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Reponse about Punk rock article

In response to your question on my talk page, I agree that there are too many redlinked bands in the punk rock article. In some sections, there is too much name-dropping of obscure bands and not enough substance. However, I have taken that article off my watchlist and will not be editing that article (at least for now) due to the "ownership" problem that prevents any significant cleanup of that article. Spylab (talk) 14:12, 2 January 2008 (UTC)

By ownership problem do you mean User:DCGeist?Hoponpop69 (talk) 18:20, 2 January 2008 (UTC)

• Affirmative. Spylab (talk) 18:47, 2 January 2008 (UTC)

What are you talking about?

I'm sorry but i honesty don't know any skaterrocker. I'm not sure how you could confuse me for being him. Plese show me how i'm like that person. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Rockismorethanmusic (talk • contribs) 22:11, 9 January 2008 (UTC)

As I said on your talk page, all my evidence is listed at Misplaced Pages:Suspected sock puppets/Skateremorocker(2nd).Hoponpop69 (talk) 22:18, 9 January 2008 (UTC)

Chevelle

Hi, how are you? You recently added a citation needed template to Chevelle's genre infobox. Genres usually do not need to be sourced, unless it is discussed on the talk page first. Sorry for the confusion. Cheers. —Burningclean  01:10, 15 January 2008 (UTC)

Mr. Bergis prank calls

Another editor has added the "{{prod}}" template to the article Mr. Bergis prank calls, suggesting that it be deleted according to the proposed deletion process. All contributions are appreciated, but the editor doesn't believe it satisfies Misplaced Pages's criteria for inclusion, and has explained why in the article (see also Misplaced Pages:What Misplaced Pages is not and Misplaced Pages:Notability). Please either work to improve the article if the topic is worthy of inclusion in Misplaced Pages or discuss the relevant issues at its talk page. If you remove the {{prod}} template, the article will not be deleted, but note that it may still be sent to Misplaced Pages:Articles for deletion, where it may be deleted if consensus to delete is reached. BJBot (talk) 16:44, 27 January 2008 (UTC)

Comment invited

As an occasional past editor at Template:United States presidential election, 2008,
your comment is invited at Template talk:United States presidential election, 2008#Revisited: Proposal on minimum standards for listing on template
-- Yellowdesk (talk) 18:36, 27 January 2008 (UTC)

January 2008

Welcome to Misplaced Pages. A page you recently created, The Interpreters, may not conform to some of Misplaced Pages's guidelines for new pages, so it will shortly be removed (if it hasn't been already). Please use the sandbox for any tests. For more information about creating articles, you may want to read Your first article. You may also want to read our introduction page to learn more about contributing. Thank you. Cenarium (talk) 17:36, 29 January 2008 (UTC)

Maybe you want your own sandbox ? In this case, you can create a subpage. -- Cenarium (talk) 17:41, 29 January 2008 (UTC)

Regarding your message on User talk:TheFireStillBurns.

There are official warning templates. The sentence "this is your first warning" doesn't cut it. When encountering editors who make these kinds of edits, please explain to the editor what he or she is doing wrong and link to the relevant policies/guidelines. If he ignores your advice, you can start using warning templates. They can be found here. Please use them from now on. Timmeh! 22:11, 6 February 2008 (UTC)

Template discussion

As an occasional editor to the discussion at Template:United States presidential election, 2008 your input would be appreciated at Template talk:United States presidential election, 2008#Proposal: A return to the old standards. Thank you.--STX 04:31, 20 February 2008 (UTC)

AfD nomination of Warped Tour 2007

I have nominated Warped Tour 2007, an article you created, for deletion. I do not feel that this article satisfies Misplaced Pages's criteria for inclusion, and have explained why at Misplaced Pages:Articles for deletion/Warped Tour 2007. Your opinions on the matter are welcome at that same discussion page; also, you are welcome to edit the article to address these concerns. Thank you for your time. Jmlk17 06:50, 21 February 2008 (UTC)

February 2008

Constructive contributions to Misplaced Pages are appreciated, but a recent edit of yours to the article Flyleaf has an edit summary that appears to be inaccurate or inappropriate. Please use edit summaries that accurately tell other editors what you did, and feel free to use the sandbox for any tests you may want to do. Thank you. NeilN 19:07, 24 February 2008 (UTC)

Revisiting Anberlin's genre

Hi, I noticed you were involved in the previous discussion about Anberlin's genre (specifically the Christian rock genre), and I just wanted to let you know that the matter has resurfaced again. I just wanted to invite you to take a look at the article's talk page and leave a comment sharing your ideas, views, suggestions, etc. Thanks! —Mears man (talk) 03:08, 25 February 2008 (UTC)

Flyleaf edit war

I have noticed your edits on the Flyleaf article and would appreciate it if you source your genre changes with a citation that is agreed upon by the users on the Talk page. Please join the conversation if you have an opinion or a useful change, but do not become rude or unpleasant, and please assume good faith in accordance with Misplaced Pages policy. This subject was a matter of discussion several months ago and was put to rest successfully. I hope we can do so again. Jparenti (talk) 12:58, 26 February 2008 (UTC)

