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Washington County Fire District 2

In case you may have lost track of it, Washington County Fire District 2 needs to be updated, as that entity no longer exists as of July 1. I have way too little interest in the subject to want to do it myself, but since you wrote the article, I assume you do. Cheers, SJ Morg (talk) 10:05, 6 July 2017 (UTC)

Akhlas Akhlaq

Do you know how to fix the sources.., as in title, publication, date etc. Can you help out over there by any chance?--Boxman88 (talk) 23:02, 10 July 2017 (UTC)

Too many for me to go in quickly. See Help:Referencing for beginners for tips and templates. If you install the add-in, it makes it easy to use the templates. Aboutmovies (talk) 23:55, 10 July 2017 (UTC)

DAT Solutions in Beaverton

Hello again. I worked with you on improving the Planar Systems company page. I would like to work on the DAT Solutions page which is located at Dial-a-truck, a name they haven't used in 4 years. Would you be supportive of moving the page to DAT Solutions with a redirect from the old name? As that process begins, I'll work up a sandbox version of the page to suggest changes and improvements. This will largely take the form of 1) reducing the duplicate narrative, 2) placing better citations throughout the page, and 3) putting in place an infobox similar to the one for Planar and other local companies, 4) improving the category tags. I would greatly appreciate your thoughts on this before I begin on the process. Thank you! — RossO (talk) 22:28, 12 July 2017 (UTC)

I would actually recommend starting to re-work it now, specifically to get some third party sources to show notability. Right now, the page would likely be deleted if nominated, and moving it might attract attention of editors who might nominate it. Once there are some third-party citations, then I would say move it. Aboutmovies (talk) 01:16, 13 July 2017 (UTC)

I'm making some progress on my sandbox version of the page. Would you mind taking a look at it and seeing what you think? The Articles To Reference box is temporary for my notes. RossO (talk) 00:19, 21 July 2017 (UTC)

Without a full review, don't use BusinessWire, it is a PR thing. Instead, a bit more reputable is the PBJ, and a search shows a few more articles. If you have a Multnomah County library card, use their online databases for The Oregonian (goes back to 1987) and The Historical Oregonian that goes from 1987 all the way back to the first issue. You may find more articles on the company. And, if you don't have their library card, get one, as even Washington County residents are eligible (some sort of reciprocal thing). Aboutmovies (talk) 02:29, 21 July 2017 (UTC)

Thank you for the suggestions and guidance. I've made much more progress on my sandbox version of the page. Would you mind taking a second look at it at some point in time? (No rush.) I've placed more articles to pull up and reference on the talk page. RossO (talk) 07:32, 30 July 2017 (UTC)

Quick look notes:

1. Lede is a bit technical, though not sure if you can dumb it down to what an average reader would understand
2. History section is usually first
3. Products would not be capitalized in the header; also you have an external link in that section, which is not allowed per WP:ELNO
4. Footnote 17 in the last section has an error since you can see part of the coding
5. Trim the EL section, probably just leave the thesis and the DAT links

Otherwise the sourcing looks a lot better. High start or low C class, and likely to survive any deletion attempts. Aboutmovies (talk) 00:42, 2 August 2017 (UTC)

These are great notes, and I'm grateful to you for the help. I have dealt with each of the five items you noted, including adding a bit more background to the lede graph. Unless you have a different idea, I will update the original page with my version. Once that page has been settled for a week or so, I will push to have it moved to a more appropriate page. — RossO : talk 20:35, 4 August 2017 (UTC)

@Aboutmovies: I have updated the page with my final draft, moved it to the new name and have placed an RfC request on the talk page for general feedback. => DAT Solutions <= I welcome your comments there again. I'm hoping to have the 'stub' classifications removed. — RossO (talk) 18:17, 10 August 2017 (UTC)

Thanks for noticing !

Thanks for noticing the article I've been working on researching and expanding, Elijah Daniel !!!

