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August 2023

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And don't invoke Misplaced Pages:Please do not bite the newcomers, since I know that you are not a newbie. tgeorgescu (talk) 11:36, 6 August 2023 (UTC)

never planned on it. ltbdl (talk) 11:52, 6 August 2023 (UTC)

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Previous account

It's pretty clear from your username and your editing pattern that you're

@graham87: the connection is meant to be obvious. ltbdl (talk) 15:13, 18 August 2023 (UTC)
Very well then. There's {{Former account}}, etc. Graham87 15:23, 18 August 2023 (UTC)

Accuracy in lamest edit wars

Physical fighting does not constitute edit warring. It constitutes battles and actual wars which may take millions of actual lives. Likely there wouldn’t have been any instances of actual edit wars before the invention of the wiki. CoastRedwood (talk) 22:02, 24 August 2023 (UTC)

@coastredwood: it's a humor page. it's not supposed to be serious or accurate. ltbdl (talk) 00:09, 25 August 2023 (UTC)
I know, but classing edit wars with actual wars just seems wrong, and I mean really wrong. CoastRedwood (talk) 06:54, 25 August 2023 (UTC)
I didn't know wikipedians thought this suitable as 'humor'. Gun duels have absolutely no relation to edit wars, and the fact that Wikipedians take this just as 'humor' appears so childish that childish doesn't even seem the right word. CoastRedwood (talk) 12:26, 25 August 2023 (UTC)

Teahouse

I do think you should have let that edit stand. There is no chance of the edits they want staying in articles. Hearing it from other editors would be of benefit. I think all the editors involved are kids and there is a trolling element. They will return (and get reverted of course) but it might have been handy to have a record. That said, I'm done with the ridiculous notion of mysterious text in the sky, especially with the naff shopped picture they wanted to include last time. There is an SPI for this if they continue. TL:DR...I'm not reinstating their teahouse question but if they post again, my humble opinion is to let it stand. Or not lol. Thanks for the talk page message. Knitsey (talk) 09:04, 8 September 2023 (UTC)

@knitsey: can i have the spi link? ltbdl (talk) 09:09, 8 September 2023 (UTC)
Misplaced Pages:Sockpuppet investigations/KorbismBiggestFan they call it Korbism, hence the names. Knitsey (talk) 09:11, 8 September 2023 (UTC)

Boston Consolidated TRACON

I noticed that alot of information was removed from the Boston Consolidated TRACON page due it being unsourced. I would like the information be put back since this information has been verified by people who work at Boston Consolidated TRACON. Lynchie22586 (talk) 22:43, 18 September 2023 (UTC)

@lynchie22586: sorry, we can't base an article on word of mouth. ltbdl (talk) 00:39, 19 September 2023 (UTC)
The North and South sector information comes directly from their Standard Operating Procedures Manual Lynchie22586 (talk) 14:46, 19 September 2023 (UTC)
Also the yearly traffic counts comes from the FAA air traffic activity data system website Lynchie22586 (talk) 14:48, 19 September 2023 (UTC)
@lynchie22586: then cite those. ltbdl (talk) 00:12, 20 September 2023 (UTC)
Ok 2601:19C:4D81:2480:E96C:61A4:713D:A6E1 (talk) 00:50, 20 September 2023 (UTC)

Clean Start editors should not be using their old account

Right? Why shouldn't I block the old one? Doug Weller talk 13:54, 19 September 2023 (UTC)

Done. Doug Weller talk 19:53, 29 September 2023 (UTC)
@doug weller: can you at least make it a soft block? it's affecting this account. ltbdl (talk) 07:26, 30 September 2023 (UTC)
Will do. Doug Weller talk 08:34, 30 September 2023 (UTC)

Speedy deletion contested: Basketball at the 1997 Summer Universiade

Hello Ltbdl. I am just letting you know that I contested the speedy deletion of Basketball at the 1997 Summer Universiade, a page you tagged for speedy deletion, because of the following concern: Part of a notable event. I would use AFD instead. Thank you. BangJan1999 16:46, 22 September 2023 (UTC)

Speedy deletion contested: Football at the 1997 Summer Universiade

Hello Ltbdl. I am just letting you know that I contested the speedy deletion of Football at the 1997 Summer Universiade, a page you tagged for speedy deletion, because of the following concern: Part of a notable event. I would use AFD instead. Thank you. BangJan1999 16:47, 22 September 2023 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

