO 1714  SAME DEVICE model on 21:05, 18 September 2020 . two images uploaded in less than 24 hours of eachother from same device cant just be a coincidence. both are accounts are operated by same person with same device ! Sikandar khan67 (talk) 12:25, 11 May 2021 (UTC)

Vivo and Xiomi have penetrated indian market to such an extent that you can see them in every hand. I use Xiomi and in my home there is vivo phone too. Infact, you can find them in every hand. Just look at trend of chinese electronics export into Indian market. It proves nothing. May be you are also using same device. Heba Aisha (talk) 09:22, 11 May 2021 (UTC)

Blablubbs and Bishonen, this is an example of "bad faith" accusation. Some time ago one of my article was nominated for delition by a WP:SPA. The user Sikandar khan67 being a one month old user, how does he know that much about me? It seems that in order to protect himself from accusations and to check his edits from being examined, the accusations are made. Heybata may be none other than Sikandar himself. Heba Aisha (talk) 11:44, 11 May 2021 (UTC)

Please dont divert the topic and i've already stated that what you're doing is a strawman fallacy and distraction fallacy on Misplaced Pages:Sockpuppet_investigations/Showbiz826, if you dont have any concrete evidence to defend yourself please dont make such arguments they neither help you or us. and you said a "Facebook group" is targeting you well going through its link its Not a Group but a page with very few (25 subscribers) and last post was in early December i can't understand how a small inactive PAGE with almost zero ( backed by the fact that mosts posts have zero likes or comments) interaction between its subscribers and other FB users is targeting you, and let alone me being a involved in it,and you have zero evidence to prove your exponential allegations made obvious faith which you're accusing me of and heres user interaction report between me and all of heybata's socks anyone can make out that we are noway related to eachother. Sikandar khan67 (talk) 12:33, 11 May 2021 (UTC)

You have not explained how do you know about that delition discussion ? It makes my doubt further strong. There is no doubt that you've been here with more accounts and now manipulating some of the wiki processes to book me. Also for a one month old account, such a wide knowledge about the discussions and edits i made is itself doubtful. Heba Aisha (talk) 13:12, 11 May 2021 (UTC)

There is a common pattern for the socks to edit in other area to get extended confirmed status and then resort to their target pages. I can see the barely 150 edits you have made are not useful and just done to increase your edit count. The target page is Rajput related pages where you removed sourced materials and that too with same reasons the socks like Monarcho-fascist and others of Showbiz826were doing. Heba Aisha (talk) 13:17, 11 May 2021 (UTC)
About user interaction report

• Some of the pages are edited by me and Sockmaster but content is different and also the sourcing and other stuffs. Since I edit Bihar related articles and it is common to browse through similar articles, the interactions happened. I cant see apart from Koeri and Kushwaha we ever interacted to edit heavily. Meanwhile, the sockmaster has edited only those two caste articles. I have written many articles from scratch which he never touched. It includes Paswan, Nishad, Dhanuk, Mallah, Teli etc. I have also created indian history and politics related article (more than 25+ User:Heba Aisha/Article created ), in which area sockmaster had no interest. Heba Aisha (talk) 13:34, 11 May 2021 (UTC)

CU from the investigation has already proven that im at different geolocation from the showbiz and please you're supposed to defend yourself against my allegations here not put allegations against me i think all youre doing is distracting me and trying to make arguments deeper and deeper which is something i've observed of you as you tend to argue a lot on topics which are not even related to the one at hand . I guess that's a just a attempt at distraction by making straw man arguments. So i think i shouldn't argue any further from now and waste my time.thank youSikandar khan67 (talk) 13:43, 11 May 2021 (UTC)

About tweaking my uploaded image by Sockmaster

• I have never cared about it. I know a lot of people follow my edits due to my area being a controversial one i.e Caste. Infact, recently also i recalled one such user saying this to me. Unfortunately he is blocked now, infact he also shared the place from where I have done my post graduation course. See this. Heba Aisha (talk) 14:04, 11 May 2021 (UTC)