What do you think of the article? Sagecandor (talk) 03:34, 18 July 2017 (UTC)

Revert

Hello. This is a message to let you know that one or more of your recent contributions, such as the edit you made to Ray Rigby (screenwriter), did not appear constructive and has been reverted. Please take some time to familiarise yourself with our policies and guidelines. You can find information about these at our welcome page which also provides further information about contributing constructively to this encyclopedia. If you only meant to make test edits, please use the sandbox for that. If you think I made a mistake, or if you have any questions, you may leave a message on my talk page. Thank you. You added the category "Place of birth missing" to an article which quite clearly did state the persons place of birth. I am getting rather unhappy with this stupid drive-by tagging, adding categories which clearly do not apply to new articles. PatGallacher (talk) 00:06, 5 August 2017 (UTC)

I don't need to familiarize myself with anything, it was a simple mistake based on the fact that the formatting in the lede is not standard. Sort of like your message here not being a separate section was a simple mistake. Perhaps you should familiarize yourself with WP:AGF. Aboutmovies (talk) 01:44, 5 August 2017 (UTC)

Overlinking

Hi, please note this. You might wish to consult WP:MOSLINK. Thanks for your contributions. Tony (talk) 05:13, 12 August 2017 (UTC)

Hi Tony1 (talk · contribs) you might want to consult WP:DTTR, especially since I added a total of ZERO links to that article. Check the history carefully, as my only edit was to move it to a more specific category per WP:CAT (other than an assessment). Aboutmovies (talk) 21:41, 12 August 2017 (UTC)

Ach, sorry, wrong person. But I included no template above, and if you'd added the useless links I'd have posted the same here. Tony (talk) 23:04, 12 August 2017 (UTC)

Resetting my expectations and understanding processes

@Aboutmovies: I've been woking on an update to Portal:Current events in an effort to make it mobile-friendly. With the help of a couple of WP'ers I've put together a comprehensive set of changes that will enable the page to work at all window widths quite well:

Portal talk:Current events#Mobile-Friendly Current Events project (Final_step)

I posted this over 48 hours ago, but have not had a single comment about the change. These pages are watched very closely and I'm wondering if I've done something wrong or if no comment is a good comment. I wasn't expecting the change to be implement immediately, but I was expecting to have some comments made, particularly as I am suggesting using a flexbox inline style that I haven't seen used on WP before. Have I gone about this incorrectly? Have I missed a step in the process? Do I simply not have any clout with the Editors to be noticed? I'm curious as to what you think the situation is, as I have no way of gauging the sentiment. — RossO (talk) 19:52, 13 August 2017 (UTC)

The issue is more that Misplaced Pages is simply not as active as it used to be. Things happen more slowly, so just give it some more time. Aboutmovies (talk) 21:50, 13 August 2017 (UTC)

Thanks. I will hold tight and just put this aside for while. — RossO (talk) 07:24, 14 August 2017 (UTC)

I am an Oregon pilot and marine operator with a question for you

Greetings-

I have lived in Oregon all my life. I am 46. Grew up in Gresham, outside of Portland. Went to school at Wheaton College in Chicago, IL and married my dream girl from Indian via Wheaton College. We have lived happily in Sisters, Oregon (near Bend) for the last 24 years. We have a fabulous 17 year old daughter (student body president of her school) and a wonderful 14 year old son (who loves basketball).

I own three of my own companies in Sisters. I have been friends with a best selling author (who lives in Charleston ,SC) for the last 24 years. His wikipedia page has been vandalized and "stocked/guarded" by one editor in particular for the last 7 years. This editor made over 45 edits himself on my friends book wiki page 7 years ago and has removed tons of properly sourced true facts by tons of editors ever since.

