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Gone too far

The American Imperialism page has actually gone too far in one direction. Whilst this talk page was initially created to speak regarding the softness of the article regarding the topic, the entire article has been revamped in the opposite direction. Thus, it is still not a neutral article. In most other professional and encyclopedic versions of articles I have read on Misplaced Pages, historians are cited occasionally to give a point of view, but in this article it is so cluttered with negative historical views of America's foreign policy, you miss out on the actual informative things. A standard middle school textbook does a better job than the current article, which desperately needs to be fixed. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.7.66.150 (talk • contribs) 22:41, November 26, 2016 (UTC)

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POV issue

This article seems to make an effort to portray the topic in an as inoffensive light as possible. Instead of a criticism section there is only a "support" section, and the lead glorifies America and its interests in both the words of the "opponents" and the supporters. There is little to no material about the experiences and viewpoints of the countries that were subject to American imperialism. Prinsgezinde (talk) 11:36, 22 February 2022 (UTC)

The Allies of the United States section belongs on a separate page

The Allies of the United States section belongs on a separate page as it is more general and contemporary than the topic of the American imperialism page itself. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.92.192.64 (talk) 05:45, 23 February 2022 (UTC)

Neutrality and "Against" section

The "against" section seems to ironically support the United States. It mentions the Mashall plan, how US "stabilized" South Korea and helped Vietnam with humanitarian aid. It's also redacted as an original investigation.IASturgeon42 (talk) 15:42, 4 March 2022 (UTC)

External links relevant to the article that have been there for years suddenly removed due to suspected censorship for unknown motive

The following links in external links section which were there for years have been suddenly removed for unknown reasons. It could be due to censorship. It is unlikely that all 14 links were suddenly seen in violation of wiki rules and all removed at one go. There is good reason to believe that censorship is involved.

"Imperial America" by Richard Haass, 2000
"Empire or Not? A Quiet Debate Over U.S. Role" by Thomas E. Ricks, 2001
"The Answer to Terrorism? Colonialism" by Paul Johnson, 2001
"The Need for a New Imperialism" by Martin Wolf, 2001
"The Case for American Empire" by Max Boot, 2001
"All Roads Lead to D.C." by Emily Eakin, 2002
"The Reluctant Imperialist: Terrorism, Failed States, and the Case for American Empire" by Sebastian Mallaby, 2002
"The New Liberal Imperialism" by Robert Cooper, 2002
"In Praise of American Empire" by Dinesh D'Souza, 2002
"Empire lite" by Michael Ignatieff, 2003
"American Empire, Not 'If' but 'What Kind'" by Ivo H. Daalder and James M. Lindsay, 2003
"America and The Tragic Limits of Imperialism" by Robert D. Kaplan, 2003
"An Empire in Denial: The Limits of US Imperialism" by Niall Ferguson, 2003
"In Defence of Empires" by Deepak Lal, 2003

User:TheTimesAreAChanging says that all of the links violate https://en.wikipedia.org/Wikipedia:External_links#Links_normally_to_be_avoided and must be removed. I am unclear about the violation of these various links and I cannot accept such reasoning at face value. There is no explanation of how the 14 links violate the rules. I urge more debate and consensus reached before deleting these links which were there for years.

I will start with first link:

"Imperial America" by Richard Haass, 2000

This links to a speech by Richard Haas giving his views on a New "Imperial America" in 2000. I see this as relevant to the topic of 'American Imperialism'. I don't get why this somehow violate the rules and must be removed. Can someone explain the reasoning as to why the link violated the rules and must be removed? We will start with this first link and go through the rest of the 14 links one by one until a consensus is reached on all 14 links.

124.246.101.179 (talk) 07:43, 24 July 2022 (UTC)

Read WP:EL. 14 links is excessive, WP:ONUS is on you to justify their inclusion. None of these appear to meet WP:ELYES and if they can be used as sources, they are clearly WP:ELNO. Also, skip the censorship claim, it will get you nowhere and just annoy people. Slywriter (talk) 03:42, 3 August 2022 (UTC)

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