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Sez the French Bully
WP:URFA/2020
Hi, MONGO ... I pinged you to a query here. Best regards, SandyGeorgia (Talk) 15:38, 8 December 2020 (UTC)
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Dear Mongo, are you a government spook? You seem to possess an almost religious imperative to define the Franklin Scandal as a hoax. Have you read Nick Bryants' book? Have you even attempted to do research on this matter? Because as a 37-year-old from Canada, and in possession of above average cognitive abilities, I am rather inclined to believe that you have been compromised and someone, somewhere, has hired you to make sure this Scandal remains classified as a "conspiracy" on Misplaced Pages. Or perhaps you really just desire to toe-the-party-line, as they say.
There are countless corroborated testimonies to the fact that these children were horrifically abused and tortured. Not to mention all the mysterious deaths of those investigating the nefarious deeds surrounding Lawrence E. King and his colleagues, family, friends in law enforcement and political co-conspirators. Why not create a table of all the mysterious deaths surrounding those involved with the case, like the one on Marc Dutrouxs' page? https://en.m.wikipedia.org/Marc_Dutroux
Please, illuminate me. Jayboots13 (talk) 14:46, 6 January 2021 (UTC)
- I work for an agency that doesn't even have a name, numbers or letters. Thats all I can share and believe me, if I told you you'd disappear. So you don't want that. Best to run along and edit butterfly articles or something less dangerous.--MONGO (talk) 23:07, 6 January 2021 (UTC)
Khalid Sheikh Mohammed
Dear MONGO, My edit that you have reverted on Khalid Sheikh Mohammed was actually a vandalism that I was removing, It's a vandalism in Arabic language, I swear, I am an Egyptian, I know. (خرا) in Arabic language means (shit) in English language. You understood. IT'S EGYPT GUYS (talk) 17:54, 7 January 2021 (UTC)
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MONGO arbitration amendment
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About a Research on the History of Conspiracy Theories
Dear MONGO,
I take the liberty to contact you, I am a doctoral student in political science at the University of Paris 1 and my work focuses on the history of conspiracy theories, on which I have already published a few scientific articles and I am now preparing a book. I have been interviewing conspiracists and truthers, their critics and opponents for several years, working particularly on the French association ReOpen911 and the question of 9/11, as a now "historical" case of conspiracy...And obviously wikipedia has been a rather major theater of discussions/criticisms on the subject (up to the point if I rightly understood that it contributed to the implementation of the "semi-protected" pages?).
Looking at the related conspiracy pages' statistics, I realized that you have worked for long on these issues on wikipedia, hence my message and a small request: I would really appreciate if you can share bits of this "experience" with me in an interview
All the best
Pierre France pierre.France zoho.com https://univ-paris1.academia.edu/PierreFrance — Preceding unsigned comment added by 94.187.1.47 (talk) 09:52, 29 January 2021 (UTC)
- Pierre, you would need to send me an email to discuss using the email this user link at left.--MONGO (talk) 10:04, 30 January 2021 (UTC)
Motion proposed
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Motion enacted and amendment request closed
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Remedy 1 of the MONGO case ("Links to ED") is amended to read, "Links to, and/or content from, Encyclopædia Dramatica may be removed wherever found on Misplaced Pages, absent explicit consensus for their inclusion."