About my edits on Hindi wikipedia

• Yes I reverted it to version by sockmaster, but just check the later addition on that article by novice editors. I don't prefer to write in Hindi and Wikip6 is an "Extended Confirmed User" there and also not blocked there. So it's common for anyone to edit to last best version. In similar way I usually revert vandalised article to version by established editors on english wikipedia. In fact everyone does that. Like here I reverted to version by another ECU. Heba Aisha (talk) 14:20, 11 May 2021 (UTC)

Regarding my edits and followed up edits by sockmaster

• Due to topic area i selected, a lot of people support and same number of people hate me, as you can see from my talk page. It is possible that like user i pointed above someone follows my edit and does changes in that. Wiki6 have done that and many others have also, i dont even recall, how many people abused me here on my talk page, same happens with other caste editors. Heba Aisha (talk) 14:38, 11 May 2021 (UTC)

(On allegations of cross wiki abuse :, Kayastha article on Hindi wikipedia is heavily edited and i have reverted it to best version one or two times. Its not only the version by wikip6 only, i have a habit of tracking past and the last edit made by an established editor is my preferred version, like here i did , when i reverted to version of such an editor. Heba Aisha (talk) 02:02, 12 May 2021 (UTC)

Regarding my invitations to other editors on delition discussion

• Rudra Yaduvanshi has been commenting on my talk page for a number of times.User talk:Heba Aisha #Yadav, I never chosed to reply (or support), if i had to collude with him, i must have engaged in discussion with him. I have already clarified that a lot of people follow my edits, some support and others oppose my edits on caste. There is possibility that Editor wikip6, Rudra yaduvanshi and Himanshu Kushwaha 01 are coordinating off wiki and may be they like what i do. But, let me tell, i have never tried to move away by this and infact i was one who opened sockpuppet investigation against him even after this love message. It will be kind if Blablubbs or any other CU check Geolocations of Himanshu Kushwaha 01 and Editor wikip6. I have a deep feeling that they share the same location or are anyhow related. There is possibility that, i may belong to same Geolocation. I have clarified already caste is an area, where a lot of people are interested.(Note: It was me who made Himanshu Kushwaha 01 blocked as i saw him involved in unconstructive edits) Heba Aisha (talk) 03:53, 12 May 2021 (UTC)

Going further, the user says clearly that he like my work and interestingly involved in same Kushwaha caste related articles like Editor wikip6, uses same surname (he might be a Kushwaha). Even after i opened sockpuppet investigation he posted this on an another user's talkpage, who was abusing me. Seriously, I don't like such a support which get me involved in accusation of sockpuppetry. Heba Aisha (talk) 04:19, 12 May 2021 (UTC)

About the image location at Patna

• Yes, image was clicked at Patna, which is capital of Bihar frequently visited by almost all students. I remember Himanshu Kushwaha calling himself a student of Patna University as well, i have already provided the account link above, one can search his interest also to be same. I got him blocked, same interest and one common location, which is most visited place in Bihar doesn't guarantee that i and he are same. Checking Geolocations of the editors I have mentioned above may provide a clear idea. Heba Aisha (talk) 06:45, 12 May 2021 (UTC)

When I visited patna I clicked other images too *+ I am a travel lover, this is from Saran, an another District of Bihar~, this is from Sonepur an another place . Out of numerous images i added, only one's location coincided. As Patna is capital and education hub here. Its not a clue, just a coincidence. Heba Aisha (talk) 07:53, 12 May 2021 (UTC)

Like Editor wikip6, i can see Himanshu Kushwaha 01 also edited Koeri, even Rashtriya Lok Samata Party, image of which, i added to wikipedia commons. Ironically, I opened a sockpuppet investigation against him and made him blocked. This clarifies I have no relation to any of them either wikip6 or Himanshu, we just share common interest, though a little bit. They're involved mostly in pov pushing at Kushwaha related pages. I have a wide area to contribute. Heba Aisha (talk) 07:58, 12 May 2021 (UTC)

