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I now archive my own page manually since I had some trouble with some archive bots. Basic rules for my talk page are as follows:
- If I have made a mistake and you are pretty darn angry about it... just relax and take a breath before screaming at me. Please don't forget this is just an encyclopaedia and we are all humans and we all make mistakes.
- No internet abbreviation's (Apart from 'btw') - I can't stand them.
- Standard English only... I don't understand things like: "da pony tr1ppd an feled an urt 1ts ne's"
- Keep foul language within reason and not directed at anyone (Unless they have been naughty).
Adoption
oh yes please. at the moment i'm pretty much lost so any help would be much appreciated. thanks AMIRITE 08:25, 1 August 2007 (UTC)
- Thanks for that. It'll help me get used to talk and discussion me thinks. AMIRITE 09:30, 1 August 2007 (UTC)
Actually we share a lot of common interests!! i was looking through your user page and its odd how many of your (templates? info boxes?) rectangles-with-words-and-a-picture i'll be copying. I'll probably be updating my page for the rest of the day. and bugging you for help and tips so thanks in advance for your help and patience. AMIRITE 10:12, 1 August 2007 (UTC)
well acting is a bit of a strong word for what i do. i try occasionally but i'm not very good. much better at the technical or production side of things. but acting is good for a laugh now and then. AMIRITE 10:58, 1 August 2007 (UTC)
- Easier said than done. Well for me anyway. I've been to Claire once. Stayed in Doolin for a little while. its a nice place.
right. i'm at a loss as to how to put in userboxes. well i know how the work i just need to find a list of them. for instance i can't find where the code for the native level of english box is. AMIRITE 12:29, 1 August 2007 (UTC)
- Ah Ha. Found it. Cheers. AMIRITE 13:10, 1 August 2007 (UTC)
howdy. i've just run into a bit of trouble, well more like confusion really with this page, http://en.wikipedia.org/Image:Skunk_Fu%21_characters.jpg i'm not sure how an image made available for free download stands in the licensing options. AMIRITE 08:58, 17 August 2007 (UTC)
So... wadaya think?...
...about this feller Darren Curtis Skanson. I smell self-promo... and lilely some bigtime copyvio from a personal website too. Thoughts? 156.34.142.110 14:45, 4 October 2007 (UTC)
- Ehile I have your attention... and if someone else has't done it already... could you rv this. Its a prot page so I can't touch it. 156.34.142.110 17:24, 4 October 2007 (UTC)
Thanks for reverting dinglenut's Twinkle violation. Editors shouldn't be allowed access the tools unless they prove they know how to use them. That's why I always liked VP... it's moderated... you have to apply to use it... you're judged on your edit history... and it can be taken away if you F**k around with it. Have a nice day! 156.34.142.110 14:59, 5 October 2007 (UTC)
Lifted music
just to let you know that the page is up now, thanks for all your help :). Still have to sort out the logo since i had a message from a bot, but it should be ok. cheers, take it easy!!Nurow 19:13, 5 October 2007 (UTC)
John C. McGinley
Thanks, yup, I love him in Scrubs, he is great. michfan2123 02:43, 8 October 2007 (UTC)
Another 'self-promo' for your amusement
Check out this little flowing of flax and fluff. Very "look at me, look at me" 156.34.221.91 14:12, 8 October 2007 (UTC)
- You are certainly fast!!! I barely had time to go get a coffee! I acutally discovered that one by A) Looking at Virtuosoone of the words that is used as a cruft adjective WAY too much on Wiki and then B)click on the "what links here" left hand link.... you will be whisked away to AfD and Speedy D heaven :D . Crufters, never beens and never will be's LOVE to label themselves as virtuosos. And that word links to over 400 pages. Some are legit subjects that just need to have the word virtuoso deleted from their article... since 99% of the time it's unreferenced and being used as an adjective. BUT... many of Wiki's virtuosos are absolute NN material and the virtuoso link makes it easy to find them. I have lots of experience finding these hacks... in fact... you could say I am a virtuoso at it :D 156.34.221.91 14:38, 8 October 2007 (UTC)
RfAs
Hello. I've seen you participate several times in RfAs where your comments have been "Oppose per X. Sorry". These are really not constructive comments. Maybe you should make up some original comments and suggestions about how the candidate can improve and ultimately become an admin and help out more around here. This would greatly help the user and Misplaced Pages in general. Happy editing! Regards, Agüeybaná 22:34, 8 October 2007 (UTC)
