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What, again?

What, again? Sorry to see this, Andy. Bishonen | tålk 18:27, 3 November 2024 (UTC).

A barnstar for you

	The Anti-Wikibullying Barnstar
	We may not have seen eye to eye in the past, but I was pleasantly surprised when I saw this. Whether you come back or not, good luck on your future endeavors! ZLEA T\ 19:55, 3 November 2024 (UTC)

I second that emotion. Andy, thanks for taking a stand at WPO. You can be more effective here when there are clean lines and no questions of loyalty. -- Valjean (talk) (PING me) 22:44, 3 November 2024 (UTC)

Thirded. Dronebogus (talk) 11:25, 4 November 2024 (UTC)

I don't disagree with the stand Andy has taken, but I'm absolutely sickened by Valjean's continued insistence that we must be "loyal" to en.wp and to voice criticism of it is some sort of treason. That's absolutely not what Andy is about, as anyone with even a passing familiarity with him would know perfectly well. Just Step Sideways 00:22, 7 November 2024 (UTC)

That's not at all my position. Criticism of Misplaced Pages is one thing, but the rampant cowardice shown by WP editors who go to WPO and then attack fellow WP editors by engaging in egregious behaviors they would not dare to use at WP because they are sanctionable/blockable behaviors is a problem. They use WPO to create a chilling effect for those editors at WP. That's wrong and cowardly. If they have a complaint against a WP editor, they should do it at WP, under the PAG governing such complaints. They don't do it at WP because their complaints sometimes don't have any merit under WP's PAG. Such actions at WPO affect WP, and should result in sanctions against the offenders. For you, as has been mentioned by many, that could mean desysopping and other sanctions, and some other WP editors could also be sanctioned.

We need to remember that it's the same cowardly asshole, sitting at the same keyboard, who edits at WP and then bellyaches at WPO against their fellow WP editors using methods not allowed at WP. That does not make them immune to repercussions at WP, and their expectation that WPO provides a safe haven for their bad behavior is quite hypocritical. If their bad actions at WPO can reach WP and affect it and its editors, then their access to WP should be affected. If a WP editor decides to use WPO as their sniper position targeting fellow WP editors, then WP has a right to shoot back at them and tell them they can't come home, or at least limit what they can do at home. -- Valjean (talk) (PING me) 17:33, 7 November 2024 (UTC)

In appreciation

		The Surreal Barnstar
		Pure wildcard energy. ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 12:40, 5 November 2024 (UTC)

Arbitration case request declined

Hi AndyTheGrump. The Wikipediocracy-related conduct case request has been declined. While the arbitrators were closely divided, there was not an absolute majority to accept the case. For the Arbitration Committee, SilverLocust 💬 06:39, 7 November 2024 (UTC)