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Welcome to WP, hitherto "quiet" one!! My page has a link to the page that tells you how to get your anonymous edits attributed to you.

When you tell us a bit more about yourself, there may be lots of us happy to show you where to exercise your particular interests and skills. But a daily skim through "Recent changes" is likely to show up something of interest. Best wishes! Robin Patterson 00:43, 28 Jun 2004 (UTC)

Tables

How to use tables

ISS Expedition 10

Mission Insignia

Re: your contribution to Misplaced Pages:How to use tables#Possible problems - I can't quite picture what you're describing. The only time I've seen text go too close to a table border, it was due to the use of pre or some other non-breaking text block. Think you could post a screenshot of what you have in mind?

At any rate, I wouldn't give too much attention to that page anymore, since it's much easier (IMHO) to use the wiki markup for HTML tables. Though, those tips may still apply. -- Wapcaplet 15:02, 4 Jul 2004 (UTC)

• You can use Upload file link to post an image. Usually PNG or Jpeg is the best format for actual use, so convert it if you know how, but for this temporary purpose it's fine to leave it as bitmap. Check out Misplaced Pages:Uploading images for more details. Or you can just email it to me so I can check it out (see my user page for my address). -- Wapcaplet 19:12, 4 Jul 2004 (UTC)

Table image centering

Your use of a table within a table does work, but I have also found that using a "center within a center" also works (at least in mozilla-based browsers). Use a "center" tag in the image link and align=center in the cell properties. The code below produces the box shown at upper right.

{| border=1 cellpadding=2 width=350 cellspacing=0 align=right  style=margin-left:0.5em;
|+<font size=+1>''' ISS Expedition 10 '''</font>
|-
!colspan=2 cellspacing=0 cellpadding=2 bgcolor=#FFDEAD|Mission Insignia
|-
|colspan=2 align=center|
]
|-
|}

—Mike 04:06, Sep 12, 2004 (UTC)

That's weird: I see your version as left-justified under Netscape 7.1 (Mozilla 5.0), but it works ok under MIE 6.0 (NCSA Mosaic), which is contrary to what you said. What version of Mozilla do you have? ] 11:04, 12 Sep 2004 (UTC)

HoR table

Ya know, you tamper with my baby, you don't expect me to get mad?!@# ... bah, who am I kidding, the change is good. Perhaps a little heavy on the horizontal, but 16 districts seems to be the max that my 1600x1200 setup can handle - let alone most people's smaller resolution. So widening them to make them readable and not scrunch up certain congresses seems to be a Very Good Idea. Just wish I had thought of it myself. :) Thanks! I'll pop that in to the others. PS: I think the reason I didn't do that before was because I never (well, anymore) set specific widths on tables, simply for that reason, because everyone's resolution is different, but in these cases, exceptions could be made. Maybe every table above 10 districts? I'll look with my work computer (1024x768) and see which get bunched up. Thanks for the idea. :) --Golbez 14:22, Sep 10, 2004 (UTC)

Bingo

You, sir, are a legend. Muchos kudos on the table help! I dub thee master of the tables. - Ta bu shi da yu 13:03, 16 Oct 2004 (UTC)

Just to let you know that I actually did something useful with your help on tables. See Strathfield#Religion. Cheers! - Ta bu shi da yu 15:14, 16 Oct 2004 (UTC)

OK, try this code for getting rid of those dratted spaces between the lines (see User:Ta bu shi da yu/Sandbox):

9 lines

9 lines is really smooth. Thanks -- I really appreciate it. Where would a good place on the tables tutorial to post this? Lots of other articles looking at verbal tenses would benefit from tables like this.Zantastik 04:40, 5 Feb 2005 (UTC)

Tables

Hi, I noticed your note about table syntax on your user page. You mentioned that style coding could not be found in the HTML spec. This is because it is not in the HTML syntax! Not meaning to be facetious, but there it is... In fact, styles are defined under the CSS spec. CSS works alongside but separately from HTML to create a webpage. Smoddy (t) (e) (c) 20:29, 7 Feb 2005 (UTC)