Biggest proof of coordination by some editors against me-off wiki

• Interestingly, when i was checking love and hate massages on my talk page , i came across this, to my surprise, this is the same Sabre toothed tiger image, which Editor wikip6 had used on his user profile. This was according to me, by an attempt by him, to collude with him (may be, knowingly unknowingly my edits on Kushwaha or Koeri liked by him). The user was blocked soon by admins. Heba Aisha (talk) 13:28, 12 May 2021 (UTC)

by reading your comments of your reply at "Regarding Jagdeo Prasad image" it seems you're trying to accuse me or "some group which you think i m a part of" of  creating Editor wiki6 account (created on 23 april 2020 ) and then extensively editing Koeri and Kushwaha, Politics of Bihar etc,the said articles which will also be edited by you heavily in next 4months so i can "trap" your account which will be created in future on 29june 2020 in an SPI.  Totally makes sense.Sikandar khan67 (talk) 14:27, 12 May 2021 (UTC)

I am keeping my points, the above proof I Kept was not created today by me. Yes! I am targeted by few groups and supported by others. Above one is clearly related to sockmaster Editor wikip6. I joined wiki in COVId lockdown, and in june i am certainly not the only person to make account. Editing style says a lot. Sockmaster had done only non verifiable pov edits on those two articles and a sock should have done that too. My edits are supported by sources and are not contentwise same. I would say, a person from same caste may call it "insulting" to community as i added Shudra to Koeri, something which a pov pusher won't like for his caste. The edits which socks of Showbiz826 are doing are also related to remove derogatory shudra stuff from Rajput pages, which you also did. Heba Aisha (talk) 17:37, 12 May 2021 (UTC)

About Koeri article

• This was added by WP:GOCE volunteer Twofingered Typist and interestingly same content was added by Sockmaster~ it doesn't mean both are same. If we glance through google we will find similar sources and anyone will write what is available to us. I chose that article initially as it was incomplete and later i moved to others. Sockmaster in whole wikipedia career stuck to that only. Heba Aisha (talk) 17:53, 12 May 2021 (UTC)

Image of folk deity Chauharmal

• Hajipur is the only route which connect North Bihar and South Bihar through Mahatma Gandhi Setu via Patna. Anyone from south Bihar will have to cross at Hajipur to reach Patna. The Chauharmal statue, if you can look at the coordinates is located at the side of Mahatma Gandhi Setu road. There are multiple editors from this area active on wiki as I saw when I edit various Bihar related pages. Not all of them is me. Heba Aisha (talk) 06:13, 13 May 2021 (UTC)

Further, there is a deliberate attempt, which i can see to violate privacy and know locations of mine by this user which this statement clarifies:

it can only be possible that wiki6 and heba both were at present in same area on Same day using Same mobile device , if Heba account is operated by wikip6's owner.This is conclusive evidence.(Note : these coordinates are public and uploaded by heba and wiki6 respectively.)

I am not going to reply further on this. I have already clarified that i travel a lot within the state and in future, you can see many images from other parts of Bihar. I don't care about whether a blocked sock is also operating from there or not. This also solidifies my belief of off-wiki coordination against me to know about my real life location and reminds me of this particular editor, who was also interested in my location. Heba Aisha (talk) 06:28, 13 May 2021 (UTC)

Let me talk about some more editors whom i met here. It is easy to guess their location from edit history. Advaita2222, who came to me by this. Similarly, Himanshu Kushwaha 01 and his associate socks were also from same region of Patna-Hajipur as they said. Infact most of Biharis editors you will find are from this region. (proximity to capital Patna). Rest Bihar is rural. Heba Aisha (talk) 06:40, 13 May 2021 (UTC)

