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Anthony Cox

Here described as "an American jazz musician, film producer, and art promoter". I cross referenced and only found mention that he was indeed a film producer and art promoter. I believe here he may be confused with a much younger Anthony Cox listed as a jazz musician. I do not want to edit without approval of an overseer as I am not even sure I know how and I want to be in agreement before I would do that. Njbrucetx (talk) 09:07, 6 October 2022 (UTC)

Here is Anthony Cox, jazz musician: https://en.wikipedia.org/Anthony_Cox_(musician). He and the identically named husband of Yoko Ono are very obviously two different people. I'm fixing this. Dgndenver (talk) 19:09, 4 March 2024 (UTC)

Beacon Theatre NYC

Does anyone know if Ono was involved with theater management at any time? Artificial Nagger (talk) 04:39, 25 February 2023 (UTC)

Written with the assistance of Ono's PR department?

Yes, seriously. It looks this way. Take the Relationship with the Beatles subsection as an example. The biscuit incident. The info was provided by a NYC based rock journalist (know anyone else based there?) who was not in the studio at the time and for all I know not even around at all. I have read elsewhere that this is what actually happened: all of the other three Beatles were upset about her continual presence in the studio and found it hard to work together. It had always been the four of them, plus producer, engineer, etc. Ono is recovering from injury, so has to lay on a bed 24/7, were led to believe. George goes up to the control room, from which he can observe the studio. Ono thinks she cannot be seen, gets out of bed and walks across to help herself to the biscuits. So we have the hypocrisy, the lying need to be in the bed and the disruption that Ono had brought to the studio. But in this article that biscuit incident is turned around so that George is put in a bad light. We have a journalist who was around at the time saying that having her in the studio all the time on the bed put a strain on the band, but reported by Misplaced Pages like this: journalist Miles "thought" that it caused problems. So yes, the article looks to me as if it were written by Ono's PR department. Boscaswell talk 22:31, 10 March 2023 (UTC)

Absolutely agree. There is plenty of objective material out there, which is critical of Ono and which needs to be reflected. The view that she was divisive and a talentless charlatan has to be added to capture balance. Only about 4 lines in the current article mention criticism. Kentish 18:41 14 March 2023 (GMT) 86.3.134.204 (talk) 18:42, 14 March 2023 (UTC)
The article is fairly well-balanced. Please keep in mind that we don't follow a 50/50 balance: the article addresses criticism and public-perception. Anything more and it becomes non-neutral and editorializing. You're asking us to draw conclusions from that situation and that's not what we do. freshacconci (✉) 01:42, 15 March 2023 (UTC)

Addition of Double Fantasy to the article narrative

I put most of this in my edit summary, but wanted to provide additional information and context here as well.

Ono's story is told narratively and chronologically throughout the article, yet when it reaches the time of the release of Double Fantasy, this album was completely absent outside of an oblique reference to John's inspiration for it. It serves to actually decontextualize John's shooting, and narratively it makes no sense. The article must spend at least an appropriate amount of time discussing Double Fantasy, a Grammy award winning Album that has been consistently ranked as one of the best of the 1980s.

Other corrections include adding additional context to who Sam Havadtoy was, as well as adding the detail above that of Yoko cradling John and her fear of assassination. Those two things both come from the same article/interview of Ono that brought up Sam Havadtoy - https://thegentlewoman.co.uk/library/yoko-ono . I hoped to replace this passive aggressive, negatively valenced sentence with something more balanced and appropriate. Finally, since I added information about Double Fantasy, I also added a small bit of information about the reappraisal of it in light of subsequent events.

Information about the album was taken only from the cited article here - https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-lists/100-best-albums-of-the-eighties-150477/john-lennon-and-yoko-ono-double-fantasy-150731/ - and the existing article on Double Fantasy on this site.

Thanks to others who maintain this article, and sorry if my edits were not formatted or cited correctly. Boofasten (talk) 04:30, 27 March 2024 (UTC)

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