- No thank you :-) I shall continue to Oppose and Support RfA's anyway I wish. It is completely up to users how they support or oppose an RfA. Some user's don't even leave comments, are you going to suggest to them to be more constructive too? Allow me to explain, by the time I reach an RfA the points that I want to make have already been made and it saves me a lot of time rather than just repeating something. So, thank you very much for your helpful suggestion, friend :-) - But, no. Scarian 22:45, 8 October 2007 (UTC)
- "Are you going to suggest to them to be more constructive too?" Yes. "By the time I reach an RfA the points that I want to make have already been made and it saves me a lot of time rather than just repeating something." I understand that you've never gone through an RfA, but let me tell you that it is a really unpleasant experience, even it is successful. Piling on nonconstructive opposes does not help the candidate in any way. But, whatev. --Agüeybaná 22:50, 8 October 2007 (UTC)
- Buddy, I understand how frustrating it must be and I am sorry. Look - I'll compromise, next time I Support or Oppose an RfA I'll write my own reason, alright? But you gotta take notice that people get offended if you tell them what to do. Even if you smile sweetly and be all nice about it, people are still going to irritated if you tell them how to support or oppose an RfA. Take care and good luck with your RfA, friend. Scarian 22:59, 8 October 2007 (UTC)
- It's not my fault that people can't take good-faith suggestions nicely and must always be offended by every single comment made about them. --Agüeybaná 23:00, 8 October 2007 (UTC)
- No! Of course I understood and recognised it to be in good faith... but... I was just telling you something about psychology. People simply get annoyed if you tell them what to do, especially if it's something they've written. People tend to take what they've written and care for it like a child (We've all had brush in's with editor's on Misplaced Pages ;-). So you just gotta be extra careful in the future when you go and tell people to be more constructive with Opposes or Support's or whatever. Okay? Are we cool now, friend? Scarian 23:04, 8 October 2007 (UTC)
- Sure, thanks :-) Guess that's just how seriously screwed our society is. --Agüeybaná 23:07, 8 October 2007 (UTC)
- No! Of course I understood and recognised it to be in good faith... but... I was just telling you something about psychology. People simply get annoyed if you tell them what to do, especially if it's something they've written. People tend to take what they've written and care for it like a child (We've all had brush in's with editor's on Misplaced Pages ;-). So you just gotta be extra careful in the future when you go and tell people to be more constructive with Opposes or Support's or whatever. Okay? Are we cool now, friend? Scarian 23:04, 8 October 2007 (UTC)
- It's not my fault that people can't take good-faith suggestions nicely and must always be offended by every single comment made about them. --Agüeybaná 23:00, 8 October 2007 (UTC)
- Buddy, I understand how frustrating it must be and I am sorry. Look - I'll compromise, next time I Support or Oppose an RfA I'll write my own reason, alright? But you gotta take notice that people get offended if you tell them what to do. Even if you smile sweetly and be all nice about it, people are still going to irritated if you tell them how to support or oppose an RfA. Take care and good luck with your RfA, friend. Scarian 22:59, 8 October 2007 (UTC)
- "Are you going to suggest to them to be more constructive too?" Yes. "By the time I reach an RfA the points that I want to make have already been made and it saves me a lot of time rather than just repeating something." I understand that you've never gone through an RfA, but let me tell you that it is a really unpleasant experience, even it is successful. Piling on nonconstructive opposes does not help the candidate in any way. But, whatev. --Agüeybaná 22:50, 8 October 2007 (UTC)
ha! thanks :)
Thanks for removing the vandal's warning -- I could've sworn I'd done that, but it must've just slipped the mind. I blame the nature of vandal-fighting for my absentmindedness. ;o) Ashdog137 23:50, 8 October 2007 (UTC)
Hey, this is Drow Elf. I'd like to thank you for correcting me on my American/English spelling. I can spot commonly misspelled words pretty well, but I guess it just didn't occur to me that people in England would be editing Misplaced Pages too. Stupid me. Anyway, I think I corrected the word "encyclopedia" from its British spelling somewhere on this site. I need to try and fix that. Thanks again! —Preceding unsigned comment added by Drow Elf (talk • contribs) 13:13, 17 October 2007 (UTC)
