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Case Closed as of 16 January 2005

Please do not edit this page directly if you are not a participant in this case. Comments are very welcome on the Talk page, and will be read, in full. Evidence, no matter who can provide it, is very welcome at /Evidence. Evidence is more useful than comments.

Arbitrators will be working on a proposed decision at /Proposed decision.

Statement of complaint

HistoryBuffEr has consistently insisted on completely re-writing stable articles in a highly POV way, in particular and most recently the Yasser Arafat, Ariel Sharon, Rachel Corrie, Sabra and Shatila massacre, articles, but others as well, including Israeli-Palestinian conflict and Arab-Israeli conflict. Most significantly, in spite of dozens or perhaps hundreds of contested edits on these pages, HistoryBuffEr has refused to discuss any of them on the relevant Talk: pages, and in most cases has never even edited the Talk: pages, ignoring many invitations and requests to do so, as the edit histories of the article pages and Talk: pages show. As you will note, he generally ignores the Talk: pages on the articles, except to occasionally bully other editors with unspecified "warnings" and threats of "bannings", and refuses to discuss the changes he wishes to make to article content. He has also attempted to bully other editors by forcing ends to votes on VfD, in contravention of policy, even when these policies were explained to him by longstanding editors like user Cecropia. These activities are a long-standing pattern with him, present from his very first edits on Misplaced Pages as IP 66.93.166.174. As a simple example of his POV, he has insisted that the only NPOV way of describing Israeli settlements (the generally accepted term) is as "occupation colonies", going so far as to removing direct links to the Israeli settlements Misplaced Pages article. Finally, on the few articles where he does use the Talk: pages, his comments are often highly abusive, violating Misplaced Pages:No personal attacks and Misplaced Pages:Civility policies, as are his edit summaries, referring to user Jayjg as "user Jag loser" and "user Jag vandal" and "ultra-ultra-Ortodox POV pusher Jayjg", user Lance6wins as "sneaky Lance6Loser", user Gadykozma as "vandal Gadykozma", user Humus Sapiens as "Humus doltius patheticus", user Ambi as "sophomoric redirector" and a "zealot", and in general referring to editors he disagrees with as "dolt", pest", "zealot", "childish", "agitprop troops", "Zionist dolt", "Zionist extremist", "Zionist hack", "Zionistas", and no doubt other names. He has refused mediation on this: Misplaced Pages:Requests_for_mediation#Jayjg_and_HistoryBuffEr Jayjg 18:42, 4 Nov 2004 (UTC)

Complaint against Jayjg

Jayjg is an extraordinarily tenacious pusher of pro-Israel and anti-Palestinian POV, to the exclusion of practically any statement not added or approved by himself or his group of like-minded compatriots. Hour after hour, day after day, weekday or weekend, Jayjg keeps reverting any attempt to NPOV any article related to Israel or Palestine, with almost never providing any explanation, justification, or reasoned objection to such edits (aside from regularly calling fair edits "vandalism".)

For example:

• On Occupation of Palestine and many related articles, Jayjg has tried VfDs and redirections to prevent any article having "occupation" in the title from ever seeing the light of the day in wikipedia. He also keeps removing the word "occupation" (and derived terms) from any article related to Palestine. Same applies to the term "Palestine" itself: Jayjg insists on wording "disputed territories".

• Jayjg insists on adding to Yasser Arafat unconfirmed rumours and smears against Arafat, even though they are based on only one Israeli right-wing source, and confirmed by no one (he recently reverted this article 7 times in minutes.)

HistoryBuffEr fails to mention that it was he himself who was counter-reverting each time. How many people does it take to tango? -Zero 12:51, 8 Nov 2004 (UTC)

Three people for a tango. CheeseDreams 03:36, 24 Nov 2004 (UTC)

Conversely, Jayjg insists on removing from Ariel Sharon straight quotation from Kahan Commission, merely because he considers it damaging to Sharon. Jayjg keeps insisting on his POV reverts to this article despite the fact that most of these issues were discussed in the article Talk page and he was unable to substantiate either of his POV actions.

