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Literally every month without fail, at some point during the month a run of Special:WantedCategories suddenly throws up a redlinked category of the "Misplaced Pages Today's featured article nominations from " variety (e.g. Category:Misplaced Pages Today's featured article nominations from July 2024) which I end up having to create on your behalf, even though I'm not normally involved in this project, because of the rule around not leaving stuff in redlinked categories. So if such categories are routinely expected to exist, then would it be possible for this project to take steps to ensure that they get created either by a project member as soon as they're needed, or automatically by a bot at the beginning of the month, before they turn into work for other projects to clean up? Bearcat (talk) 20:46, 28 July 2024 (UTC)

I have no idea. I've been a coordinator for seven years and I have no idea what this is. At a guess, I'd say it's something produced by the template when TFA/R nominations are created. Wehwalt (talk) 21:37, 28 July 2024 (UTC)

@Bearcat and Wehwalt: these categories are a direct effect of a TFAR being accepted and scheduled. See for example Category:Misplaced Pages Today's featured article nominations from October 2024 where all of the five TFAs were placed in the monthly category by edits like this, made either by Gog the Mild (talk · contribs) or by SchroCat (talk · contribs), who used {{subst:TFAR top|monthyear=October 2024|passed=y|date=November 28, 2024}} (or something similar). So I think that it's up to these people to notice the redlink that may appear in the category box following an edit like that, and to create the category page to suit. --Redrose64 🌹 (talk) 20:12, 14 October 2024 (UTC)

Sure, except they very routinely don't, because it always, every month without fail, gets picked up by the WantedCategories report and thus always, every month without fail, ends up becoming my job. Bearcat (talk) 20:14, 14 October 2024 (UTC)

I guess the two obvious questions I have are, is it worth having categories like this, and in either case, what's the most efficient course of action? Wehwalt (talk) 20:20, 14 October 2024 (UTC)

Having read the discussion to this point three times I have no idea what it is about, what if anything I am doing wrong, or how if at all I need to amend my practices. Would it be possible for someone to talk it through a level or two down? Thanks. Gog the Mild (talk) 20:42, 14 October 2024 (UTC)

@Gog the Mild: OK. When SchroCat made this edit on 3 October 2024 (and I'm sure that it was a correct action), it put Misplaced Pages:Today's featured article/requests/Wells Cathedral 1 into Category:Misplaced Pages Today's featured article nominations from October 2024, but the category page didn't exist at the time - Bearcat had to create it themselves the following day after being alerted by the presence of that cat in Special:WantedCategories. It's something that they have been going on about at VPT and other places for months, if not years. --Redrose64 🌹 (talk) 20:56, 14 October 2024 (UTC)

I see, I think. Is there a way to automate the creation so we are sure not to cause you any further problems? Wehwalt (talk) 21:09, 14 October 2024 (UTC)

Or, alternatively, to alter the code so that this is no longer created? Because I suspect it gets next to no page views. As you saw by my initial reaction, it's not something useful in TFA land.Wehwalt (talk) 21:10, 14 October 2024 (UTC)

Agree. Is there a point to Misplaced Pages Today's featured article nominations from October 2024? I'm new to scheduling and it's already an involved multi-step process, so not adding yet another step would be the better pathway. - SchroCat (talk) 04:52, 15 October 2024 (UTC) - SchroCat (talk) 04:49, 15 October 2024 (UTC)

The categorisation was added to Template:TFAR top by Bencherlite (talk · contribs), the template's creator. Why it was done, or if it is necessary, I don't know; but Bencherlite is WP:MIA so can't be asked. --Redrose64 🌹 (talk) 07:40, 15 October 2024 (UTC)

They don't look terribly high traffic or useful - to me at least. There's also nothing in the archives of this page or of Bench's talk page where there was a discussion that led to it. It seems superfluous to requirements. - SchroCat (talk) 09:11, 15 October 2024 (UTC)

I agree. Simply remove the code that produces this and no more problem, and we don't get talked about on VPT, wherever that is, and elsewhere. Can we agree to do this? Wehwalt (talk) 16:02, 15 October 2024 (UTC)

VPT = WP:VPT. --Redrose64 🌹 (talk) 16:48, 15 October 2024 (UTC)

Potential double header for 6 April next year

G'day TFA coords. This year you ran Hrabri-class submarine on 5 April, the anniversary of their arrival in Yugoslavia in 1928. There was talk of trying to run the class article and the two sub articles (Yugoslav submarine Hrabri and Yugoslav submarine Nebojša) together then, but I understand it was too difficult. Would it be technically feasible to run the two sub articles together in one blurb on 5 April next year? If not, I might look at running them on different dates for different reasons. Thanks, Peacemaker67 (click to talk to me) 04:58, 10 August 2024 (UTC)

We don't know yet if I'll be doing April, but I've made a note to come back and answer this when we know. - Dank (push to talk) 12:04, 22 August 2024 (UTC)

TFA for November

@TFA coordinators It seems like an editor named @Dunkybrown: has scheduled articles to the November TFA pages. These may need to be reverted unless they are a new TFA co-ordinator that I did not know was confirmed. Also, it seems like the November list is delayed: who is scheduling for this month? If you need any help, I am happy to suggest articles. Z1720 (talk) 22:13, 3 October 2024 (UTC)

No, the person did it on their own. It's Gog's month in November, he'll be reaching out to the person to nicely explain a thing or two and will be scheduling when he has the time. I certainly was surprised when I happened to look over the November pages earlier today! Wehwalt (talk) 22:43, 3 October 2024 (UTC)

Also, nothing is delayed. We seem to be scheduling earlier and earlier, if only to get the task done with, but it wasn't too many moons ago that we were scheduling starting about the middle of the month preceding. I'll be doing December and would expect to start scheduling close to the end of October. Wehwalt (talk) 00:54, 4 October 2024 (UTC)

December nominations

As scheduling coordinator for December, I announce that nominations for any date through 31 December may now be made. Wehwalt (talk) 12:32, 13 October 2024 (UTC)

The December schedule will be found here. Nominations are still welcome and we'll adjust as need be.--Wehwalt (talk) 13:22, 31 October 2024 (UTC)