Keep your eyeballs peeled
for fanboy crufting like this tripe that's been bombed in twise on the Def Leppard article. Check out the edit summary the first time it was dropped.... total fanboy/fannyboy(whichever :D) crufting. Almost as bad as inclusionists :D . 156.34.142.110 15:54, 9 October 2007 (UTC)
My recent RfA
I am sorry you felt it necessary to oppose my RfA, which did not succeed, at this time. I will attempt to make some more mainspace edits and get some more experience before my next RfA, which will be in two month's time. I hope I will have satisfied your concerns by then, but if not, please comment as you feel you should. Thanks for participating in my RfA. -- Cobi 07:37, 11 October 2007 (UTC)
Barnstar
File:Adopt Barnstar.PNG | The Adopting Barnstar | |
For adopting a user I Swirlex give you this adopting Barnstar. |
You are welcome and deserve it.Swirlex 10:36, 18 October 2007 (UTC)
LBi
Hi! I rejected the WP:CSD request because in its current state the article content does not appear to be blatant advertising under WP:CSD G11. It is a brief and relatively modest description of the company. The article asserts notability and the company appears to be of sufficient size and scope that it is not obviously non-notable. Speedy deletion is not the appropriate avenue in such cases, please use WP:AFD to determine if the article should be deleted. --Shirahadasha 03:18, 18 October 2007 (UTC)
- Thanks for your note. I realize when you first saw the article it was pretty blatantly advertising for the company and the puffery part was cut down to size by another user. Perhaps that is a route that could be taken if an article on a potentially notable company contains puffery. You can also notify WP:ANI if you notice puffery being added by someone connected with the organization. Thanks for your efforts. Best, --Shirahadasha 16:29, 18 October 2007 (UTC)
One for your review
Tripped over this piece of glaring non-notability. Stuffed a prod on it. Perhaps a more stern fate should be administered. What are your thoughts? 156.34.219.214 17:16, 22 October 2007 (UTC)
- Thanks for your input. Now... how 'bout this?. IT's early... it could just be that its VERY poor article quality makes it seems worse than it really is. 156.34.216.202 08:47, 23 October 2007 (UTC)
- The article is a pile of dump. He is known but not that well known. This one has a bigger chance of being kicked off than that Eastern European band. I'd say you could PROD it and see what happens. An AfD would be a bit of a fight but still leaning towards deletion. Scarian 11:09, 23 October 2007 (UTC)
- prodded. It'll likely get rm'd without any actual repair being done to the heap. Time will tell. 156.34.216.202 11:24, 23 October 2007 (UTC)
- The article is a pile of dump. He is known but not that well known. This one has a bigger chance of being kicked off than that Eastern European band. I'd say you could PROD it and see what happens. An AfD would be a bit of a fight but still leaning towards deletion. Scarian 11:09, 23 October 2007 (UTC)
Cradle of Filth
Not my caps - I merely quoted the instructions already on the page, a mere few words from where that edit was made (see ). --Stormie 00:49, 23 October 2007 (UTC)
NSW
I'll let you make that call. It doesn't matter what you do anyway; I'll be blamed for it. Edgar Bergen over there can't tell us apart! -- But|seriously|folks 09:47, 24 October 2007 (UTC)
- Sorry for eavesdropping Scarian but I just wanted to say the above comment is one of the funniest things I've read on here in the last few days :D . Which one's Charlie? 156.34.223.236 10:19, 24 October 2007 (UTC)
- I know what you mean! I found it very funny too :-D haha Scarian 10:21, 24 October 2007 (UTC)
Thought of the day Scarian
Ever notice(I believe I may have actually pointed this out to you before)... that the Misplaced Pages Metal Project is over-populated with d*nks. :D . After 400000+ edits you would think that I wouldn't get miffed by the idiots that try to edit here. But... there are the odd few who should get the banhammer. There... vented.... now back to "turn up the good and turn down the suck" :D . 156.34.238.220 23:20, 25 October 2007 (UTC)
- I think I may have stumbled across a sockpuppet for 'uber-troll' User:Scipo. Take a look at the contributions of this "sous le pont" editor and compare. It's like when one doesn't get his own way the other makes the same edit. Ever do a RCU before? 156.34.238.220 23:27, 25 October 2007 (UTC)