I was wondering if I flew my plane over to Twin Oaks, Newberg, Troutdale, or Aurora airport to buy you lunch, if I could better understand how the wikipedia rules can be followed to stop this editor from promoting his slant writing and criticism which leaves my friend's book's wiki page over 85% negative and very damaging to his brand. As you can see, I avoided landing in PDX because I fly a small single engine Cessna 170B (I drove to NJ 2 years ago to get this plane, put it on a trailer, drove it to Sisters, put 800 hours into it restoring it, and today she is better than new). Happy to take you for a flight if you like flying in small planes. Thanks for your consideration and congratulations on such a successful career as a wiki volunteer editor. 208.100.129.61 (talk) 07:19, 19 August 2017 (UTC)

thanks!

Hey Aboutmovies, I very much appreciate the welcome on my talk page! Gabriel syme (talk) 16:47, 31 August 2017 (UTC)

Walk of Flags / Wall of Water

Thanks for adding the most obvious categories! Maybe "Tourist attractions in Salem, Oregon" is another appropriate subcategory? ---Another Believer _(Talk) 00:32, 5 September 2017 (UTC)

Sure, but not sure if this message relates to the Salem cat, or the Culture of Salem cat. Aboutmovies (talk) 00:34, 5 September 2017 (UTC)

Thanks in general, and a question in specific

Hey there! Firstly, thank you for being a longtime part of Misplaced Pages, especially for topics about our region. Second, I posted a note in the Norma Paulus Talk page regarding past edits I've made as a newbie user, which I hope that you will review and respond with your best advice as a veteran.

Note: I'll be logging in regularly in the next few weeks as a part of a training program run by OCLC and Webjunction, Misplaced Pages + Libraries. My goals include building my skills to be confident to engage others in supporting and using Misplaced Pages.

Thanks for any comments you have, and I look forward to getting up to speed on how to navigate the rich world of this place. Best wishes, Lgrayp (talk) 16:28, 13 September 2017 (UTC)

Update: Sorry to get things out of order -- now I have my profile and Talk pages up, so if you have any comments, you have a place for them to go. Thanks again. Lgrayp (talk) 15:27, 20 September 2017 (UTC)

Upcoming Misplaced Pages edit-a-thon dedicated to artists of color - Thursday, Oct. 26 at PNCA

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11 years of editing

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Hi

It looks like you're accidentally removing WikiProjects. WikiOriginal-9 (talk) 01:29, 4 November 2017 (UTC)

Thanks, it appears the rater add-on is malfunctioning. Aboutmovies (talk) 01:32, 4 November 2017 (UTC)

Sorry for all the notifications. WikiOriginal-9 (talk) 01:43, 4 November 2017 (UTC)

Copyright

Thanks for the heads-up. I sent an email just now to the author, J. Hale at The O, to tell him of the error. I gave him a link to the page of the original and its license tags. Finetooth (talk) 23:11, 11 November 2017 (UTC)

J. Hale responded quickly. Problem is fixed. Finetooth (talk) 18:04, 13 November 2017 (UTC)

userbox

I'm not sure if it's intentional or not, but there appears to be a typo in your userbox "This user believes that userboxen should only relate to Misplaced Pages." Gabriel syme (talk) 19:40, 12 November 2017 (UTC)

It is intentional. Aboutmovies (talk) 05:34, 14 November 2017 (UTC)

Allen Michels

Wasn't sure to consider him living or not. I guess better safe to put that he is so it falls under BLP. Cannot find anything on him after 1993 so maybe he's alive, maybe dead, maybe abducted by aliens. Who knows. And, thanks for assessing the page.  :) --CNMall41 (talk) 19:24, 20 November 2017 (UTC)

Tried to find a date of birth, but only found an age (43 in 1984), so I think the rule is we keep them in living people until something like 100, unless we know they are dead. Aboutmovies (talk) 22:14, 20 November 2017 (UTC)

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Seasons' Greetings

...to you and yours, from the Great White North! FWiW Bzuk (talk) 03:17, 24 December 2017 (UTC)

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Submit article for review

Hi Aboutmovies,

Thank you for the welcoming message. I have created an article about the history of steam explosion pulping in my sandbox but cannot seem to submit it review. The publish function's scope seems to be limited to my sandbox. Any idea how to submit this article for review.

