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Toltec

Sorry, but we need to follow the dates Mesoamerican chronology - which the article didn't do even before you changed it. Doug Weller talk 16:52, 28 October 2020 (UTC)

WP:CITE

I'm not sure you know what a reference or citation is here. A reference is used to verify information added. It should be to a source outside Misplaced Pages, such as a book, journal article, website, etc.

When viewed in edit mode it will look something like this : <ref>{{Cite| title=Book name| author=John Doe| date = 1999| page=123 }}</ref>.

Those bits of extra code like <ref> and {{ make the citation appear in the references section at the bottom of a page, correctly formatted and easily usable. Different sources (books, websites, article, etc.) have slightly different bits of code, as they have different fields to include the relevant information. See here Misplaced Pages:Citation templates for templates to use for creating different kinds of citations.

Also, you can not simply copy and paste a wall of text from one article into another article. For one, there is no need to have an entire articles worth of material in another article. For another, it strips editor authorship material form the information, see Misplaced Pages:Copying within Misplaced Pages for a much better explanation. Heiro 20:14, 9 April 2021 (UTC)

I understand not to copy from other Misplaced Pages articles, yes. Epictrex (talk) 20:49, 9 April 2021 (UTC)

I just made 2 edits to your Draft:King’s Beach Complex article. The first HERE added in a reflist template in the references section. By adding this inline citations will automatically appear in this section. The second edit HERE, I formatted your citation as a proper inline citation and moved it into the correct place in the body of the text. When you view the actual article, see how it now shows as a number in the text body, and as the full reference with link in the references field? That is how you reference articles. A good place to practice this would be in your sandbox (if you look in the upper right you should see a red sandbox, in between Talk and Preferences, click there to create a personalized sandbox just for you to experiment in). It can take a bit to get a hang of, making sure all the bits of code and weird characters are there. But if you take the trouble to figure it out, it will help you a lot in the long run. Heiro 20:58, 9 April 2021 (UTC)

Thank you so much! I will practice in the sandbox! Epictrex (talk) 21:02, 9 April 2021 (UTC)

Awesome. Saw you had added another reflist template to your draft article. You only need one of those on a page, you do not need them for each citation. Wherever you add that reflist template, all citations will appear, assuming they are correctly formatted with <ref> in front of them and </ref> at the end of them. Notice the small difference in those two? The backslash in the end piece? Heiro 21:12, 9 April 2021 (UTC)

I do, yes. Also, that’s good to know that I only need one reflist template.Epictrex (talk) 21:14, 9 April 2021 (UTC)

Now, as another example. The sample cite I gave you above for a book by John Doe, I just added it to your article here. Now, when you look at the article, it shows that small sentence, with the number 2 as a ref next to it? And it now shows up in the refences as a properly formatted cite? With each bit of information you add to an article, you add the citation, properly formatted, and the software will add it to the references section automatically.Heiro 21:23, 9 April 2021 (UTC)

And here is how to properly format the Elston cite (click this link, it will show you the side by side of the edit, so you can see what I changed). Now, when you go to the actual article, it shows as small number 3 in the body of the text where you placed the cite, and as citation number 3 in the references list section, properly formatted and with the url link working. Heiro 21:40, 9 April 2021 (UTC)

Thank you for your help with my article! I’ve been trying to make to an actual article instead of just a draft, so thank you! I will also check out the Elston site thing! I also saw the small 2 and the small 3 on my article.Epictrex (talk) 21:45, 9 April 2021 (UTC)

Read those 3 articles I left on the talk page and glean what information you can from them. Some dates and some information about the material culture would be nice. Use the cites with the information, keeping the correct cite with the information you got from each specific article. You should have enough information to at least make a stub article. Make sure to rewrite the information you find in your own words, do not copy and past sentences directly from the articles. (that would be copyright infringement and is strictly forbidden here, Misplaced Pages could get into legal trouble for that, and editors here by necessity have to take it seriously). Once you get some content added, I can look at it and give you some more pointers. I also already took the liberty of adding the correct infobox for an archaeological culture. Also, those always go at the top of the page. Heiro 22:29, 9 April 2021 (UTC)

Why thank you! I’ll try to make a stub article then. Epictrex (talk) 01:38, 10 April 2021 (UTC)