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For stepping up to help with the Misplaced Pages:Top 25 Report - 'writing funny stuff is *hard*', but your efforts at comedy are good, and hope you keep on aiding us. igordebraga ≠ 04:32, 30 September 2023 (UTC)

Edit summaries

Please keep your edit summaries on-topic and descriptive of your edit, rather than using them as space for commentary. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 00:51, 13 October 2023 (UTC)

Thank you, I appreciate it. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 01:27, 13 October 2023 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

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Thanks a ton for your work cleaning up Paulina Alexis. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 00:22, 14 October 2023 (UTC)

Blanking short descriptions

Why are you blanking out short desc on purpose, as here? That seems to serve no purpose.  — SMcCandlish ☏ ¢ 😼  11:00, 29 October 2023 (UTC)

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Reprise: Steveston-London Secondary School

Hi ltbdl, I've added to the SLSS article two sections about the precursor schools. Neither Steveston Secondary School nor Charles E. London Secondary School has text appropriate for merging based on extant reliable sources, and I think those articles should be converted to redirects. Do you know if it is required to AfD the articles before creating the redirects? — Grand'mere Eugene (talk) 01:27, 9 November 2023 (UTC)

@grand'mere eugene: afd isn't necessary. that process is called blank and redirect. ltbdl (talk) 01:33, 9 November 2023 (UTC)
Thanks. — Grand'mere Eugene (talk) 02:22, 9 November 2023 (UTC)

About the revert of Elementary arithmetic

Please take a look at Greatest common divisor, GCD(27, 8)=1, and 24 is actually the maximum multiple of 8 (3x8=24) that is lower than 27. Kunjinkao (talk) 13:50, 12 November 2023 (UTC)

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@Ltbdl: That was a bad copyedit you did to the article. More so, you removed information and made assumptions that weren't there when you did the copyedit on the article, that is barely started. I don't know you did that but I don't like it. Why did you decide to remove information? Your not the one that is writing the article. You made assumptions that are not there. For what reason? You seem to have reverted and have starting an edit war for some reason instead of discusses. If if gets reverted I will need to take you up edit warring notice this morning. scope_creep 09:59, 2 December 2023 (UTC)

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AFDs

Hello, ltbdl,

For any future AFDs that you nominate, please provide a substantial deletion rationale that demonstrates you have followed WP:BEFORE, don't just offer a one word policy abbreviation. I have closed AFDs in the past if there is not a reasonable deletion rationale provided by the nominator so please outline your reasons for believing an article subject doesn't have notability instead of just mentioning a policy. What did you think of the article sources? What did you find when you looked for sources that aren't currently in the article? Did you consider a Redirect or Merge? These are points that participants are looking for in a deletion rationale and since you seem to be nominating a lot of articles, please start providing this as is expected. Participants want to see that you are going to as much trouble to evaluate the article and sources as they will when they offer their opinions to a discussion. Thank you. Liz 05:16, 29 March 2024 (UTC)

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you sent this to everyone who participated in the first afd? christ. ltbdl (talk) 07:21, 2 April 2024 (UTC)

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Insulting and uncommunicative edits on fictosexuality

Look, I get that maybe you don’t want a particular image on this article, but deleting it with the rationale “nope.” is not how to do it. I notice that this is not the first time you deleted/reverted content on this page in an unnecessarily rude manner without a valid rationale. If you think the article needs improvement, actually try to communicate with other editors. If you think the topic isn’t notable, nominate it for deletion. If you think the topic itself is stupid, then don’t edit it. Dronebogus (talk) 15:00, 5 May 2024 (UTC)