PaulDelong (talk) 17:21, 8 January 2018 (UTC)

Per WP:AFC: To nominate an existing draft or user sandbox for review at Articles for Creation, add the code {{subst:submit}} to the top of the draft or sandbox page.

Aboutmovies (talk) 17:26, 8 January 2018 (UTC)

List of films shot in Oregon

I would like to add Bandits to the list of films shot in Oregon (2001). The thing that stopped me was the apparent regional separation of filming. This film was shot at multiple Oregon (and California) locations. I don't know if it should appear repeatedly as some scenes were quite short. Is IMDB sufficient as a credible source? http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0219965/locations?ref_=tt_dt_dt This is a fun movie and if you have not seen it I'm sure you'll enjoy it. Bandits_(2001_film) Especially where Bruce Willis and Billy Bob Thornton escape prison in a Ross Island Concrete mixer truck. MisterHOP (talk) 22:45, 8 January 2018 (UTC)

I saw it in the theater, it was OK. Anyway, I think you just pick a location and go with that. For example, Management (film) filmed in Madras, and the Portland area, but is listed only in Portland. Aboutmovies (talk) 23:40, 8 January 2018 (UTC)

Belated best wishes for a happy 2018

== BoringHistoryGuy (talk) 13:25, 16 January 2018 (UTC)

Julie L. Green & Clay Lohmann

Dear Aboutmovies,

I am a new wiki user and have seem to run into trouble regarding the deletion of two articles I've posted. Julie L. Green and Clay Lohmann. They are both artists living in Oregon who have been the recipient of the Joan Mitchell Foundation Painters and Sculptors Grant.

Would you be willing to offer your time and assistance in getting these two pages back up and running?

Regards,

KaitlynCK (talk) 23:38, 8 April 2018 (UTC)

Kaitlyn CK KaitlynCK (talk) 01:17, 17 January 2018 (UTC) KaitlynCK (talk) 01:17, 17 January 2018 (UTC)

Request for suggestions

Hi Aboutmovies! You recently assessed the article Blueford v. Arkansas; per the WikiProject FAQs, I would very greatly appreciate it if you could give feedback on any suggested improvements to the article you might have. Thanks! Kevin (aka L235 · t · c) 04:21, 13 February 2018 (UTC)

Kevin, that is a nice article. My concern as to getting to B class is a bit too much reliance on primary sources. I know we do it all the time in law articles, as people with a legal background prefer primary sources. But, as the link to primary sources notes, they are to be used with care, which to me means sparingly because we end up interpreting too much of what we think the court said. We may have the legal background to competently do so, but that is not within Misplaced Pages rules. The rest give it a good copyedit, as for example citation 18 lacks the name of the source. Aboutmovies (talk) 05:55, 14 February 2018 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

		The Original Barnstar
		Thank you for creating African Methodist Episcopal University!Zigzig20s (talk) 16:09, 18 February 2018 (UTC)

What do you think to bring back COTW?

Hi Aboutmovies,

Peteforsyth mentioned to me that you were the person who initiated the collaboration of the week (though COTW is no longer active sadly..). I am thinking to create a tool to help recommend one or two articles to WikiProjects to reduce the effort of coordinating the article selection process. I wonder what do you think about it? Would other WikiProjects appreciate this idea as well? Thank you! Bobo.03 (talk) 15:40, 24 February 2018 (UTC)

I don't know if other projects would or not, or if there are that many active projects left. While the tool could be a time saver, I just don't know how effective the COTW would be at this time. If you are familiar with the editing of Misplaced Pages in general, the entire project has stagnated and simply does not have as many editors engaged as it did say a decade ago. More than anything, have lots of engaged editors is what made it successful. I just was able to provide a leadership role in focusing that energy. In other words, it would not hurt to try your tool. Aboutmovies (talk) 23:53, 24 February 2018 (UTC)