Dealing with vandalism

Revert

Not a problem :) Do you know how to report those bastards to RC Patrol or similar? It's the first time I see someone THAT pointlessly aggressive.--Ëzhiki 19:03, Jul 15, 2004 (UTC)

Thanks

For reverting the vandalism. What a weird thing. So someone vandalized my page (not in sonnet form) as user:G14. Now, the only contributions from that user were the vandalisms. The vandalism was all about Misplaced Pages policy. I.e. this is a regular user who logged out, created a new account (!) and then did the vandalism. Well, so much for the quality of our colleagues. Thanks for the reversion. Geogre 01:38, 11 Oct 2004 (UTC)

Admins

My nomination for adminship

Thank you for supporting my nomination for adminship. I will do my best to serve Misplaced Pages. --Slowking Man 00:07, Oct 13, 2004 (UTC)

Admin nomination

G'day mate, thanks for supporting my nomination for admin! - Ta bu shi da yu 02:46, 15 Oct 2004 (UTC)

Industrial Revolution

Faulty sources

Thanks for your comment. I think you are referring to my remark on the Samuel Smiles page about not accepting his work as the final word. Too many writers on the history of technology have uncritically adopted his line. Its much worse now several of his writings are on the Web and can be cut and pasted into documents.

The problem with Smiles is that he left out a number of worthy engineers, and in consequence later writers have not bothered to investigate them. We have got to the stage where Isambard Kingdom Brunel's laundry lists are thought worthy of investigation but Sir Samuel Bentham, arguably the father of mass production still awaits a proper biography. There is a mass of material on his brother Jeremy, and an extraordiary amount on the Panopticon, which seems to interest social and penal historians.

Have a look at the website of Making of the Modern World at the National Musuem of Science and Industry, London (Science Musuem) which has quite a lot of useful stuff, including animations

I don't know where you are based, but in the UK the history of technology is not an academic subject, its the domain of independent workers. Apwoolrich 18:06, 8 Aug 2004 (UTC)

British Industrial Revolution Template

Sorry, I just don't buy it. There was far more going on; far more people, places, things ... one box will never cover it. Categorisation works much better for me. I cannot support you one this one - the box is too big asn has too much missing. (btw, there is now a structure on talk:public limited company --Tagishsimon

Hi, you might care to add Portsmouth Block Mills to your table Apwoolrich 07:05, 2 Oct 2004 (UTC)

Done - thanks for the pointer. Cheers, ] 09:01, 2 Oct 2004 (UTC)

Mumbles and Swansea Railway

Thanks Noisy. Nice edit and good luck with your project.

--Emdec 20:14, 19 Oct 2004 (UTC)

Puddling / pudding

The Google poll says:

"puddling furnace" 2080

"pudding furnace" 462, the first few of which are Wiki clones

The OED says, under puddling, vbl. n.

3. a. The process of decarbonizing cast iron by stirring and turning it over continuously in a furnace, so as to render it malleable.

and does not have anything related to ferrous metallurgy under pudding. Though I can easily see how puddling could be corrupted to pudding, since puddled iron has about the consistency of pudding. Shimmin 23:09, Feb 10, 2005 (UTC)

Yes, it's puddling

Although there seem to be many valid uses of Pudding as well. User:Maury Markowitz

Abington School District v. Schempp

Thanks :) I've got heaps to do still, but if you can start the cleanup process that would be great. I was going to comment on it, then start cleanup (if it's possible). I suspect vast chunks of information will be carved out of the article before it's up to scratch!

