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To-do list for Eastern Front (World War II): edit · history · watch · refresh · Updated 2017-11-08

Short mentioning of fear of the German people of Soviets due to propaganda and real atrocities e.g. Nemmersdorf massacre which caused even mass suicide and caused the German military to fight the Soviet to the end and surrender to the other Allies (should probably have a hotlink to unconditional surrender somewhere in there).

Give a sourced overview on casualties counts.

Wartime economies, military production, Soviet industrial evacuation/relocation

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Date cleanup

Article states the following "At 03:15 on 22 June 1941, 99 of 190 German divisions, including fourteen panzer divisions and ten motorized, were deployed against the Soviet Union from the Baltic to the Black Sea. They were accompanied by ten Romanian divisions, three Italian divisions, two Slovakian divisions and nine Romanian and four Hungarian brigades".

This is most certainly not true, because Hungary only declared war against the Soviet Union on June 27th and so couldn't have supplied any brigades for the original invasion 5 days before. The source for this I cannot review directly, as the reference points to an offline Russian book published in 1973. My source: https://web.archive.org/web/20160505212551/https://worldatwar.net/timeline/other/diplomacy39-45.html

Btw, in light of this error, it might generally be useful to review any other info sourced from the 1973 Russian book. As you might know, during the Soviet era, certain historical events really weren't publishe in th official histories as they actually had happened. I recommend Antony Beevor instead, he's got nice war books, and he's not publishing in a totalitarian state which was a direct participant in the conflict the page is about.

Spain under "Support" in InfoBox?

The article, accurately, states "Among the most prominent volunteer army formations was the Spanish Blue Division ...". Spain provided 47,000 volunteers in the Blue Division. There was another 2,269 in the Blue Legion. And there was the Blue Squadron of aviators and ground crew. Though less documented, there were Spanish volunteers in the Waffen-ᛋᛋ. They also provided medical services and cooperation. All of the aforementioned were deployed on the Eastern Front.

Spain also provided Germany naval, airbase, communications, and intelligence cooperation, as well as strategic materials. They were neutral during the war, so should not be listed as a combatant. However, their involvement would likely warrant inclusion under "Support" à la the present Allied listing. Thoughts? Surv1v4l1st 01:54, 28 June 2023 (UTC)

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I would like to add some additional citations to the article, as per requested by the bar at the top of the article page. I am unable to do this right now, however. Robertjhennigan (talk) 23:29, 15 March 2024 (UTC)

Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. Cannolis (talk) 23:49, 15 March 2024 (UTC)

Disappearance of Ondrej Sobola

There seems to be an extra article merged into this one, I don't think the disappearance of an Austro-Hungarian soldier in 1918 is relevant to the eastern front, as well as the two see also sections. @Davidgoodheart, did you mean to do this? NotEvil(1); (talk) 04:10, 20 April 2024 (UTC)

Too many commanders and leaders

Recently I attempted to trim down the commanders and leaders section, as it looked like there were far too many, including unnecessary minor commanders and those who didn't lead campaigns on the field. However someone kept reversing the edit for unclear reasons. I definitely think this section should be trimmed down and we should reach a consensus on which commanders should remain in there while which ones are unnecessarily displayed and should be cut out. HawkNightingale175 (talk) 03:18, 24 November 2024 (UTC)

The overall assessment of the forces of the sides is underestimated (1941-1945)

1. Sources of the total forces of the sides are not given 46.56.182.61 (talk) 11:36, 4 December 2024 (UTC)

https://web.archive.org/web/20100328080054/http://www.soldat.ru/doc/casualties/book/chapter5_01.html 46.56.182.61 (talk) 11:39, 4 December 2024 (UTC)

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