Hi Aboutmovies, sorry I just see your message - did not watch your page. I see.. Yeh, I've tried to build tools to help projects recruit new members. It's effective, but takes time to see the long-term effect I guess. Are you still active around some WikiProjects now? Bobo.03 (talk) 01:42, 27 February 2018 (UTC)

I still actively edit for WP Oregon, WP Law, WP Africa,and WP Biography, but I am not really involved much with any of those projects on the project pages. Aboutmovies (talk) 16:48, 1 March 2018 (UTC)

Got it. Thank you for letting me know. I will keep thinking about this, and may consult you later if you don't mind:) Bobo.03 (talk) 18:10, 1 March 2018 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

	The Original Barnstar
	thanks for the help Army (talk) 15:08, 1 March 2018 (UTC)

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Brad Smith (American lawyer) assessment

What would it need to get to B or A? --GRuban (talk) 22:51, 3 March 2018 (UTC)

A has to go through a formal process. As to B, you are almost there. A few more details and a good copyedit. For example, what did he graduate with, where was the clerkship (as in which court)? I assume a JD for the degree, but it does not say and there are other degrees (by that time most law schools did JDs though). Then, cases should be in italics, as are Latin words (pro bono). Aboutmovies (talk) 00:06, 4 March 2018 (UTC)

Thank you! --GRuban (talk) 00:30, 4 March 2018 (UTC)

Requesting to use your image

Hi there,

I am a member of the Kruse Way Rotary club. I have been tasked with updating our website, and I would like permission to use your photo found at https://commons.wikimedia.org/File:Trees_in_bloom_off_Kruse_Way_-_Lake_Oswego,_Oregon.JPG

I am not a webmaster or developer by trade and this is my first interaction on Misplaced Pages. I see that there are correct ways to attribute this work to you, but I don't quite understand how it works. The photo when cropped to 1200x300 pixels makes a nice background image for the header on the webpage. I am able to resize the image and upload it into the website template editor, and I don't see any way to directly edit the HTML or list an attribution. Would you be willing to give me permission to use the photo without correct attribution?

Thanks for your consideration.

Kjpalmer21 (talk) 03:36, 8 March 2018 (UTC)

Normally I would, but I have a hang up with this photo. What you can do is add the attribution elsewhere on the page (say the bottom). Something like: "Photo courtesy of M.O. Stevens"

Thanks. Aboutmovies (talk) 16:40, 9 March 2018 (UTC)

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Naomi Parker Fraley

She died in Longview, Washington. There are numerous article, here is one example, that say she died in hospice care. There is a hospice care in Longview. The criteria for Notable people sections say a person must have either lived or been born somewhere to be from a place. Dying somewhere or being buried somewhere doesn't meet those criteria. Find a reference for Fraley that says she is from Longview....William, is the complaint department really on the roof? 10:42, 18 April 2018 (UTC)

I am well aware of the rules on this, I just assumed everyone knew she lived there at the end of her life. The news around here when she died, which Longview is part of the metro area I'm in, was that she was from there. I have now added a source. Aboutmovies (talk) 06:29, 19 April 2018 (UTC)

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Suggestion for categorization edit summary

Hi Aboutmovies, thanks for your comment at Talk:James Hartness#Categorization of people?. You mentioned that other editors have shared my misunderstanding of the categorization process. I thought that using an edit summary in such cases might help them understand the policy better, as follows: "Placing individual in the deepest pertinent subcategories per WP:COP." That would point the puzzled editor on the other end to the correct guidance. Cheers, HopsonRoad (talk) 13:22, 19 May 2018 (UTC)