Ta bu shi da yu 14:35, 29 Jun 2004 (UTC)

Ladies

Dictdefs are not grounds for speedy deletion. And if you'll read the bottom of the VfD page, you'll see there are two ways to do it. RickK 04:26, Jul 13, 2004 (UTC)

No I will not revert all my changes. Thats not the way it works. The category needs to be depopulated first. The category page deletion itself can be reversed, but there needs to be a more active consensus, to deal with it. See my post on the WP:VP. Thanks. -Stevertigo 17:43, 15 Jul 2004 (UTC)

Your User page is distinctly useful

Such a short time after you signed up, too! Thanks for the recent note. Plimmerton, on the north shore of the Porirua Harbour, is a picturesque half-hour train ride (including New Zealand's fourth-longest tunnel) out of central Wellington. I work in the latter; 4709542 is likely to find me between 7.50 and 6 most weekdays. Are you a Kiwi? - Robin Patterson 01:24, 16 Jul 2004 (UTC)

Hayford Peirce

• • Hi Noisy, Thanks for your kind note to me at my user page. And thanks for the really nice tweaking you did at the Pro Tennis page. I just looked at it and the settings now seem very simple and very clear. If I'd had a template like that to start with it would have been a cinch to set up the article in the first place.
    • I did think about the "Championship" business before I got started but I decided to go with the plural anyway because I'm going to list two different Championship tournaments at this site, the Wembley one, which I'm working on, and the U.S. championships as soon as I get the info. So I think that the plural is indicated in this case. But, as you say, I can always go back and change it here and there later. Or some nit-picking WPian can do it for me, hehe....
    • Thanks for the tip about where to respond to someone like you. I've only had a dialogue a couple of times with anyone, and I was baffled about where exactly I should be sending my replies....All the best,Hayford Peirce 16:51, 18 Jul 2004 (UTC)

delete empty category with no history

You seem to have created a large number of categories that previously did not exist, just to put the CFD message on those category pages. Don't Do That!! --ssd 12:00, 7 Aug 2004 (UTC)

Just figured out that they disappear if the last item that uses that category is removed. Sorry. Noisy 12:06, 7 Aug 2004 (UTC)

S'okay, as long as you figgure it out.  :) BTW, Category:Air Force was still listed on Special:categories for a while even though it was empty and had no article, I don't know if it is still there. Bugs. *sigh* WP:CFD can't really delete the category, just discuss moving everything out of the category and deleting its description page, which usually deletes it. --ssd 14:52, 7 Aug 2004 (UTC)

Space Navigation Bars

Noisy, the idea behind templates and navigation bars was to standardize articles on manned space missions and try to make them uniform. All of the other missions from Vostok 1 and Mercury 3 through STS-107 and Soyuz TMA-4 are laid out according to the WikiProject_Space_Missions project recommendations. On all of them the Navigation Bar is at the bottom, the Template is on the upper right, and the Crew and Mission Parameters are on the upper left. Rusty 14:08, 15 Aug 2004 (UTC)

Your vote needed at George_W._Bush

Please go here, ASAP and vote.

Rex071404 07:11, 16 Aug 2004 (UTC)

New Bush vote now under way - please vote

Here

Rex071404 15:59, 16 Aug 2004 (UTC)

==Rationality vs rationalism== (moved to Talk page Noisy 23:11, 21 Aug 2004 (UTC)) Rationality describing economic behavior refers to a set of behavioral principles such as maximization, minimization, non-deterministic choice subject to constraints (e.g avoidance of pain, bounded rationality). In practical terms these behavioral principles supply a set of assumptions which simplify the analysis of (human, consumer, investor) behavior. This has nothing to with rationalism as a worldview.CSTAR 19:13, 21 Aug 2004 (UTC)

Sorry I responded on the wrong page to your question CSTAR 19:44, 21 Aug 2004 (UTC)

AstraZeneca plc

I agree with mushing "Astra Zeneca" together, but the "plc" seems pretty fishy. I don't think most company articles include the "inc", "ltd". Maybe list AstraZeneca on Misplaced Pages:Redirects for deletion? Mackerm 07:40, 10 Sep 2004 (UTC)

I did have a bit of a crisis of confidence halfway through resolving all the redirects. but I'd started, so I finished. I specifically checked on the global website, and, although the copyright statement on each page just said AstraZeneca, evidence seemed to point to it being AstraZeneca plc. See at the foot of this legal notice where it says: "References to "AstraZeneca", "Group", "we", "us" and "our" are references to AstraZeneca PLC and its affiliates." My opinion is that the entity should be listed under its formal name (although that leaves the question of whether it should be plc or PLC ;-) (see public limited company, where all the company entries are listed with the lower case version)).