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Ricky (Rick) Dearborn
Dear Mongo, I just wanted to let you know that the edit on Rick Dearborn's article was not vandalism and that his birth name is Ricky and not Rick. I have confirmed this fact with members of his family. kind regards, Thaddeus — Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.238.151.199 (talk) 18:35, 9 March 2021 (UTC)
2018 Volcán de Fuego eruption
Hi, It is best to order the article by name in the category, and not by year, since it is already a date-ordered category. Regards, Yann (talk) 11:09, 11 April 2021 (UTC)
- It was an accidental rollback which I immediately reverted...or did you not see that?--MONGO (talk) 15:02, 11 April 2021 (UTC)
Reliable sources call Trump's comments and actions stupid, funny looking, politically incorrect, boorish, un-American, racist and misogynist
Not me. Google any of those adjectives alongside his name, if you think I'm playing some game. Why is "pathological liar" OK to repeat, but not the rest? InedibleHulk (talk) 09:01, 24 April 2021 (UTC)
- Pathological liar should come out too.--MONGO (talk) 22:28, 24 April 2021 (UTC)
- I collapsed it, along with "unapologetic reactionary", someone else can worry about revdel or whatever. Just "racist" and "misogynist" left. Nobody seems to think there's anything potentially offensive to a living person in those softballs. InedibleHulk (talk) 23:42, 24 April 2021 (UTC)
"Glacial retreat" listed at Redirects for discussion
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I'm a little behind the times
--MONGO (talk) 05:09, 29 June 2021 (UTC)
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9/11 Pages
Please leave my edits to the pages dealing with the 9/11 Twin Towers pages alone. I haven't removed or deleted any information, I've simply made them more narratively fluid. What you've reverted makes no sense, and doesn't impact the information in any way, it only reads better.— Preceding unsigned comment added by Maxq32 (talk • contribs)
You still kickin'?
Is there a new movement to lazily edit WP these days? 
Atsme 💬 📧 21:48, 3 August 2021 (UTC)
- Family, work and other distractions such as vacation with poor internet access is the reason I've been hard to find as of late.--MONGO (talk) 22:58, 3 August 2021 (UTC)
Nomination of Arrowhead Pool for deletion
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FAR review
I have nominated Retreat of glaciers since 1850 for a featured article review here. Please join the discussion on whether this article meets featured article criteria. Articles are typically reviewed for two weeks. If substantial concerns are not addressed during the review period, the article will be moved to the Featured Article Removal Candidates list for a further period, where editors may declare "Keep" or "Delist" the article's featured status. The instructions for the review process are here.
I hope to see this article updated! Let me know if you know others that may be interested to help. Femke (talk) 10:06, 5 December 2021 (UTC)
- Femke then get yourself busy. You've been so concerned for over a year about the status of the article, yet I see not one edit except on the talk page by you. I really just don't get the rationale of someone who claims to be interested in climate change issues and has supposedly produced scholarly work on the subject yet instead of working to fix what they see as shortcomings in such articles, instead does zero except to submit them for removal from FA status.--MONGO (talk) 10:47, 5 December 2021 (UTC)
- Cmon, I work a lot on articles myself (including climate change, sea level rise). I've helped save Earth at FAR and spent a lot of time improving tropical cyclone there (we brought it back close to GA level). This article is a bit too low in readership for me to work on extensively, but I do think it's important we show our readers accurately which articles are currently up-to-date and meeting the FA standards. Femke (talk) 11:45, 5 December 2021 (UTC)
Happy First Edit Day!
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Happy First Edit Day, MONGO, from the Misplaced Pages Birthday Committee! Have a great day! Bobherry Talk Edits 01:00, 18 January 2022 (UTC) |
Happy First Edit Day!
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FAR for Yellowstone fires of 1988
I have nominated Yellowstone fires of 1988 for a featured article review here. Please join the discussion on whether this article meets featured article criteria. Articles are typically reviewed for two weeks. If substantial concerns are not addressed during the review period, the article will be moved to the Featured Article Removal Candidates list for a further period, where editors may declare "Keep" or "Delist" the article's featured status. The instructions for the review process are here. Noah 15:28, 26 January 2022 (UTC)
- Of course you have...and you waited near zero time as a common courtesy to see what your lone talkpage comment might bring. Its low class rude behavior like that that makes this website suck.--MONGO (talk) 05:46, 27 January 2022 (UTC)
Well...