WPBio review

Hello! First, my thanks for your review of Cami Bradley. Second, would you be so kind as to have a look at The Sweeplings? TIA. —ATS (talk) 19:49, 24 May 2018 (UTC)

Much obliged. —ATS (talk) 06:02, 25 May 2018 (UTC)

Rodolph Crandall

Hello,

I believe you created the Rodolph Crandall wiki page. I'm trying to find a descendant of his and obtain a copy of his diary/letters in order to learn more about one of his brothers I'm researching for a historical book. Can you help me? royaleverest AT gmail Thank you so much. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:645:0:12D0:59EF:58AD:945B:C600 (talk) 20:22, 27 May 2018 (UTC)

Please review Caillou Pettis

Can you please look over the draft available for the article on Caillou Pettis and see if it is good to submit for actual publication? Thanks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by SimplyBatman22 (talk • contribs) 04:32, 2 June 2018 (UTC)

Precious anniversary

Precious

Five years!

--Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:41, 4 June 2018 (UTC)

... and seven! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:13, 4 June 2020 (UTC)

Feedback request

Hi Aboutmovies,

You reviewed a page I created, Robin Tewes. An editor put a "tone" tag on the page since then. I have made some edits to address what may have caused that and hoped that you could take a look to see if you thought the tag is warranted. This is mostly for future reference, for any future writing I might do. If it's too much to ask, I understand. Best, --Mianvar1 (talk) 19:16, 11 July 2018 (UTC)

I only read the first paragraph and would agree with the tone tag. Take a look at the opening paragraph to Vincent van Gogh, which is a featured article class (AKA the best of the best). While clearly not comparable in their stature, notice how Ms. Tewes' artwork seems to get more ink if you will. Van Gogh's article covers some key details in a matter of fact way. Tewes goes to great lengths about style in very detailed ways, ways that are I think too subjective at least for the lead. Some of that is appropriate later, but needs to really be more directly attributed to individuals. As in, Bob the art critic has described her work as personal. Otherwise, the tone as it is, is what I would expect to find in a brochure at one of her showings, and this is an encyclopedia. You have a lot of good sources, it is just in need of some tweaking. Aboutmovies (talk) 07:01, 12 July 2018 (UTC)

Thanks for the constructive feedback. When I get a chance, I'll take a look at the Van Gogh page and then look at where I can make edits and incorporate your other feedback. --Mianvar1 (talk) 15:34, 16 July 2018 (UTC)

Request Assessment

• AB: Can you take a look at this article on Alan L. Gropman I just uploaded. It's not related to Oregon, but I know you're also member of Wiki-People so you're eligible to do assessment if/when you have time. Thanks!--Orygun (talk) 00:10, 11 August 2018 (UTC)

• Thanks!--Orygun (talk) 07:03, 11 August 2018 (UTC)

No problem, but how dare you write an article not involving Oregon! Aboutmovies (talk) 21:18, 11 August 2018 (UTC)

• Well, I'm back in Oregon grove now...just uploaded article on Oregon Military Museum.--Orygun (talk) 05:17, 16 September 2018 (UTC)

Discussion to be canceled

https://wikivividly.com/Wikipedia:Sockpuppet_investigations/Massimo_Chiacchio_1997/Archive Can you delete this thread? It appears on search engines with my name. Massi (Report bug) 12:30, 1 September 2018 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 87.13.201.200 (talk)

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Edgar Stuart, Duke of Cambridge

You rated this article a stub. He lived less than four years. Parents baptism godparents death burial legacy. Bmclaughlin9 (talk) 12:01, 16 October 2018 (UTC)

It was rated a stub over a decade ago. Usually it is poor form to remove the rating, as we have an assessment program WP:BIOG/A. More to the point, even if an article is as complete as you can get it, does not mean it is not a stub. My first article will likely never rise above a start, despite it being the most complete biography I have ever found, as it simply is not a complete telling of the story of the subject. Information has been lost to time, likely forever, but that does not mean the article should then be say a GA. Aboutmovies (talk) 03:19, 17 October 2018 (UTC)

Thanks for welcome.