Misplaced Pages:No personal attacks

With your comment as a rule of thumb, anything springee supports is right-wing pov pushing, you've violated the above policy, WP:NPA. some types of comments are never acceptable ... Accusations about personal behavior that lack evidence. Serious accusations require serious evidence, usually in the form of diffs and links. I'd advise you to quickly withdraw the comment before sanctions are sought for or imposed on you. starship.paint (RUN) 14:51, 12 June 2024 (UTC)

get me blocked, i deserve it. ltbdl (talk) 15:22, 12 June 2024 (UTC)
Based on Doug Weller's comments above it appears that this is a clean start account. Per the interaction analyzer it appears we have basically no interaction history prior to the last 24hr. Since I don't know what your prior account was I can't be certain if your comment attacking me was based on some prior interactions. That appears to be a violation of clean start, "The old account must be clearly discontinued and the new account must avoid editing patterns or behaviors that would allow other users to recognize and identify the account. It is expected that the new account will be a true "fresh start", will edit in new areas, will avoid old disputes, and will follow community norms of behavior." I'm going to ask that you strike the uncivil comment that starship.paint noted. Springee (talk) 23:22, 12 June 2024 (UTC)

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Please

appeal your topic ban. You know just like me that this is nonsense. LilianaUwU 21:22, 19 June 2024 (UTC)

As much as I loathe to be one of the "shows up at a user's talk page to lament a ban" people, I'm here at a user's talk page to lament a ban. No ltbdl, you shouldn't have engaged the way that you did, and you were just asking for sanctions (literally). I don't fault the administrators who implemented the ban, and I likely would have supported at least a warning. But there's an underlying issue here that Misplaced Pages protects POV pushers and punishes those who have a problem with POV pushing. Repeated blatant failures of WP:CPUSH and WP:INSCRUTABLE should be called out and addressed, but the community gives us little means to do so and tends to blame the messenger, resulting in situations like this. Thebiguglyalien (talk) 00:03, 21 June 2024 (UTC)

Theater Organ (again)

Hello lettherebedarklight,

My question from 2022: Your edit comment (it's a copyvio! that explains a lot.) was helpful, but (why?!?!?!?!??!!? ), (why would anyone trying to learn about theatre organs care about this!?!? ), (wtf is this article), were less so and at first, sounded to me that you had personal opinions about what previous editors should or should not have found relevant to the subject matter, and took an ax to it. But with such a large cleanup in mind, shouldn't a discussion have occurred for consensus on the talk page? I understand that copyright violations should be handled immediately, but not everything that you removed were violations.

Currently, you again removed a whole lot of content from the article, without any discussion on the talk page. I would like to know what specific guidelines you are using to determine what facts are worthy of passing your editorial filter. Do you have a background involving pipe organs? I think that many of the items you have removed (now and in the past) ARE of interest and germane to folks wanting to learn about the subject of the article. In the future, could you at least discuss your intentions on the talk page so that the community of editors that care about the content can weigh in and you will have a consensus to work with. Otherwise, you are moving way past BOLD.

I may put back some information and then also start a discussion on the talk page regarding the overall scope of the article, to get input from other folks who are interested.  • Bobsd •  (talk) 00:30, 15 July 2024 (UTC)

my standard: unsourced? chop it. ltbdl (talk) 00:37, 15 July 2024 (UTC)
Perhaps (removing uncited content) is a better summary than (cleanup). I can see that most (but not all) of the stuff you removed was in fact not cited. But right now, most of what is left is not cited either, so blanking the whole thing was also an option. The other option is to find a source, or tag each section with so that at least the information has not been lost, but warns the reader that it is of dubious value. Of course, finding a source for an article you don't want to work on is a pain. My personal solution to that is to not make huge changes to articles I am not willing to put the effort into fixing. That's not a dig. It's just from my background where you only have peer-reviewed changes, etc.
Look, I agree with you that the whole article needs upgrading ... I just think that the only way to improve an article is to get a discussion going on the talk page. Especially an article that is sort of niche, but may benefit from having some of that arcane info in it ... properly cited of course. I'll get off the pot and start the effort, maybe trying to get Erzahler involved also.  • Bobsd •  (talk) 01:21, 15 July 2024 (UTC)
frankly, your approach is weird. ltbdl (talk) 02:32, 15 July 2024 (UTC)
Thank you for the thoughtful reply to my concerns, and clarifying the type of editor you are. I won't waste anymore of your time.  • Bobsd •  (talk) 06:32, 15 July 2024 (UTC)
you're welcome. ltbdl (talk) 07:06, 15 July 2024 (UTC)
Thanks to Bobsd for bringing this to light.
To Ltbdl: I am going to say this only once. Large-scale edits without discussing the reason for your "edits" or even allowing the theatre organ editing community as a whole to weigh in on your proposed action is wholly and absolutely unwarranted. Edits purely for personal gain or because you have a bone to pick with someone is strictly "verboten." We do not need to get involved in an edit war.
If you have a specific, legitimate concern about this article, fine. Simply bring it up on the Talk page and let ALL of us knock it around awhile until a consensus is reached on the proposed action. If you can't, or won't, abide by the community guidelines, then I will ask the other editors to lock this topic, and I will knock this up to Administration faster than you can say "Jack Robinson eats peanuts." I hope this drastic action will not be necessary, and I trust I have gotten my point across to you.
Again, thanks to Bobsd for bringing this to my, and the other editors', attention. Erzahler (talk) 03:06, 17 July 2024 (UTC)
if you don't like my edits, revert them. ltbdl (talk) 04:04, 17 July 2024 (UTC)