Actually, I'm not a puppet. And I don't care how many edits 156.34.238.220 has, he/ she was making unneccesary edits in abundance. As much I enjoy the title "idiot" and "d*nk" (w/e that is) it doesn't change the facts that this user's edits were supercillious. No consensus has been reached on the comma break vs. the line break issue, and I happen to think the line break looks cleaner. Not to mention, almost all metal band pages use the format of the line break between genres in the music infobox, unless you count nu metal, metalcore, or any -core bands. And let's face it real metal fans don't care about nu metal or any -core genres as they reek.Navnløs 23:35, 25 October 2007 (UTC)
- WP:SOAP??? anyone. "Real metal fans"... It's always disappointing when someone edits this project based on their own personal opinions and not for what the project was designed for. When you come to Misplaced Pages... check your opinions at the door... thay have no place here... right Scarian. I, myself, hate Barney... despise him. I hate The Wiggles too. And I hate ABBA... ooo I hate ABBA!!!!. But... despite my personal feeling towwards these subjects... I have probably reverted over a thousand vandalism edits to these pages. Our personal POV editor has a lot to learn about what Misplaced Pages is all about. All newbie editors should be forced to go to WP:POL and learn every sub-page that stems from there. He vertainly doesn't know what WP:3RR is :D. I should dare hime to try and stick a flagicon on the Motorhead page :D . He would see the lightning rv and our good admin friend who owns that page :D . I've mentored many an editor on here. And I've pitchforked many an editor back under the bridge from whence they came :D . I am undecided as to what fate awaits a few newbs I've crossed in the last few days. Time will tell :D . Where's that confounded bridge! 156.34.238.220 23:51, 25 October 2007 (UTC)
I would love to learn how to do an RCU :-D I told the user that he should take up his concerns with you rather than bung all the shit on my talk page . I'll have a quick look through the contribs of both users and if it's suspicious will you point out what to do next? Scarian 23:59, 25 October 2007 (UTC)
- Haha - saw what happened at the incident board. Nice!! haha - that made me laugh so much. So utterly futile. Scarian 00:04, 26 October 2007 (UTC)
- Upon further review I am leaning towards the idea that they are different editors who just haven't figured out the difference between an encyclopedia and a junior high book report. Scipo is definitely an "ignore the rules" editor who is here for his own purpose whilst the other gentleman has some tact and some "encyclopedic focus" to his contributions. I had to laugh at the "real metal fans" comment though. I've been a fan of heavy metal music(among many others) for almost 40 years... basically as long as there's been a heavy metal genre to be a fan of. When I think of the stereotyped "real metal fans" a mental picture of a snotty nosed, greasy haired, "shop class dropout" pops up. "Real metal fans" are the one's who read metal-archives.com without realising that it caters only to inbred idiots. I am sure Mr Navlos is not really one of those "level 4" stereotypes. He will, in the end, reveal himself to be a very benificial editor to the project as time goes by. Mr Scipo, on the other hand, seem to only be here for a single purpose. Time will tell. 156.34.214.123 00:16, 26 October 2007 (UTC)
- Alright - your call. I was just warming myself up by reading WP:RCU - the users did seem vaguely familiar though in their summaries, in my opinion that is. I'm here till late if you need me for anything, friend. Take good care of yourself. Scarian 00:19, 26 October 2007 (UTC)
- Upon further review I am leaning towards the idea that they are different editors who just haven't figured out the difference between an encyclopedia and a junior high book report. Scipo is definitely an "ignore the rules" editor who is here for his own purpose whilst the other gentleman has some tact and some "encyclopedic focus" to his contributions. I had to laugh at the "real metal fans" comment though. I've been a fan of heavy metal music(among many others) for almost 40 years... basically as long as there's been a heavy metal genre to be a fan of. When I think of the stereotyped "real metal fans" a mental picture of a snotty nosed, greasy haired, "shop class dropout" pops up. "Real metal fans" are the one's who read metal-archives.com without realising that it caters only to inbred idiots. I am sure Mr Navlos is not really one of those "level 4" stereotypes. He will, in the end, reveal himself to be a very benificial editor to the project as time goes by. Mr Scipo, on the other hand, seem to only be here for a single purpose. Time will tell. 156.34.214.123 00:16, 26 October 2007 (UTC)