Thanks! Am enjoying the work of my wikipedia fellow group; good training so far.

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First, I really wish people would learn to read. You know, the ALL CAPS PART at the top of the page.

Secondly, WTF? Seriously, WTF? I do like to think of myself as a god and all, but I am not all-knowing so I have no idea what you are talking about. This is why we have links. Maybe a title of the article you are talking about, and more importantly why this involves me. Otherwise, best I can tell is I welcomed you back in 2010, as in 8 freaking years ago and now you have some question about some edit I had nothing to do with? Seriously? Ask the person involved. Aboutmovies (talk) 04:54, 22 November 2018 (UTC)

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• AB: Once again, can I prevail upon you to review a non-Oregonian bio article? Article is on Civil War historian A. Wilson Greene. Will be back doing Oregon articles next month. Also, am planning to do article on Truman W. Collins in Jan/Feb. Thought you might be interested as Willamette law grad.--Orygun (talk) 01:47, 24 November 2018 (UTC)

• Thanks!--Orygun (talk) 02:56, 24 November 2018 (UTC)

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Oregon Mandolin Orchestra page

Hi Aboutmovies,

I see that you created the page about the Oregon Mandolin Orchestra -- bravo.

I recently tried to edit the page, revising it with more current information. But my efforts were off the mark. I am affiliated with the orchestra, so I have a conflict of interest. I used language that sounded too biased/promotional and my footnotes weren't up to snuff.

So, I am hoping that someone will update the orchestra's page. My edits remain in the page history. Would you be willing to take a look and see if any of that information is Wiki-worthy? And if so, would you be interested in taking it on?

For example, the OMO's music director has been Christian McKee -- not Brian Oberlin -- since April 2017. The orchestra has been based in Portland -- not Hillsboro -- since 2016. Most of the concerts are not in Hillsboro, either.

I realize that I did this the wrong way. But can you help make it right?

If not, do you have any other ideas?

Thanks,

Oremandos (talk) 21:57, 24 March 2019 (UTC)Oremandos

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Hello. After my tremendous effort in creating and refining Suzy Williams, it's rather dismaying to see it receive such a poor class rating! What can be done to improve its rating? --Dr.bobbs (talk) 14:24, 30 May 2019 (UTC) Aboutmovies can you help us improve the rating for Suzy Williams. We are willing to do anything to comply. ~Debocracy debocracy (talk) 20:34, 30 May 2019 (UTC)

My comments on the talk page. Aboutmovies (talk) 21:04, 30 May 2019 (UTC)

@Aboutmovies: Hello again and thank you for your recommendations. I and others have made several improvements to Suzy Williams, including my expansion of the lede, which I believe I have done by summarizing only the facts and avoiding peacock praise. I'd greatly appreciate if you could take another look. --Dr.bobbs (talk) 21:16, 20 June 2019 (UTC)

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Assessment of Oregon article

Just uploaded couple of new articles. Brooks-Scanlon Lumber Company article was quickly assessed as START. When I asked for comments on how to improve the article, assessor raised rating to but didn’t offer any improvement suggestions. Would you look at the article and confirm Oregon assessment? Company has been out of business for 25 years and I went through decades of old newspapers to put together the article which I though was pretty good. Would like your opinion as unofficial Wiki-Oregon reviewer. Also, would you review related Brooks Resources if you have time.--Orygun (talk) 03:11, 30 June 2019 (UTC)

I just copy edited a few paragraphs to show what needs to be done in that respect. Also, to make it to B, you need more on the company's other operations. You note it started in MN, but there is little else there. Aboutmovies (talk) 08:49, 1 July 2019 (UTC)

• Thanks!--Orygun (talk) 04:07, 7 July 2019 (UTC)