I am also of the opinion that all redirects should be left in place to stop someone coming along and creating a new article when one already exists.

If your feelings are strong on this matter, then get back to me and we can work something out. Alternatively, if you can find a Misplaced Pages policy statement on usage of Inc., Ltd., plc, AB etc. then I'll abide by what it says there, or contribute to a discussion. ] 09:08, 10 Sep 2004 (UTC)

Astra Zeneca

Hi Noisy, I didn't notice that you had made a statement on the talk page before moving the article, and thank you for pointing it out. However, I do not agree that it needed to be moved. See the talk page for further discussion on this. Cheers. -- Mic 21:07, 13 Sep 2004 (UTC)

Infobox Biography

What exactly is wrong with it - its style is set by id="toc", i.e. it uses the same skinning as image boxes and table of contents boxes. If you have a problem with the infobox you have have a problem with your monobook.css :). ed g2s • talk 18:10, 10 Sep 2004 (UTC)

Noisy, would you please "vote" on the Charles Darwin talk page? Netoholic is giving me a hard time because I made the mistake of calling it a vote when I was really tracking opinions. (If I misrepresented you as opposed to the infobox, I apologize BTW.) Cheers, Vincent 02:58, 16 Sep 2004 (UTC)

Template:Infobox Biography

What, exactly, do you dislike about the template? It's not perfect, I admit, but then I didn't create it, just had a pain to make it usable. The formatting is Misplaced Pages house style ("id=toc"), so if that's what you dislike, I'm most certainly the wrong person to talk to: see Mediawiki talk:Monobook.css for that.
James F. (talk) 18:10, 10 Sep 2004 (UTC)

You keep removing the infobox from Winston Chruchill, last time with the comment (removed infobox until it has been fixed). What exactly is broken with the infobox? The current version works fine - is stable, and has even been protected. ed g2s • talk 00:06, 12 Sep 2004 (UTC)

I'm sorry to hear this situation has caused you much stress, but you have still failed to explain what exactly is broken in the infobox, despite numerous queries. If you can't explain what isn't working - I can't see the point of you reverts. ed g2s • talk 00:04, 13 Sep 2004 (UTC)

Redirects

Hi - I had specifically chosen those redirects because they were what Maxwell-Fyfe was called at the time (ordinary name when he became a PC and was Home Secretary, Viscount Kilmuir when he was Lord Chancellor, Earl of Kilmuir when he retired). I think it is a bit misleading to have all links go directly to Earl of Kilmuir. 172.186.77.192

I have left the text in the article itself alone (i.e. what the person was called at the time of the event in question); it is only the redirect that has been changed. It is standard practice to elide redirects (Misplaced Pages:How to edit a page#Links and URLs), and (although I'm not part of the community that decided on the convention) the way of naming the main article should follow a standard rule. Your creation of the redirect at David Maxwell-Fyfe was the correct thing to do, but that is primarily to support searching, rather than for general usage in article space.

I left a welcome message for you at the talk page of the IP you were using. Please take the trouble to create an account. It's the work of a few seconds, and you get additional whizzy features, such as the capability to move pages. Cheers, ] 07:56, 18 Sep 2004 (UTC)

Well, I went for a search for more detailed policy direction on elision of redirects. I haven't found any, to date, other than that under Misplaced Pages:Redirect — and that isn't explicit at all. In general, when you click 'What links here', you would expect to see everything pointing directly at the page you're on, rather than via redirects. I don't know, but I presume that this is to reduce server load (by reducing the additional code executed each time you click on a link that gets redirected). ] 08:56, 18 Sep 2004 (UTC)

Clarification has been requested at Misplaced Pages:Village pump (policy). ] 09:14, 18 Sep 2004 (UTC)