- BTW, I see you've been accused of sockery yourself. Very nice! If you're going to be accused of being "meat" it's always nice when the other editor is noble... And Butseriouslyfolks is certainly that. I have always had respect for his editing. If you're goinf to be lumped in with anyone... he is certainly a decent one to get "put into the drawer" with :D . AND...on top of all that... you userpage went under a barrage of vandal attacks. That's even better. Back when I was a logged in editor, my userpage was vandalised over 100 times :D . I've always told all dedicated editors of this project... if your userpage get vandalised.... then you are definitely doing something right around here. Almost deserving of a barnstar for something like that I'd say. Not from my floater IP though. I will muster something up when I get back to my static IP. You've certainly been working hard and have earned one... if I do say-so myself... and I do. :) Have a nice day. 156.34.214.123 00:29, 26 October 2007 (UTC)
- Haha - that was, I think, the second or third time I've been called a "cunt" on Misplaced Pages. Lovely stuff! You always seem to drop me in it Libsey :-D Nathaniel Street-West - Remember that hunk of junk ? I put it up for AfD and BSF and I get accused of being one and the same :-D All thanks to you! Hehe. Oh, well I thank yee very much in advance for the barnstar! Take care, bud. Scarian 00:45, 26 October 2007 (UTC)
re: Iron Maiden
It was lost in this edit. I should have caught it long before this but I was still in NZ and suffering a bit of jet lag. Ahhh... but it's repaired now. Along with Saxon, Motorhead and Def Leppard(!), Iron Maiden are one of the key NWOBHM bands.... shame not to have that in the box. The talk page discussion supports the inclusion of it and heavy metal.. ONLY. Any other genres can be turfed(like progressive metal) because it was not part of the concensus. 156.34.214.123 01:34, 26 October 2007 (UTC)
- Roger you got it. I should've paid more attention. Damn me. Cheers! Scarian 01:36, 26 October 2007 (UTC)
Flirtin' away!
Scarian! How great to hear from my favorite Englishman! How are things 'cross the pond? And, yup, I'm just a big flirt..heh... I've been having fun, lotsa great folks on the 'pedia! Mostly been fighting vandals and socks...some speedies... It's great! Drop by anytime, my friend! Dreadstar † 01:43, 26 October 2007 (UTC)
Sox
I was thinking the same. (He's confusing me with a good editor? Cool!) I have dibs on the right sock, though. You'll have to play Mr. Sinister. -- But|seriously|folks 01:45, 26 October 2007 (UTC)
School
Thanks. I should have looked closer and got it all on the second go. CambridgeBayWeather (Talk) 01:46, 26 October 2007 (UTC)
Names
Saw it after-the-fact. I sense a wave of "I.P. Freely" type names are going to be set up...all from the same editor. Unencyclopediots! There always lurking about. 156.34.214.123 01:53, 26 October 2007 (UTC)
- Ahhh, my old friend VandalProof. I always loved using that tool. Have they fixed the bug yet that places the warning on the talk page of the editor previous to the actual vandal? Bad glitch there. 156.34.214.123 02:09, 26 October 2007 (UTC)
- RPP is listed. 156.34.214.123 02:52, 26 October 2007 (UTC)
Welcome to Misplaced Pages. Although everyone is welcome to make constructive contributions to Misplaced Pages, at least one of your recent edits, such as the one you made to Rambo (video game), did not appear to be constructive and has been reverted or removed. Please use the sandbox for any test edits you would like to make, and take a look at the welcome page to learn more about contributing to this encyclopedia. Thank you. A link to the edit I have reverted can be found here: link. If you believe this edit should not have been reverted, please contact me. Cmichael 02:57, 26 October 2007 (UTC)
- Hahahaha - Thank you. You've made my night. Scarian 02:58, 26 October 2007 (UTC)
- VP doesn't always do it...just occasionally. It does it with the recent changes feed, also. Sorry for the hassle, but glad to entertain. Cheers. Cmichael 03:03, 26 October 2007 (UTC)
Dropped by my office (and static IP) for just 1 edit today...
File:Resilient-silver.png | The Resilient Barnstar | |
You show nothing but positive growth and good humour from all your Wiki-experiences... whether they be good or bad. You will be nominated to be an admin someday. And I would resurrect my long discarded account just to be able to support your nom. Have a nice day! :D 156.34.142.110 01:55, 27 October 2007 (UTC) "Libs" |
Hey!