Car 54 where are you? Atsme 💬 📧 13:06, 20 April 2022 (UTC)
- Still here intermittently. Check your email.--MONGO (talk) 01:35, 21 April 2022 (UTC)
Always precious
Ten years ago, you were found precious. That's what you are, always. I dare to leave this messages, and thank you for being around! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:26, 29 June 2022 (UTC)
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Deprodding
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Need some eyes here
Hey, Valereee, what ever happened with the following request: Misplaced Pages:Arbitration Committee/Requests for comment/AfD at scale?? Does the above nom and prod activity fit the scope of your RfC? I'm also wondering if such activity would be subject to DS based on the ArbCom that was just closed, or how would we find out? I'll just ping Barkeep49 for input because I'm of the mind that what has happened above is a bit unreasonable considering this editor has numerous FAs under his belt. I was surprise-blocked a long time ago for using PROD to eliminate a series of stubs about a rare subspecies (all of the same species) that were only 1 to 2 sentences long, with the intention of combining them into an easy to find list. Atsme 💬 📧 13:44, 24 August 2022 (UTC)
- Hey, Atsme! There's a draft of the pre-RfC workshopping discussion at User talk:Valereee/draft. Expecting to move it to Misplaced Pages talk:Arbitration Committee/Requests for comment/Article creation at scale in maybe a week, depending on various issues. Um, I have to now go read what's happened above before responding to the rest. :D Valereee (talk) 16:11, 24 August 2022 (UTC)
- Okay, so we're talking about the multiple AfDs. Yes, that is part of what will be discussed at Misplaced Pages talk:Arbitration Committee/Requests for comment/Article creation at scale and eventually at Misplaced Pages:Arbitration Committee/Requests for comment/Article creation at scale Valereee (talk) 16:12, 24 August 2022 (UTC)
- Hopefully with consequences for such disruption, especially without any prior discussion with the article creator (a veteran, long established editor with FAs under their belt in this case), an obvious all-out attack against a body of work, and what appears to be a misinterpretation or lack of understanding of how our guidelines apply, as what we are seeing in this case relative to NEXIST and GEOLAND, for starters. You know, the prodding-nomming editor could have started with a sources needed tag, not a jump into the deep end PROD or AfD. Atsme 💬 📧 16:57, 24 August 2022 (UTC) Adding that my comment about consequences are not directed at Dlthewave, as I truly believe he meant well, but simply did not quite understand the gravity of the Grand Tetons (mountains and all lakes) as being a nationally protected area with named lakes and geographic features. I was able to communicate that with them on their UTP. Maybe they will consider attending NPPSCHOOL with one of our excellent instructors and become a member of NPP if not already. Atsme 💬 📧 18:01, 24 August 2022 (UTC)
- Sorry to wander in to your conversation. User:Dlthewave has replied at my talk, and while they're justifiably dismayed I'm requesting their restraint, I'm hopeful their response signals a willingness to help us develop a consenus which will assist all editors when dealing with disagreements such as the RFC you ladies have been developing. If wikipedians are bound to disagree, I find it helpful that we can disagree with experienced contributors in good faith and strive towards a superior position than the one where we began. Always happy to see Auntie Val's datestamp. BusterD (talk) 17:39, 24 August 2022 (UTC)
- I should add that since the bear is now awake, I might acknowledge how nice it is to see MONGO's datestamp too. BusterD (talk) 17:43, 24 August 2022 (UTC)
- That RfC is the result of Valereee's efforts. I'm more inclined to stay away from anything that starts with the letters a-r-b. Atsme 💬 📧 18:07, 24 August 2022 (UTC)