• FYI, have added 8 new paragraphs covering Brooks-Scanlon operations in Minnesota, Florida, and British Columbia. Wasn't even aware that the company had operations in Florida so really appreciate pointing me toward other operating areas. Thanks again!--Orygun (talk) 02:46, 18 July 2019 (UTC)

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hey

We kinda used to do Oregon stuff together. Peregrine Fisher (talk) 07:53, 11 January 2020 (UTC)

I didn't do much for the last 10 years. But I've been mucking around a bit lately. And I saw you are still around. You and I weren't that good of friends back in the day, but we had a mutual friend. Can't remember who. Not VanTucky. But someone who knew me, you, and vantucky. Peregrine Fisher (talk) 07:57, 11 January 2020 (UTC)

Probably Pete, he was big on collaboration back in the day. I'm around some, but not that much anymore, mostly too much real life things going on. Aboutmovies (talk) 19:25, 11 January 2020 (UTC)

Who? Valfontis (talk) 02:09, 12 January 2020 (UTC)

Oh, hello. Greetings and salutations. I'm still around, but often busier at Wikisource. And hello Esprqii and {{u|EncMstr. -Pete Forsyth (talk) 18:15, 13 January 2020 (UTC)

Valf is here too! tedder (talk) 18:31, 13 January 2020 (UTC)

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I'm not familiar enough with the FL criteria anymore to provide any assistance. Aboutmovies (talk) 08:13, 19 February 2020 (UTC)

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Hi Aboutmovies! Just thought I'd reach out to see if you wanted to nominate Hall/Nimbus station for GA. Just did some minor clean up and updates. I think it'll pass pretty easily. --truflip99 (talk) 02:01, 25 April 2020 (UTC)

You go ahead. I'm not really on enough with all the time to do the work anymore. Aboutmovies (talk) 03:16, 26 April 2020 (UTC)

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Thank you for adding my house to the Misplaced Pages listing for buildings on the National Register. Two changes — it is not a mansion. Secondly, my name is spelled Kim Hancey Duffy. I am the author of the listing as well as the owner of the house. Also, it’s interesting that you picked out the one feature to mention, that the copper roof failed. There are many other interesting facts to pick out of the narrative. Again, thank you for adding it to the listings. Kimhancey (talk) 14:26, 15 August 2020 (UTC)

Assuming the above link is for the article in question, I have no idea what you are talking about. I have never edited that article. Aboutmovies (talk) 23:52, 15 August 2020 (UTC)

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My name's Rachel and I'm in the process of re-designing a set of historical panels for the city of Wilsonville. Would you be willing to grant us permission to use the photo Wilsonville Memorial Park trail.JPG ? If so, we would of course attribute you with "Photo Courtesy: M.O. Stevens." Thanks for your consideration. Look forward to hearing from you! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 50.39.148.204 (talk) 23:00, 4 November 2021 (UTC)

Rachel, yes, that's fine. Thanks for asking. Aboutmovies (talk) 04:46, 5 November 2021 (UTC)

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Hi. I’m not sure if it was you or someone else who rated/assessed Ahmed Umar (artist) article as a start. To be honest it was a bit disappointing as I though the article should at least get a C. anyway, I wonder if you are able to give a feedback to help improving the quality of the article (even you if were not the one to assess it am sure you have expertise to weigh in) FuzzyMagma (talk) 00:39, 23 November 2022 (UTC)

The issue is the early life section. Two sentences cover about 20 years of their life, or more than half of their life. I understand little is known, but without more the article is incomplete. We have articlex that have all there is to know about 2000 year old Romans, but when that article is only a paragraph long, it is still a stub. Aboutmovies (talk) 05:04, 24 November 2022 (UTC)

Got that .. will revert the rating back then. Hopefully with time more information reveals itself and that section improves. Thnx @Aboutmovies … FuzzyMagma (talk) 20:58, 27 November 2022 (UTC)

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