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December 4

Category:Centrolepidaceae

Nominator's rationale: According to APG IV Freely accessible, Centrolepidaceae is now included in Restionaceae. jlwoodwa (talk) 23:29, 4 December 2024 (UTC)

Category:Causinae

Nominator's rationale: The category was apparently depopulated a while ago, leaving only the eponymous redirect Causinae. According to Open Tree of Life and A nesting of vipers: Phylogeny and historical biogeography of the Viperidae (Squamata: Serpentes) Freely accessible, and as described at Causus § Taxonomy, Causus is now placed within Viperinae, making Causinae a junior subjective synonym of Viperinae. jlwoodwa (talk) 23:22, 4 December 2024 (UTC)

Category:Oriental Orthodox congregations established in the 4th century

Nominator's rationale: delete, anachronistic category, the Oriental Orthodox Churches did not exist yet in the 4th century. The three articles are already in Category:Christian monasteries established in the 4th century, there is no need to merge somewhere. Marcocapelle (talk) 07:54, 27 November 2024 (UTC)

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Kingsmasher678 (talk) 19:25, 4 December 2024 (UTC)

Category:Trees of the Netherlands

Nominator's rationale: No articles in category. Clean up of a cateogy that should not have been recreated after merger to Category:Trees of Europe in 2015. 🌿MtBotany (talk) 17:57, 4 December 2024 (UTC)

Category:Trees of the Eastern United States

Nominator's rationale: As with previous discussions on tree categories this will eliminate an inconsistently used category. It will reduce the amount of WP:OVERCAT and be similar to two previous mergers of all the national categories for tree to the umbrella Category:Trees of Europe in 2015 and the North American state and provincial categories in 2023. I suspect that all the species are already categorized in Trees of Northern America, but just in case I'm moving for a merge rather than a delete. 🌿MtBotany (talk) 17:39, 4 December 2024 (UTC)

Category:File-Class articles

Nominator's rationale: For the same reason FM-Class articles was renamed to FM-Class pages here, in which also suggested this name. This nomination includes all sub-pages. Gonnym (talk) 17:33, 4 December 2024 (UTC)

Category:People by paranormal abilities

Nominator's rationale: The current title of this category suggests the abilities are real. Given that these abilities have never been scientifically proven, it should specify they are alleged. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 08:14, 17 November 2024 (UTC)

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Thoughts on Bushranger's point?
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, ~/Bunnypranav:<ping> 15:01, 25 November 2024 (UTC)

  • Comment The people claiming paranormal abilities have the burden to prove they possess them in a scientific lab setting. If they cannot, then I don't believe saying "purported" or "claimed" is POV. If there was even a smidgen of scientific confirmation, then perhaps it would be. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 16:28, 25 November 2024 (UTC)

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Thoughts on Zxcvbnm's comment?
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 17:24, 4 December 2024 (UTC)

Administrator election

Nominator's rationale: or "administrator election candidacies"? charlotte 17:17, 4 December 2024 (UTC)

Category:Hunting in video games

Nominator's rationale: This seems to have missed the broad renaming of similar categories. It should be renamed to be more defining than it is now. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 16:07, 4 December 2024 (UTC)

Category:Stinkers Bad Movie Award winning films

Nominator's rationale: WP:OCAWARD --woodensuperman 12:32, 4 December 2024 (UTC)

Category:Dual screen phone

Nominator's rationale: All of the phones present, as of now, in this category are smartphones. Some are foldables, some are not. Almost all, or at least big majority of clamshell dumb phones have 2 screens. As it is now, all of those should also be in this category, but that is not necessary as the clamshell category covers them. Setenzatsu.2 (talk) 11:43, 4 December 2024 (UTC)

Category:Jon Bon Jovi

Nominator's rationale: WP:OCEPON. The "Works by" tree is sufficient here. --woodensuperman 11:10, 4 December 2024 (UTC)

Category:Lenny Kravitz

Nominator's rationale: WP:OCEPON. The "Works by" tree is sufficient here. --woodensuperman 11:05, 4 December 2024 (UTC)

Category:People from Glyndon, Minnesota

Nominator's rationale: Category with just two entries. Lost in Quebec (talk) 10:33, 4 December 2024 (UTC)

Category:Defense

Nominator's rationale: Seems to be WP:SHAREDNAME, defense itself is a disambiguation page and not an article. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 10:02, 4 December 2024 (UTC)

Infrastructure and Transport infrastructure 1400-1700

Nominator's rationale: merge, until 1700 the tree consists largely of single-article categories, this is unhelpful for navigation. Marcocapelle (talk) 07:24, 4 December 2024 (UTC)