Admins plz, Look at this threatening messages:

, i know you are from bihar , you know alot and your contributions towards wikipedia, sometime i thinks you and other partner emily is paid hired editors joined wikipedia last year, also selective and baised content approach of your edits and reverting is also well known , wikipedia is aimed to provide information to needy ones not a platform for your hatered filled thoughts and vandals and baised approach towards a community , a lot of such stuff which you are referencing from books is leftist writers content and newly written from past 20 30 years , it is a sincere request to you to kindly stop this hatered and baised approach , we are in touch with respective cyber authorities from 10th january after filing a complaint to distrupt communal harmony by some wikipedia users over misuse of open source platforms to distrupt communal harmony

, from that blocked user Loneltrussia. Heba Aisha (talk) 06:50, 13 May 2021 (UTC)

Like i've said two times already please dont bring comments of other blocked users which aren't relevant to the topic at hand.and you yourself have uploaded those coordinates anyone can see that and know where you've clicked these images at.Sikandar khan67 (talk) 07:00, 13 May 2021 (UTC)

user:Blablubbs what about extremely similar behavioural evidence,please give it a look both have uploaded images from same device at same location aswell on same day Sikandar khan67 (talk) 10:08, 13 May 2021 (UTC)

I'm not arguing here but user:Blablubbs ip addresses do change very frequently and heba also uses three mobile devices so technical results can be different,any thank you so much co-operating.Sikandar khan67 (talk) 10:32, 13 May 2021 (UTC)

Comments by User:Eatcha

• Evidence :

1. https://commons.wikimedia.org/File:Baidyanath_Prasad_Mahto.jpg (deleted as copyvio, external link) - Uploaded by User:Heba_Aisha - uploaded on 7 December 2020
2. https://commons.wikimedia.org/File:Baidyanath_Mahto.jpg - uploaded by User:Editor_wikip6 - uploaded on 14 October 2020

The deleted image is from loksabhaph.nic.in/Members/MemberBioprofile.aspx?mpsno=4454. The article on the subject is Baidyanath Prasad Mahto, both the sock-master and accused have edited the page see xtools.wmflabs.org/articleinfo/en.wikipedia.org/Baidyanath_Prasad_Mahto. The article still uses the same image as on the loksabhaph.nic.in but locally stored on en-wiki as fair usage at File:Baidyanath Prasad Mahto MP.jpg.

• Both the accounts have an extensive copyright volation records on their wikimedia commons logs, see Commons:Commons:Deletion requests/Files uploaded by Heba Aisha. Upload logs on commons for HebaAisha and Editor_wikip6. I would like to point that the images of politicians uploaded by both the accounts are from the same location in India, particlulary Bihar (a state in India). WP:DUCK? -- Eatcha 20:17, 12 May 2021 (UTC)

• Also note that User:Heba_Aisha, used the pronoun "we" at Commons:Commons:Deletion requests/Files uploaded by Heba Aisha. Are they a group of people? -- Eatcha 20:25, 12 May 2021 (UTC)

I am recalling, while i was taking part in this discussion on commons. And gathering evidences to support that these image are fair. I noted that one user had in past uploaded the images of same set of politicians and others too in past, that got deleted due to same reasons. These are Member of Parliaments from Bihar and in past, due to complexity of GSDAP policy of government of India, many people have uploaded these Lok Sabha profile images, as i did. I can't find that user account right now on commons which uploaded many images of politician (actually from same place and of same set of people), but it will be helpful if someone place it here. Heba Aisha (talk) 21:02, 12 May 2021 (UTC)

On commons the image uploaded by me are from various location in Bihar. As I live here. As pointed above two of them could be from Patna. But I have uploaded from Vaishali district, , this also from Mahua, , this from Saran district, , this near Jandaha & this near National Highway 22. Basically, I travel and click. I visited Patna too and clicked there too. Heba Aisha (talk) 21:36, 12 May 2021 (UTC)