Language name order

Hi - I see you changed the order of a few of the languages of the Winston Churchill article. The usual order languages appear in is the order of the names of each language, not language-code order. Hence Hebrew appears collated as "Ivrit", Japanese as "Nihongo", and Chinese as "Zhonguen". -- Arwel 11:44, 18 Sep 2004 (UTC)

So Albanian (SQ) comes before Dutch (NL), which comes before French (FR), which comes before German (DE), which comes before Welsh (CY)?. Err, no you misunderstand that. For those languages the order would be Cymraeg, Deutsch, Francais, Nederlands, Shqip. In most cases the order is the same as the language code, it's just the non-Western alphabet languages that cause some confusion. On most languages homepages the "Misplaced Pages in other languages" section is in this order -- the en: homepage used to be in this order too, until some months ago someone changed them to the alphabetical order of the English language-name, which caused considerable confusion as people couldn't find the links in the place they expected; eventually it got reorganised based on the size of the Misplaced Pages in that language, which was at least a bit more logical from the multilingual point of view. -- Arwel 12:40, 18 Sep 2004 (UTC)

The 100 (book)

Hi,

On the talk page of The 100 (book) you wrote: Boy, that guy Hart has a big problem with reality. Could you possibly elaborate why do you think so? I really liked this book, but perhaps I missed something about it. I'd like to know your opinion. Przepla 21:44, 19 Sep 2004 (UTC)

Steve Jones

Hi there; I've replied to your query at User talk:Hadal#S Jones is not a prominent evolutionary biologist. (Normally I'd put my reply to you on your talk page, but I thought it best not to fragment the thread since it's a few days old already.) Cheers, -- Hadal 09:13, 26 Sep 2004 (UTC)

Owen Jones

No, I'm afraid I have never worked in a bank in Manchester. Thanks for the tips though, and it's nice to hear from someone. Owen Jones 20:19, Sep 27, 2004 (UTC)

Inappropriate CSD

Hello, Noisy. You nominated Joan of Arc (cross-dressing) as a CSD, which was not in line with consensus decisions and Misplaced Pages policy. Please read Talk:Joan of Arc (cross-dressing), Misplaced Pages:Candidates for speedy deletion and Misplaced Pages:Deletion policy if you are confused about the policy. —siroχo 11:52, Oct 23, 2004 (UTC)

Thanks for the reply. You're probably thinking of the CSD case for "Reposted content that was deleted according to Misplaced Pages deletion policy.", which is not quite the case here. Certainly the merge should be performed and the article changed to a redirect, but there is no deletion involved in merging and redireecting. If this article was deleted and re-instated by a method other than undeletion, then it would be a CSD. Anyways, if you do complete the merge, it should be redirected. The main purpose of the redirect in a case like this is to preserve the history of the article, since a history merge isn't really an option here. —siroχo 12:08, Oct 23, 2004 (UTC)

I'm not sure if it can be speedy deleted just because the original author wanted it to be, it still doesn't apply to any CSD case. Probably would need to be put up for WP:RFD. —siroχo 22:57, Oct 23, 2004 (UTC)

Poll

I have created a preliminary version of Misplaced Pages:VfD decisions not backed by current policies/poll. Your comments would be much appreciated. - SimonP 17:09, Oct 23, 2004 (UTC)

Ordering

Ordering of interwiki links and categories was switched ON SPECIFIC REQUEST FROM PEOPLE ON THIS WIKIPEDIA. It's easy enough to switch that around - it does it the way you want on all other Wikipedias. But on English I was told it was wanted the other way around. Apparently it's not. Bless me! - Andre Engels 07:11, 25 Oct 2004 (UTC)

I hereby demand apologies for your remarks. I also promise to use the order requested by you in the future. - Andre Engels 07:34, 25 Oct 2004 (UTC)

Cats and interwiki

See what I wrote on User talk:Robbot under the "Cats go below interwiki?" heading. —Lowellian (talk)] 21:10, Oct 25, 2004 (UTC)

How to stop line breaks

That's what   is for. Underscores look ugly. -- Tim Starling 09:50, Nov 18, 2004 (UTC)

