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This article has previously been nominated to be moved. Please review the prior discussions if you are considering re-nomination. Move logs: Yogurt Yoghurt Discussions: See also Talk:Yogurt/yogurtspellinghistory RM #1, Yoghurt -> Yogurt, Abandoned discussion; no consensus, 12 May 2005, Talk:Yogurt/Archive 1#Requested move RM #2, Yoghurt -> Yogurt, Move to Yogurt, 10 October 2006, Talk:Yogurt/Archive 2#"buttermilk" as yogurt? RM #3, Yoghurt -> Yogurt Revisited, no consensus, defaulting to keep at Yoghurt., 26 October 2006, Talk:Yogurt/Archive 2#Requested move revisited RM #4, Yoghurt -> Yogurt , No consensus, 21 May 2007, Talk:Yogurt/Archive 3#Naming poll RM #5, Yoghurt -> Yogurt , "Not enough consensus"; page not moved, 21 June 2009, Talk:Yogurt/Archive 5#Requested move RM #6, Yoghurt -> Yogurt , Delisted, 6 July 2009, Talk:Yogurt/Archive 5#No Consensus RM #7, Yoghurt -> Yogurt, No consensus, 27 October 2011, Talk:Yogurt/Archive 5#Move page to Yogurt RM #8, Yoghurt -> Yogurt, Moved, 10 December 2011, Talk:Yogurt/Archive 6#Move page to yogurt

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For the intro, please add the word “paste-like” next to food.2600:100C:A201:DA57:BC0A:206F:CC79:85EE (talk) 03:45, 7 May 2022 (UTC)

 Not done for now: please establish a consensus for this alteration before using the {{edit semi-protected}} template. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 10:13, 7 May 2022 (UTC)

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Additional spellings of Yogurt/yoğurt include Jogurt in some central European countries. 2A00:23C6:278E:1C01:1984:F9BB:5767:ABEA (talk) 13:53, 14 May 2022 (UTC)

 Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 14:37, 14 May 2022 (UTC)

History section: Oxygala claims about yogurt origin is not correct

There are very few information about the Greek oxygala and there is dispute about the form of this food. since yogurt's definition is "bacterial fermentation of milk" we need a proof of oxygala has same production steps. Oxygala seems like a type of buttermilk, and it is not a type of yogurt. this claim is inaccurate and seems like a rumour. Oxygala's wikipedia page is also not very informative. with those information, this part in the history section is not factual and should be removed: "The cuisine of ancient Greece included a dairy product known as oxygala (οξύγαλα) which was a form of yogurt. Galen (AD 129 – c. 200/c. 216) mentioned that oxygala was consumed with honey, similar to the way thickened Greek yogurt is eaten today." Objectionreceived (talk) 13:26, 23 July 2022 (UTC)

Sources for the oxygala article interpret it as a form of yogurt. Given the origin is more than 2000 years ago and sources are outside of written records, the "proof of production steps" you seek are not available. Under WP:BURDEN, you should search for a source that disputes oxygala as an early yogurt form as a start to changing the description. Zefr (talk) 14:49, 23 July 2022 (UTC)

Those sources use words like probably, possibly. Kefir and viili are also also sour, curdled milk like oxygala was described, but are they yogurt? No. The main purpose of inserting an unnecessary paragraph about oxygala in this article about yoğurt is to imply that Turkish people learned yoğurt from Greeks. Turkic Sakha (Yakut) people of northeastern Siberia traditionally make a type of yogurt called суорат (suorat) the name of which is cognate with Oghuz Turkic yoğurt. (The word-initial Y in East Old Turkic, Oghuz Turkic and Karluk TUrkic regularly corresponds to S in Yakut language. You can google суорат to see its photos and find Russian-language articles about it. Did the Sakha learn yoğurt/suorat from Greeks who live so far way? No. They inherited it from their cultural and linguistic ancestors.

https://www.academia.edu/20185495/SAHA_T%C3%9CRK%C3%87ES%C4%B0NDE_O%C4%9EUZCA_UNSURLAR (see page 50)

https://scfh.ru/en/papers/yoghurt-a-la-yakut/

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i want to fis it Potaaaitooh (talk) 15:34, 26 July 2022 (UTC)

It's not clear what you want to be changed. Girth Summit _(blether) 15:41, 26 July 2022 (UTC)

"Swiss style" yogurt

This appears to be a North American concept. A quick google produces mostly US and Canadian hits. The article should really clarify that this is a regional, not global, term. Ef80 (talk) 13:34, 5 October 2022 (UTC)

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