Edit summaries

I apologize that I missed one instance of the NIGA acronym in the Indian Gaming Association article when I updated it, but this edit summary is not appropriate. I was working in good faith to remove the old acronym and it wasn't on purpose as I was retaining other instances of it in existing sources and didn't see it was within article text. Assume good faith next time. Nate • (chatter) 16:45, 4 September 2024 (UTC)

that wasn't directed at you. ltbdl☃ (talk) 08:04, 5 September 2024 (UTC)

15

15.ai didn't said the site was abandoned! They said "I assure you that I am still the same stubborn person I was three years ago when I first launched my project – please don't believe these malicious lies. I'm doing the best I can, and I'll always continue to do so."! Stop editing 15.ai wiki or requesting its removal! — Preceding unsigned comment added by RocketKnightX (talk • contribs) 14:41, 27 September 2024 (UTC)

@RocketKnightX: he's clearly abandoned it... ltbdl☃ (talk) 15:30, 27 September 2024 (UTC)
No! No he didnt! Stop vandalizing the page! RocketKnightX (talk) 19:05, 27 September 2024 (UTC)

About 15

You just sound like the site is dead, but it's not. It's under maintenance. RocketKnightX (talk) 19:04, 27 September 2024 (UTC)

Many people have been wanting to change the site status to abandoned for a while. I understand that he may not have directly said that he abandoned it, but I will try to respectfully bring the reasons over as to why many believe the site to be dead.
15 mentioned not going on Twitter until the site was updated. 15 had changed his profile picture. The server and domain that 15ai sits on is currently used as a TF2 server. This is not speculation during the time I write this; the talk page on the Misplaced Pages have a URL to the server, which is a subdomain of 15ai. Alledged sites connected to him have also been found.
I feel like Misplaced Pages is not the place for an editing war, so I'd like to hear your side as well. Besides 15's comment saying that 15 is the same person as before, what else would you like to add for those who doubt that the project is still under maintenance? Thought 1915 (talk) 23:03, 27 September 2024 (UTC)
Can you tell Ltbdl to stop vandalizing? Please? If they don't stop, report them. RocketKnightX (talk) 18:26, 28 September 2024 (UTC)
I have no administrative power to do that and such action remains outside of my ability. I highly reccomend that you resolve this issue with Ltbdl somehow though. Although these reverts have taken place over a span greater than 24 hours, both of your reverts, not taking the 24-hour clause into account, are approaching the 3RR threshold. I will open a topic on the respective Misplaced Pages page so that a resolution can occur quicker. Thought 1915 (talk) 21:10, 28 September 2024 (UTC)
Here's the proof: https://x.com/kokytkdl/status/1840395973647888432 RocketKnightX (talk) 08:07, 2 October 2024 (UTC)

What did I told you about vandalizing?!😡

Stop that! RocketKnightX (talk) 18:25, 28 September 2024 (UTC)

I said stop!😡

It's annoying! RocketKnightX (talk) 09:10, 1 October 2024 (UTC)

Okay, I'm starting to see that you're a troll that vandalizing the page and want it removed without a good reason.

You need to stop that, seriously. 15 never said the project was abandoned and said it won't be on Twitter until the update was completed. If you stubbornly refuse to understand, then you're bad. RocketKnightX (talk) 11:01, 1 October 2024 (UTC)

Here's the proof 15.ai didn't abandoned the project! Look!

https://x.com/kokytkdl/status/1840395973647888432 RocketKnightX (talk) 07:36, 2 October 2024 (UTC)