Thank you for saying hello

Noisy,

I am gratefull for your visit to my talk page. I have been having maddening dificulties with the comunity portal and have been unable to contact other members here. Its good to know theres somebody out there :) My first task as a ananymous user (my spelling is horribble but i usually spelcheck my article and edidts) Was to add a article to a link that lead to nowhere (id never come across a link that did not have a article at the end) Fraser magnolia Since its a obscure little plant, no ones seen it to edidt it for problems (it must have problems; it was my first action on this site)

I still do not know how to put my signature on my article. With or without help, i am going to Create articles for magnolia page links that lead to nowhere, and include unlisted species.

Thanks again!

Fledgeling

Redirect you created at "Wolverhampton & Dudley Breweries plc"

Hi, you created a redirect from Wolverhampton & Dudley Breweries plc to Wolverhampton & Dudley Breweries PLC, but there is currently no article at Wolverhampton & Dudley Breweries PLC. (It may have been deleted since the redirect was created.) Misplaced Pages policy is to get rid of redirects to non-existent pages, and someone listed Wolverhampton & Dudley Breweries plc on WP:RfD If you want the redirect to stay, you will need to create something at Wolverhampton & Dudley Breweries PLC (even a stub will do), or else the redirect will go away. If you do create the target, you don't have to do anything on WP:RfD (we'll eventually notice the target is there), but if you do, just delete the entry for Wolverhampton & Dudley Breweries plc. Thanks! Noel (talk) 03:59, 29 Nov 2004 (UTC)

Great, thanks! I'll delete the RfD entry. Noel (talk) 19:05, 29 Nov 2004 (UTC)

London WikiMeet

Just a note to say that it was a real pleasure meeting up with you last night. I look forward to another opportunity to meet sometime in the future. -- Graham ☺ | Talk 08:28, 4 Dec 2004 (UTC)

Mediation

Hello Noisy. Andre Engels has requested mediation at Misplaced Pages:Requests_for_mediation#Andre_Engels_and_Noisy. Would you be willing to take part? Please let me know on that page. Thanks -- sannse (talk) 17:50, 8 Dec 2004 (UTC)

shed meaning

Yeah, i agree with how you handled shed. Infact, i ended up in the shed page from aacne page. That is how i noticed the link dont make sense as the way the word shed was used in the acne page was not present. Not sure whether my last sentence is free of ambiguity, but hopes you will get what i am trying to say

Elona Bojaxhi is not a Copy Violation

Hi Noisy, I checked the link that was added and the site New York Models copied a version of the April 12, 2004 article from Misplaced Pages! I did not get my info from that website! They are the ones that have taken in formation and photos of this model from various places including Misplaced Pages. The article does not have to be re-written as far as I'm concerned since New York City Models took their info from an article that I started.

Misplaced Pages claims that the information on it is free to use I believe and so someone took the article from it. I'm not making this up, I don't think there was even a listing on New York Models when I wrote the article in April for I did an internet search on her before I started the article. Ebbpeg

Charles Darwin

I have just asked for arbitration. From you I have asked the committee to request you stop removing the fact from the article. Vincent 04:55, 9 Jan 2005 (UTC)

Please see my comments at Misplaced Pages:Requests for arbitration/Vfp15 and Charles Darwin/Evidence gK ¿? 03:00, 10 Jan 2005 (UTC)

Rejection by the arbitration committee means they won't hear the case, not that they found against me. I limited myself to naming the still active worst offenders. I pursue this as matter of principle. I only need two claims to back me up: 1) it's factual and 2) it passes the Misplaced Pages:Google test. That's enough to justify inclusion somewhere in the article. Vincent 03:18, 10 Jan 2005 (UTC)

WP:RfD

Ah, in deleting those entries from WP:RfD, did you happen to see the note at the top of the page asking:

When you delete an entry from this page, please make sure to put in the edit summary for that deletion a message indicating i) the name of the removed entry, and ii) the date it was placed here ... This makes it easy for people looking through the page history to find

I've added a entry to the history giving the data for the ones that were removed.