- Thank you. I cannot disagree that the above listed articles could use improvements and so far I have managed, in between my 50 hour work weeks, to add a few tidbids of info to 8 of the above 10 articles. I fear I may go full MONGO here and say the obvious but will refrain and allow calmer editors to make a case. I shall endeavour to update the articles further as I can and get those last 2 much improved as well.--MONGO (talk) 17:59, 24 August 2022 (UTC)
- I appreciate any restraint from any involved party; I make an effort these days to be the calmer editor. Perhaps because I've seen how wikipedians (better than I) have sometimes fallen into temper traps (and I'm vulnerable to such myself). In this particular geostub issue, I'd like to think that agreement might work better than disagreement. An opportunity to discuss application of the SNG may allow us all a better place in which to contribute. BusterD (talk) 18:43, 24 August 2022 (UTC)
- Hey, from where I sit...the delete arguments are not even relevant to AfD because of the presumed notability afforded to protected areas/named geographic features per WP:SNG, more specifically WP:NGEO. Add to that WP:NEXIST, and WP:CONTN. They are simply guidelines, not policy. Our 3 core content policies, WP:OR, WP:NPOV and WP:V have all been met - no policy vios involved here. Back to the guidelines...read WP:SNG, and when done, take 2 aspirins and get some bedrest – you'll feel better in the morning. All that is really required to determine N is some semblance of common sense and critical thinking skills; i.e., WP:CIR – which btw is another contradiction in that we are supposed to be the encyclopedia anyone can edit. In short, all we really need is a little KISS and CYA...and that reminds me of this brilliant article, The Limits of Volunteerism and the Gatekeepers of Team Encarta, and the "hegemony of the asshole consensus".
Excuse me while I take 2 aspirins – I'm not so sure about bedrest this early in the afternoon. I never had a pressure cooker. Atsme 💬 📧 18:18, 25 August 2022 (UTC)
- When this Rfc takes off I have a few comments to add. The issue is not so much the prodding in itself though other tags to bring light to an article needing enhancements are preferred if for no other reason than simple courtesy. The issue is mass prodding, mass deletions of noncopyvio do no harm stub articles that makes it difficult to near impossible for someone like myself, who works 50+ hours a week, to find the time to respond to said proddings. The argument that, well these are a decade old so why wait so long to enhance them is useless because, well why are they only now being prodded...why didnt prodding happen 9.5 years ago? Server space is cheap so the elimination of the articles wont alter the page load speeds one iota. Have read in a few statements on these aforementioned Afds that "nobody even reads" the stubs...while we have no way to know if the stubs are read, page views indicate even the stubbiest of them gets a half dozen views a week. I am by my nature an inclusionist so its not easy for me to AGF when I get 10 prods in nearly as many minutes by someone and who seems hell bent on application of a very terse, black and white and possibly disingenious interpretation of notability guidelines. Guidelines are oftentimes adjusted and require few participants to get this accomplished so they are guidelines afterall, not policies. A careful review of Misplaced Pages:FAILN is in order.--MONGO (talk) 18:41, 25 August 2022 (UTC)
- Hey, from where I sit...the delete arguments are not even relevant to AfD because of the presumed notability afforded to protected areas/named geographic features per WP:SNG, more specifically WP:NGEO. Add to that WP:NEXIST, and WP:CONTN. They are simply guidelines, not policy. Our 3 core content policies, WP:OR, WP:NPOV and WP:V have all been met - no policy vios involved here. Back to the guidelines...read WP:SNG, and when done, take 2 aspirins and get some bedrest – you'll feel better in the morning. All that is really required to determine N is some semblance of common sense and critical thinking skills; i.e., WP:CIR – which btw is another contradiction in that we are supposed to be the encyclopedia anyone can edit. In short, all we really need is a little KISS and CYA...and that reminds me of this brilliant article, The Limits of Volunteerism and the Gatekeepers of Team Encarta, and the "hegemony of the asshole consensus".