I was about to upload more images from Lok Sabha, but stuck after it was nominated for delition en masse. The images i uploaded included Baidyanath Prasad Mahto and several other figure apart from him. Currently 40 Member of Parliaments are from Bihar and its common that two people may upload same politicians. The sockmaster has also uploaded that particular image, but i uploaded other images also apart from that. Meanwhile, I can see his upload were in complete violation of Copyright policy, mine happened due to lack of understanding about "General Data Sharing and Accessibility Policy" (and usage of GODL-India license), something not understood by many established editors on commons and even reviewers have varying interpretation. One example is this image of Gautam Gambhir, from same website where i took images of politicians, but not deleted yet and my Ajay Nishad is in nomination. Heba Aisha (talk) 21:55, 12 May 2021 (UTC)

Baidyanath Prasad Mahto image

• If Editor Wikip6 had uploaded it and it is still there, why i needed to upload it once again. Baidyanath Prasad Mahto died this year, he was a Member of Parliament. Usually, when some notable people die, we see a lot of activity on their wikipedia articles. This is the reason that brought me there and as i was aware of "Fair Use" criteria, I uploaded that image. I can see from Wiki6 commons history that they've been engaged in gross WP:COPYVIO, I have already clarified, my images were deleted not due to Copyvio but " lack of understanding on GDSAP Policy of Government of India". Also "We" and "Our" are words used by me to denote such editors who are at my level of understanding about policies, connection to a group of people is overthinking. Heba Aisha (talk) 00:59, 13 May 2021 (UTC)

Pointing again towards this, I will like to say: Me and Wikip6 crossed way sometimes on Kushwaha caste related articles and images. Baidyanath Prasad Mahto is also a politician from same caste. But, I have contributed to people from other caste too. See the large number of images that i uploaded, which got deleted (they're of people of different caste), since Wiki6 must have followed me and liked what i do, and having blocked here, he chosed to come with a different account. Heba Aisha (talk) 01:27, 13 May 2021 (UTC)

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Comments by sajaypal007

• Heba Aisha added this image on Rajput page of english wikipedia on 03 Oct 2020 as her own work [

and on 8th Oct 2020, wikip6 added the same image on hindi wikipedia

• As I and Heba Aisha were discussing some controversial paragraphs on talk page of english wiki some of which were added by Heba Aisha, the user wikip6 during same period had added those controversial paragraphs on Rajput page of hindi wiki, I read all those additions and knew that this user must be Heba Aisha but I didn't know that he/she also edited english wiki with that same account otherwise I would have complained at that time.

• As pointed by another user that the account of Heba Aisha may be operated by a team, I must add one thing that I don't know whether they are team or an individual but its true that the account of Heba Aisha was almost always logged in because as soon as I made any edit or comments on talk page of Rajput page where we discussed for many weeks, whether I did it late night, early morning, evening or any other time, within 2-3 hours, he/she reverted that edit or replied to that comment.

• Finally I advise to apply WP:DUCK, "If it looks like a duck, swims like a duck, and quacks like a duck, then it probably is a duck". Sajaypal007 (talk) 06:48, 13 May 2021 (UTC)

Reply by Heba Aisha~ Do you forget the content LukeEmily added on Rajput article was added on other Rajput pages by Chariotrider555, if someone follows other editors, it is common to do so. In fact editors on Hindi wikipedia are just copying article and translating it in Hindi to create content there. Example is Kurmi & Hindi Kurmi, Ditto copied. Heba Aisha (talk) 06:57, 13 May 2021 (UTC)