BTW, two of those three entries were still there because they didn't quality for a speedy deletion, but some admin deleted them anyway prior to the one-week delay specified by policy; in such cases I leave them for the whole week anyway in case someone wants to comment (and argue for keeping them), not because I was just feeling lazy about deleting their entries. Noel (talk) 23:07, 14 Jan 2005 (UTC)

Arbitration

I'm requesting for an arbitration against you (see WP:RfAr) for the Dawrin/Lincoln problem as Vincent's advocate. Actually, I don't know why I must send this message (ArbCom's requirements) --Neigel von Teighen 22:45, 24 Jan 2005 (UTC)

Arbitration Committee case opening

You have been named as a disputant in the recently opened Charles Darwin/Lincoln dispute case brought before the Arbitration Committee. You may wish to add evidence to Misplaced Pages:Requests for arbitration/Charles Darwin/Lincoln dispute/Evidence to support your case. -- Grunt 🇪🇺 03:32, 2005 Jan 25 (UTC)

Great Game

May I ask you to answer one question on the Great Game talk page which I posed specifically toward your response? —Lowellian (talk) 05:15, Jan 26, 2005 (UTC)

Misplaced Pages:Requests for comment/WikiUser

I hope very much you will go back to this page, read what I have posted (along with checking the links I provide), and consider altering your position. I believe (though I may be wrong) that you were not aware of the facts of the case when you made the statements you did. Thanks very much for at least giving my position some consideration. Jwrosenzweig 00:22, 4 Feb 2005 (UTC)

Reverting Jimbo Wales on Autofellatio

Do you know who Jimbo Wales is??? Do NOT revert him. —Cantus…☎ 11:00, Feb 13, 2005 (UTC)

For once, I agree with Cantus. It's generally a Bad Thing to revert Jimbo. →Raul654 11:33, Feb 13, 2005 (UTC)

PS - Check your email :) →Raul654 12:19, Feb 13, 2005 (UTC)

Thank you!

Just a quick "thank you" for voting me for admin. Now all I've got to do is find out how to use these worrying new powers... Grutness| 05:50, 15 Feb 2005 (UTC)

Redirecting

I was about to thank you for saving me - then saw your "doh" - keep trying! Brookie 20:05, 18 Feb 2005 (UTC)

Reverts

In answer to your question, all you do is go to the page history, click on the unvandalised edition, then save page. Administrators have a super-fast version though.... wish I was an admin. Matthew Platts 18:06, 19 Mar 2005 (UTC)

With interwiki redirects it can be hard to get into the page history though. Add ?action=history at the end of the page's URL to get around that. Goplat 18:11, 19 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Please Respond

I'm sorry that you think you are being picked on:

I did not say I felt I was being "picked on". I asked you, after a third time, to answer why you think my link is inappropriate.

Misplaced Pages is a mass of rules, policies, guidance and whatnot (see Misplaced Pages:Utilities for just a partial list). I suppose that we should have asked you to revert the additions yourself, after offering our arguments, but when the first contributions by a new editor look like link spamming then the old vandal patrol mentality kicks in.

Misplaced Pages is a mass of guidelines, not rules.

In the harshest terms, it appears that all you are trying to do is drum up traffic for your own site by leeching off Misplaced Pages.

I do not understand why you are afraid of promoting communication from Misplaced Pages? Why not reject all forum links? Most are simply communities intereted in "self-promotion". I see no difference if you are not willing to list links on-topic. If anything, Wiki should be about facilitating communication, espcecially when it is non-commercial.

EDIT: I am not interested in "drumming up traffic" for my google ranking. I am not even listed on Google for crying out loud. What I am interested in doing is promoting discourse.

If you had added a single link to the philosophy article, then that may have been (and may still be) considered acceptable.

The philosophy article does not facilitate communication. People are usually looking for a specific author, as they are studying that author. In my opinion, adding links to forums which discuss Marx is on topic and conducive to the expansion of knowledge.