Category:Marvel Comics film characters

Nominator's rationale: This category's description is for "Film characters based on Marvel Comics", although in recent months, it has become populated by an absurd amount of articles for the comic characters themselves, with many of those being for characters only RECENTLY being featured in some mass media. This cat has primarily operated as a holding for the three current subcats which are actually for film adaptations of these characters. This cat is repeatedly readded to articles on the comics versions and I am requesting full deletion as the current subcats handle all relevant media adaptations in film, or, if that does not pass, then I would request this cat to be purged and converted into a formal holding cat. Trailblazer101 (talk) 07:10, 7 November 2024 (UTC)
Nominator's comment: I would also like to note that the creator of this cat, User:Dietic, has a history of making similar categories as this one for Marvel adaptation characters that were overcategorized on the comics articles and were subsequently deleted in the past few years, many of which may be viewed via their talk page. Trailblazer101 (talk) 07:14, 7 November 2024 (UTC)

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Clear consensus for a change; should it be purged or deleted?
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 21:43, 18 November 2024 (UTC)

Purge: Agree that the cat should be limited to articles about the characters from the films specifically, but that that's a perfectly fine scope to maintain and the category retains value so long as that scope is maintained. QuietHere (talk | contributions) 07:31, 23 November 2024 (UTC)
The description is more specific than its title, so just change the description or the title? Tag the users populating it. --MikutoH 03:27, 25 November 2024 (UTC)

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Also containerize?
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 01:44, 27 November 2024 (UTC)

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Same as HouseBlaster above.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Kingsmasher678 (talk) 06:30, 4 December 2024 (UTC)

Category:Armories (military)

Nominator's rationale: See WP:OVERLAPCAT. They share the same article overall, with only naming differences. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 00:51, 27 November 2024 (UTC)

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Kingsmasher678 (talk) 06:28, 4 December 2024 (UTC)

Category:Cetacean attacks

Nominator's rationale: merge, redundant category layer with only two subcategories each. This is follow-up on this earlier discussion, @Zxcvbnm and Jontesta: pinging contributors to that discussion. Marcocapelle (talk) 05:06, 4 December 2024 (UTC)

Category:Caves of Madeira

Nominator's rationale: Not a large enough cat to improve navigation. Kingsmasher678 (talk) 04:41, 4 December 2024 (UTC)

Category:Ambassadors of Iraq to Morocco

Nominator's rationale: Underpopulated category, upmerge for now. MasonGarrison 03:49, 4 December 2024 (UTC)

Category:AEW aircraft

Nominator's rationale: These are a subset of Airborne Early Warning and Control System (AWACS) aircraft, mostly early (but not all), and there is siginifcant overlap. The WP:COMMONNAME for this type of aircraft is 'AWACS'. The Bushranger One ping only 23:23, 25 November 2024 (UTC)
  • Oppose The basic claim here is untrue. AWACS aircraft are a subset of AEW aircraft, not the other way around. Only the latest generations (from the '60s onwards, maybe the Lockheed EC-121 Warning Star as the first) and the largest aircraft also had an AWACS capability. The earlier ones, and still the smaller ones, or the tactical theatre aircraft were limited to AEW only.
We could merge all to AEW. That would be valid and correct. However I would oppose the merge in either direction, as the two types are distinct, defining and more useful when kept separate. Andy Dingley (talk) 23:34, 25 November 2024 (UTC)
  • Doing the same merge, but to a worse name, is hardly any better.
The point here is that there are two categories, because AEW aircraft didn't carry the extra capability of being AWACS aircraft. So they don't belong in any category implying that they do. Andy Dingley (talk) 19:40, 26 November 2024 (UTC)
Then Category:AEW aircraft needs to be scanned, because there's several types in there that I'm pretty sure I recognize as AWACS. - The Bushranger One ping only 00:08, 27 November 2024 (UTC)
Such as? Firstly that's an irrelevance for this question (whatever changes to membership are needed, then just change them). Secondly that's a vague handwave, unless you can cite which are the issue. Thirdly, thinking that Nimrod AEW3 was an AWACS aircraft was one of the most expensive mistakes of the British aircraft industry! Andy Dingley (talk) 12:30, 28 November 2024 (UTC)

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: I will tag Category:AWACS aircraft, but there is no current consensus to do anything in particular. Additional comments are welcome!
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 03:35, 4 December 2024 (UTC)

Category:Zimbabwe radio station stubs

Nominator's rationale: Underpopulated stub category. As always, stub categories are not free for just any user to create on a whim for any random topic -- the minimum size requirement for a stub category is 60 articles, and much short of that a stub template should just upfile pages into a parent category. But there are only 16 articles here, with no prospect of finding 44 more as the parent Category:Radio stations in Zimbabwe only has three pages in it that aren't duplicated here.
The template is fine, as it can upfile pages in the parents, but we would need to have a lot more articles about radio stations in Zimbabwe than we've got before a dedicated stub category was justifiable. Bearcat (talk) 02:45, 4 December 2024 (UTC)