WP:STUB just means it's a very short article, without a lot of content. I'm not sure there is enough information in the 3 citations I left on the talk page to make it much more than a stub. A stub is a real article, as opposed to a draft, which is more a "temporary in progress article". This one should stay a draft until enough information is added to it to at least reach stub status. There doesn't seem to be much out there on this culture, as all I found were those 3 cites, and the one you already had. And that cite only had one sentence that even mentioned the Kings Creek complex. But there should be enough to establish dates, locality, and something about the material culture. That will be enough to get it to stub status. Later on if you find more, it can be added to and expanded. Heiro 02:14, 10 April 2021 (UTC)

Thank you for the info about the stub! I will add more to my draft article. Epictrex (talk) 20:39, 10 April 2021 (UTC)

Per your message at my talk, I do not have the time to write you six messages to explain to you in minute detail how to edit for every edit you make here. You have to do some learning on your own. Start by reading some of the pages I bluelinked for you in my messages, here and on other pages. Those are policy pages and how to pages and explanation pages for the rules and procedures here. I've already suggested to you twice (right above and a week or so ago on another talk page) to use the sandbox to experiment while you are learning, you have not done it once yet. You keep experimenting with live articles. You need to experiment in a way that doesn't break things until you get the hang of it. I've given you minimal warnings and tried to offer friendly advise instead, but I cant follow your every edit. At some point you have to read up on the rules and figure them out. I'm about to become very busy IRL soon, and will be on here very infrequently. It's policy here to "assume good faith" and to "not bite the newbies", but it's also policy that you have to be able to figure out the rules and edit within them.

This may help Help:Introduction, it will have links to articles about how to edit. So, to reiterate, read the policy, rule, abnd guideline pages, experiment in the sandbox before making edits, and ask questions on article talk pages and the teahouse before making edits if you have questions about whether or not they are permitted. Good luck. Heiro 03:43, 11 April 2021 (UTC)

Thank you, and yes, I’ve been reading some of those articles. Epictrex (talk) 03:57, 11 April 2021 (UTC)

If you haven't come across WP:TUTORIAL yet, it can be helpful. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 11:47, 11 April 2021 (UTC)

Socking

Rui Beech (talk · contribs), blocked indef. Adding here for future ref. Heiro 03:51, 10 May 2021 (UTC)

Who is Rui Beech? Epictrex (talk) 23:18, 10 May 2021 (UTC)

Rui Beech is the account you are  Confirmed via Checkuser to have used contrary to WP:SOCK. Six minutes after your false denial above, you created the account Gothicking and have also evaded your block while editing as an IP. This is essentially your only chance; any further block evasion and I will reset your block to indefinite.-- Jezebel's Ponyo 22:28, 12 May 2021 (UTC)

• @ToBeFree: as an FYI.-- Jezebel's Ponyo 22:28, 12 May 2021 (UTC)

  Thank you very much, Ponyo and Heironymous Rowe. ~ ToBeFree (talk) 22:30, 12 May 2021 (UTC)

What are you talking about? I only use ONE account. Epictrex (talk) 22:49, 12 May 2021 (UTC)

You're digging a very deep hole.-- Jezebel's Ponyo 22:51, 12 May 2021 (UTC)

Epictrex (block log • active blocks • global blocks • contribs • deleted contribs • filter log • creation log • change block settings • unblock • checkuser (log))

Request reason:

I wasn’t able to participate in the ANI conversation about me that day, because I got busy, and I wasn’t able to join, and I know that’s why I got blocked, is because I didn’t join in on the conversation. And, I won’t sock again. Epictrex (talk) 01:05, 15 May 2021 (UTC)

Decline reason:

The only possible pathway- admittedly slim- back to editing is for you to observe the standard offer and demonstrate that you won't sock again by actually not socking. I am declining your request. 331dot (talk) 01:44, 15 May 2021 (UTC)

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May 2021

I'm not sure if this was caused by 331dot's statement above, which has now become true – it was just a 3 month block and I'll probably never understand this. ~ ToBeFree (talk) 05:40, 25 May 2021 (UTC)

Wasnt I already blocked anyway? What don’t you understand? I haven’t been on here in almost 10 days, so what did I do to make my block indefinite? Epictrex (talk) 05:59, 25 May 2021 (UTC)

You can read the block message above for starters; it makes it pretty clear why your block was refactored. OhNoitsJamie 14:34, 25 May 2021 (UTC)