Clerk, CheckUser, and/or patrolling admin comments

• See Misplaced Pages:Sockpuppet investigations/Showbiz826.--Bbb23 (talk) 15:58, 10 May 2021 (UTC)
• Typical retaliatory report. Baseless, please close. Bishonen | tålk 07:52, 11 May 2021 (UTC).
  • Reply to Sikandar khan67: I have posted on your page. Bishonen | tålk 08:01, 11 May 2021 (UTC).
    • @Bishonen: So, I haven't given this a full examination, but I recommend against quickly closing this without further review. Yes, the filing may well be retaliatory (if we're honest, most SPIs are the result of people looking into other editors following editorial conflict – accusing your wikifriends of socking is a rare occurence), but I wouldn't consider it inherently baseless: This sequence of events, where a dormant sockmaster comes out of hibernation to tweak the datestamp on a personal photo within under two hours of the upload, does give me pause. I know it is stressful to be accused of socking; please sit tight, I'll try to get on this either tonight or tomorrow if nobody else processes the case first. On a different note, @Sikandar khan67: We've had to refactor this SPI a few times now. Please do not collapse the evidence, and filings do indeed need to be signed. New evidence should go into new bullets, followed by a new signature. Best, --Blablubbs|talk 10:41, 11 May 2021 (UTC)
      • Sure, Blablubbs, keeping it open is fine. Note, though, I didn't mean "retaliatory" in the way you suggest, but in the sense of revenge for the SPI Heba Aisha had filed a few hours earlier. Bishonen | tålk 10:51, 11 May 2021 (UTC).
        • I know – I was trying to make a more general point about SPIs often being filed because of grudges of one sort or another; I should have probably phrased that better. :) --Blablubbs|talk 10:59, 11 May 2021 (UTC)
• @Sikandar khan67 and Heba Aisha: Since this case was opened about 24 hours ago, 75 edits have been made to this page, the overwhelming majority of which were made by you two. I understand that the topic area is contentious and that being accused of socking is stressful, but I do want to stress that SPI is not the venue to litigate wider conduct issues. Comments about possible socking by Sikandar should go to the relevant SPI, comments about wider conduct issues should go to dispute resolution noticeboards. You are welcome to present concrete evidence and concrete rebuttals relevant to this case here, but I will hat or remove any comments that aren't conducive to this SPI being processed. Thanks. --Blablubbs|talk 14:16, 11 May 2021 (UTC)
•  Steward note I was asked by Blablubbs to conduct a checkuser investigation at hi.wikipedia for Heba Aisha and Editor wikip6. When investigating, I did not find any connection between the two accounts. If enwiki CUs are interested in the raw data, please let me know. --Martin Urbanec (talk) 09:26, 13 May 2021 (UTC)
• As noted by Martin, I did ask for a check (on hi because the master is definitely not stale there and because this would involve xwiki socking) given that there are some very peculiar interactions and similarities here (devices, geolocations, the master coming out hibernation for Aisha-related matters multiple times etc.), but I am unwilling to endorse action based on the CU result. Things like the interaction on Commons worry me quite a bit, and I do think there's a decent chance of off-wiki coordination here (on all sides, as is the norm in highly contentious topic areas) – if that is indeed the case: Knock it off. I also want to remind everyone that Misplaced Pages is neither a game nor a battleground; @Sikandar khan67: Your conduct here and in related SPIs borders on the disruptive (e.g. ) – stop it, please. And yes, the IP is very likely Showbiz, who seems to enjoy making unhelpful onlooker commentary at SPI while logged out. Closing without action. --Blablubbs|talk 09:34, 13 May 2021 (UTC)
• @Sikandar khan67: I have looked at the evidence, and I've made my call. I'm not comfortable endorsing action given the technical result. --Blablubbs|talk 10:25, 13 May 2021 (UTC)

• @Sikandar khan67: A technical finding of  Unrelated, which is what we're looking at here, is based on more than just on an individual IP address or device – it depends on geolocation, ranges, ISPs, timing and various other factors. I trust Martin's result; and while there is some significant behavioural complexity involved here, it is not enough for me to push the technical findings to the side. --Blablubbs|talk 10:56, 13 May 2021 (UTC)

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