Lookin' for an easy AfD? Check out this piece of original research. All the refs are links to other Wiki pages. The article creator is one of those "Level 4's" we've discussed before. It's an easy pick. 156.34.208.166 03:06, 27 October 2007 (UTC)
- Done and tagged! :-D Scarian 12:10, 27 October 2007 (UTC)
- PS Check out this conversation :D . Class must've been let out early :D . Looking for some easy... EASY AfD fodder. Check out the edit history of the young "core" squire in the other half of the convo :D . Sometimes... they're just too easy. 156.34.208.166 03:27, 27 October 2007 (UTC)
- Ha - that seemed just like one of those convo's we have when we're kids. "You're an idiot!" "No, you're an idiot!" I'll have a lookey! Scarian 12:10, 27 October 2007 (UTC)
- PPS Need a template? Here's how the system works. The original AfD'er on that list was a user named Chubbles. I alerted him as to the repost of his AfD and its Speedy D tag. And to the possibility of starting a "sweeping list-fluff" wave of Wiki-cleanliness. Perhaps a new dawn of "listcruft-free" Wikidom is on the horizon. One could only hope. 156.34.208.166 03:39, 27 October 2007 (UTC)
- To quote Darth Vader... It's all too easy :D . Sorry for the ranting... too many coffee and not enough long walks on the trail with the dogs. :D . 156.34.208.166 03:45, 27 October 2007 (UTC)
- PPS Need a template? Here's how the system works. The original AfD'er on that list was a user named Chubbles. I alerted him as to the repost of his AfD and its Speedy D tag. And to the possibility of starting a "sweeping list-fluff" wave of Wiki-cleanliness. Perhaps a new dawn of "listcruft-free" Wikidom is on the horizon. One could only hope. 156.34.208.166 03:39, 27 October 2007 (UTC)
- Ha - that seemed just like one of those convo's we have when we're kids. "You're an idiot!" "No, you're an idiot!" I'll have a lookey! Scarian 12:10, 27 October 2007 (UTC)
- PS Check out this conversation :D . Class must've been let out early :D . Looking for some easy... EASY AfD fodder. Check out the edit history of the young "core" squire in the other half of the convo :D . Sometimes... they're just too easy. 156.34.208.166 03:27, 27 October 2007 (UTC)
New Way Home
Hey, dude. I noticed that you deleted this page because they are a band without much significance, but so what? Misplaced Pages should not distinguish between popular and unpopular bands, but rather should host information about any that users want to write about. And besides, if you went through wikipedia deleting all of the pages about bands you think are not significant, that would remove half of Misplaced Pages's content...
...all right, perhaps a slight exaggeration. Watto the jazzman 09:11, 27 October 2007 (UTC)
- Misplaced Pages does distinguish between Notable and non-notable bands though...
- "...but rather should host information about any that users want to write about..." - You're taking up challenging Misplaced Pages's core policy with me? Go to the WP:Help desk if you want to challenge what Misplaced Pages is about. I'm afraid I can't help you with that one. Scarian 11:40, 27 October 2007 (UTC)
Thanks
Thank you for the new 'shiny'. It's much appreciated. 156.34.142.110 12:43, 29 October 2007 (UTC)
Alright
First off, I apologize for writing on your talk page, I just did not know how else to talk to that user as he/ she was working without an account. I do appreciate that that user said some nice things above, though. I DO want to help wikipedia and I realize that I should leave opinions out of articles and trust me I understand that. That is why I avoid editing pages about subjects I do not like. I still believe the line break is better than the comma break and since no consensus has been arranged, I will continue to use the line break. Also =) I have used metal-archives on the rare occasion as it does have some useful information, and although I do not think the site is full of inbred idiots, I also see no reason to spend time on that site except to rarely look something up as they do have abundant information about discographies and the such.Navnløs 18:00, 29 October 2007 (UTC)
Signshare
From here on out let me handle the Ja Rule page what are you a fag or something? beef is always used in hip hop termanology to describe a feud and you replace it with row and argument? you probably don't listen to rap at all and that makes it sound gay so stay in your place and watch what you say I am putting beef back in and you better not remove it.