- I appreciate any restraint from any involved party; I make an effort these days to be the calmer editor. Perhaps because I've seen how wikipedians (better than I) have sometimes fallen into temper traps (and I'm vulnerable to such myself). In this particular geostub issue, I'd like to think that agreement might work better than disagreement. An opportunity to discuss application of the SNG may allow us all a better place in which to contribute. BusterD (talk) 18:43, 24 August 2022 (UTC)
- I should add that since the bear is now awake, I might acknowledge how nice it is to see MONGO's datestamp too. BusterD (talk) 17:43, 24 August 2022 (UTC)
- Sorry to wander in to your conversation. User:Dlthewave has replied at my talk, and while they're justifiably dismayed I'm requesting their restraint, I'm hopeful their response signals a willingness to help us develop a consenus which will assist all editors when dealing with disagreements such as the RFC you ladies have been developing. If wikipedians are bound to disagree, I find it helpful that we can disagree with experienced contributors in good faith and strive towards a superior position than the one where we began. Always happy to see Auntie Val's datestamp. BusterD (talk) 17:39, 24 August 2022 (UTC)
- Hopefully with consequences for such disruption, especially without any prior discussion with the article creator (a veteran, long established editor with FAs under their belt in this case), an obvious all-out attack against a body of work, and what appears to be a misinterpretation or lack of understanding of how our guidelines apply, as what we are seeing in this case relative to NEXIST and GEOLAND, for starters. You know, the prodding-nomming editor could have started with a sources needed tag, not a jump into the deep end PROD or AfD. Atsme 💬 📧 16:57, 24 August 2022 (UTC) Adding that my comment about consequences are not directed at Dlthewave, as I truly believe he meant well, but simply did not quite understand the gravity of the Grand Tetons (mountains and all lakes) as being a nationally protected area with named lakes and geographic features. I was able to communicate that with them on their UTP. Maybe they will consider attending NPPSCHOOL with one of our excellent instructors and become a member of NPP if not already. Atsme 💬 📧 18:01, 24 August 2022 (UTC)
- Okay, so we're talking about the multiple AfDs. Yes, that is part of what will be discussed at Misplaced Pages talk:Arbitration Committee/Requests for comment/Article creation at scale and eventually at Misplaced Pages:Arbitration Committee/Requests for comment/Article creation at scale Valereee (talk) 16:12, 24 August 2022 (UTC)
Misplaced Pages is ridiculous
A few pedantic pains in the arse seem to have nothing better to do than run around and find nothing but minor faults with articles, and no amount of effort will save them from the FAR goon squad.--MONGO (talk) 23:02, 20 December 2022 (UTC)
Another year gone
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Happy Eighteenth First Edit Day!
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Featured article review of Yellowstone
I have nominated Yellowstone National Park for a featured article review here. Please join the discussion on whether this article meets the featured article criteria. Articles are typically reviewed for two weeks. If substantial concerns are not addressed during the review period, the article will be moved to the Featured Article Removal Candidates list for a further period, where editors may declare "Keep" or "Delist" in regards to the article's featured status. The instructions for the review process are here. Hog Farm Talk 05:17, 5 February 2023 (UTC)
- Hello Hog Farm...Yellowstone NP was brought to FA by another editor and I find the entire process of FAR and FARC to be a losing battle. One of my past FA's was nommed for FAR by a person that wanted to see the article returned to the mainpage, yet did ZERO to assist me in updating it. The last FAR I spent like 6 months and made over 100 edits and triple checked every ref and it STILL was delisted...so why should I bother?--MONGO (talk) 01:29, 24 February 2023 (UTC)
Redwood National and State Parks under FA review
I have nominated Redwood National and State Parks for a featured article review here. Please join the discussion on whether this article meets the featured article criteria. Articles are typically reviewed for two weeks. If substantial concerns are not addressed during the review period, the article will be moved to the Featured Article Removal Candidates list for a further period, where editors may declare "Keep" or "Delist" in regards to the article's featured status. The instructions for the review process are here. George Ho (talk) 13:51, 5 February 2023 (UTC)
Wikimedia US Mountain West online meeting
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Wikimedia US Mountain West online meeting 05/09/2023
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