• Jayjg insists on removing from Operation Days of Penitence, among other things, a statement that Annan condemned the Israeli attack, a quote from a Palestinian civilian which sums up the operation, quotes from analysts, etc. On the other hand, he insists on a statement that most Palestinian victims were combatants, without providing any evidence, and so on. Jayjg keeps insisting on his POV reverts to this article despite the fact that these issues were discussed in the article Talk page and he was unable to substantiate either of his POV actions.

• On History of the Israeli-Palestinian conflict, despite extensive discussion and agreement on precise wording of statements re refugee negotiations between Israel and Arabs, Jayjg simply went into the article and put back the same disputed number, confirmed by no one and supplied by only one right wing pro-Israeli web site.

I could go on and on, but it should be obvious by now that Jayjg is extremely biased on the subject of Israel and is unwilling to tolerate even a hint of NPOV in any Israel related articles. Jayjg's discourse with NPOV editors consists largely of stubbornly reverting them and asking them to "propose changes in Talk first" for his approval. Not surprisingly, he obviously does not consider himself subject to his "rule" as has never submitted his changes for pre-approval by anyone.

As Jayjg is unwilling or unable to even consider NPOV as a basis for articles he keeps watch over, he should be barred from editing or reverting Israel/Palestine related articles for an extended period of time, at least until he shows clear signs of willingness to obey the most fundamental rule of Misplaced Pages -- Neutral Point of View.

Also:

• Jayjg has on numerous occasions violated the "3-reverts max" rule; his access to the "Rollback" button has made his POV pushing much easier --- too easy: Jayjg has more reverts than any other sysop.
• Jayjg has gone so far to even remove the "NPOV" notice from disputed articles several times.
• Jayjg has also abused his sysop privileges by reverting and then protecting articles.

As a sysop, Jayjg owes it to the Misplaced Pages community not to abuse his position, and to act as an example of proper behavior. As Jayjg has shown to be anything but a shining example to follow and has abused the convenience of sysop rights and tools, Jayjg amply deserves to be asked to surrender his sysop privileges, if not permanently then at least for an extended period of time.

HistoryBuffEr 04:46, 2004 Nov 8 (UTC)

P.S: As for dispute resolution attempts:

• Jayjg was repeatedly criticized by the community for behavior described above on several RfCs.
• Jayjg has recently requested mediation, but as he openly stated that the purpose of his RfM was not to negotiate but to merely impose his POV on me, any mediation would be obviously fruitless and I consider his insincere request for mediation invalid.

Statement by affected party

Preliminary decision

Arbitrators' opinions on hearing this matter (4/0/0/0)

1. Accept -- I will want to see diffs on the evidence page to establish more definitively what has been said in what context, but there is obviously a dispute to arbitrate here. Jwrosenzweig 19:18, 7 Nov 2004 (UTC)
2. Accept Fred Bauder 19:59, Nov 7, 2004 (UTC)
3. Accept. Also sounds like an temporary injunction is called for. →Raul654 21:41, Nov 7, 2004 (UTC)
4. Issue preliminary injunction, merge with Jayjg case above, and accept. --the Epopt 05:10, 8 Nov 2004 (UTC)

Arbitrators' opinions on hearing Jayjg (4/0/0/0)

1. Send them both to their rooms without supper. Issue preliminary injunction and merge with HistoryBuffEr case below. --the Epopt 05:04, 8 Nov 2004 (UTC)
2. Accept and merge as The Epopt suggests. Fred Bauder 13:55, Nov 8, 2004 (UTC)
3. Accept and merge, though honestly I assumed accepting the case brought by Jayjg implied that we would look into his conduct also -- I don't see why we needed a separate vote for this. Jwrosenzweig 15:02, 8 Nov 2004 (UTC)
4. Accept and merge. Let's get this one rolling. The Cunctator 20:28, 9 Nov 2004 (UTC)

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