I'm pleased that you think that I am clever enough to use sophistry, but sad that you entirely missed the invitation to step right into the fray and start looking out for vandalism yourself.

Logically speaking, my missing a bit of vandalism has nothing to do with our disagreement.

Please have a look around: do some experimentation in the Misplaced Pages:Sandbox; work through the Misplaced Pages:Tutorial and the Misplaced Pages:Annotated article. And finally – though perhaps a bit late

No thank you. I am quite comfortable editing.

Misplaced Pages disapproves strongly of links that are added for advertising purposes. Adding links to one's own page is strongly discouraged.

A. My site is not advertising anything.

B. My site seeks to engage people in debate.

C. It is simply not a link to "a personal page".

"Misplaced Pages is not a soapbox, a chatroom, discussion forum, or vehicle for propaganda and advertising. Therefore, Misplaced Pages articles are not:

1. Propaganda or advocacy of any kind. Of course, an article can report objectively about such things, as long as an attempt is made to approach a neutral point of view. You might wish to go to Usenet or start a blog if you want to convince people of the merits of your favorite views."

My site covers issues from all perspectives, so it is objective and the only thing it can be said to advocate is philosophy itself.

Unanswered points from last post:

"How can my debates be considered spam if they are high-quality, non-commercial, and clicked by CHOICE? Only those not interested in debate would consider my links useless."

(Interleaved comments from User:Blueskyboris.)

Beer

I noticed you made a little change to one of the "brewbox" templates, and that you had done some previous work on Wolverhampton & Dudley Breweries. Would you be interested in lending a hand with a very new WikiProject Beer? – ClockworkSoul 00:09, 26 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Autofellatio vote

Greetings. I'm contacting you because you voted to keep Image:Autofellatio.jpg, but you indicated that part of your reasoning was because the image was not demonstrated to be a copyright violation. Someone recently found the image on http://www.wowboy.com/welcome.htm, a porn pay site, with the notice "© WowBoy 2001-2004, All rights reserved". I don't know if this changes your vote or not, but I thought you might want to know. – Quadell 02:27, Mar 27, 2005 (UTC)

Re: Spam

Thanks — I'm normally more tactful with my choice of words, but the belligerence of some people gets to me. He hasn't responded to my last email, though, so I don't expect he'll try putting the links back up. — Asbestos | Talk 09:41, 30 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Re: Joan Of Arc

Please use the article's talk page instead of an edit war to revert the exact same text over and over. You didn't make any point to why you wanted a change or what you didn't think conforms. I am happy to discuss such matters with you. We have already debated over details in the first paragraph, and your changes destroys them. Simply, your changes moves the article back to POV. You say you make the change for wikipedia standards, but POV is not a standard as NPOV. Mr. Ballard 00:53, 4 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Just to clarify an issue: "we" did not agree to the version Jhballard is still insisting on - rather, he kept reverting all attempts to clean up his edits (which, as another person pointed out, are often incomprehensible), and I finally just let his version remain rather than fight endlessly over every preposition and verb phrase. Noisy's recent corrections were extremely welcome, and do not need to be tediously discussed - since Jhballard has repeatedly altered material without any prior discussion whatsoever, he cannot now demand that any changes to his own edits need to be subjected to a thorough discussion first. (AWilliamson 02:44, 4 Apr 2005 (UTC))

Thank you

Thank you for supporting my adminship — I vow to use my super powers for good not evil. Mel Etitis (Μελ Ετητης) 09:55, 6 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Issues about school articles

In November 2003, there was a VfD debate over Sunset High School (Portland). The debate was archived under Talk:Sunset High School (Portland). What to do with the article is still being contested and has been recently re-nominated for VfD at Misplaced Pages:Votes for deletion/Sunset High School (Portland).

I am writing to you because you have participated in such debates before. There still does not exist a wikipedia policy (as far as i can tell) over what to do in regards to articles about specific U.S. public school. My hope is that a real consensus can come out of the debate, and a real policy can take shape. Take part if you are so willing. Kingturtle 02:43, 12 Apr 2005 (UTC)