As far as "mindless edits" go, try reading the Talk page before reverting edits. What I have done is put the article back the way it was before this issue became a problem again. The genre issue was resolved a while back, and I'm tired of having it drug up every other month. And assume good faith. I don't like nasty comments, and I'm sick of getting them. Jparenti (talk) 05:56, 27 February 2008 (UTC)

I don't even know where to start on how wrong your argument is.Hoponpop69 (talk) 06:08, 27 February 2008 (UTC)

Try it anyway. Go to the Talk page for the article, and share your opinion. And try doing it in a civil manner for a change. Calling anyone a "self hating Christian" or calling anyone blind or stupid or whatever will get you blocked. Rapidly. An admin has already been called in on this. How much farther does this ridiculous edit war have to go before it can be discussed reasonably? Jparenti (talk) 06:25, 28 February 2008 (UTC)

Arg at YOU!

You've messaged my regarding changing cited content on the Flyleaf page. I would like to state that someone else changed the cited information, I changed it back to its original state. I'm not attacking you, just stating that. I want the rediculous genre war on that page to stop as much as you do! —Preceding unsigned comment added by Tomozaurus (talk • contribs) 06:14, 27 February 2008 (UTC)

2 comments from your user page

The walmart source you speak of says they are alternative rock. Click on the CD and look half way down the page, you will see alternative rock. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Flyleaf 833 (talk • contribs) 01:53, 28 February 2008

You said for me to list my sources, I am new to wikipedia. How do I do it properly, like to make them where you can click on them and go to the article? Also, how many do you wish for me to list? 10? 20? 50? 100? Dwrayosrfour (talk) 15:55, 28 February 2008 (UTC)

SOURCES

I listed 10 sources supporting alternative rock for you on the talk page of the Flyleaf article. If you would like more let me know, I have 37 more good ones I can list. That is if you wish, I thought 10 would be sufficient for a start. We can then go from there I suppose. Dwrayosrfour (talk) 08:35, 1 March 2008 (UTC)

ONE THING FOR CERTAIN IS NONE OF THOSE SOURCES MENTION CHRISTIAN ROCK

My argument is that they are not a Christian rock band. I said many times they are always classified as alternative rock, heavy rock, alternative metal, etc., etc., etc. One thing for certain is pretty much NO ONE but you considers them Christian Rock. Like I told you, I can present you with 37 more sources that prove them NOT to be Christian Rock. I can find several dozen more if you would like. Dwrayosrfour (talk) 05:23, 2 March 2008 (UTC)

How can I explain this in a way that you'd understand, the three sources I listed DO list them as that. No matter how many source you find that list them as something else (and so far you've found no more sources listing them as one certain genre than I have) it doesn't cancel this out. If you want to discuss this further do it on the article talk page and not here.Hoponpop69 (talk) 06:49, 2 March 2008 (UTC)

SEVEN MORE SOURCES FOR YOU TO TRY AND EXPLAIN AWAY

See Flyleaf Talk Dwrayosrfour (talk) 07:38, 2 March 2008 (UTC)

With your perfect vision you should have realized I never said it was the link you provided. I said it was VH1. Your argument cannot stand to weaken any more. Dwrayosrfour (talk) 04:29, 3 March 2008 (UTC)

Stop with your falsities, and for the last time post in the discussion not here!Hoponpop69 (talk) 22:30, 3 March 2008 (UTC)

My falsities? Show me where I said it was the source you provided. I merely said it was VH1. Dwrayosrfour (talk) 22:54, 3 March 2008 (UTC)

From here on in I will not respond to you unless you post on the articles talk page and not here.Hoponpop69 (talk) 01:59, 4 March 2008 (UTC)

What you need to realize is I couldn't possibly care less if you respond to me or not. Dwrayosrfour (talk) 03:00, 4 March 2008 (UTC)

Request for mediation not accepted

A Request for Mediation to which you were are a party was not accepted and has been delisted. You can find more information on the case subpage, Misplaced Pages:Requests for mediation/Flyleaf. For the Mediation Committee, WjBscribe 19:15, 3 March 2008 (UTC)

Your recent edit

Hey, i just wanted to let you know that your edit on Misplaced Pages:Reliable sources/Noticeboard stated that there was a dispute about Anberlin's genre. I believe you meant "Flyleaf" so I took the liberty in changing it. I hope that's what you meant. --Pbroks13 04:27, 4 March 2008 (UTC)

That's what I meant, thank you.Hoponpop69 (talk) 04:57, 4 March 2008 (UTC)

Flyleaf

Hey, I've asked a question on the article talk page about the possibilities of including both genres, though probably with alternative rock as the primary genre. Please weigh in with your thoughts. In the meantime, would you care to explain the comment left on Jparenti's talk page that you signed as Dwrayosrfour? GlassCobra 19:08, 4 March 2008 (UTC)

I didn't try to deceive anyone. I simply moved a comment that Dwrayosrfour had mistakenly left on User:Jparenti to his talk page.Hoponpop69 (talk) 00:08, 5 March 2008 (UTC)

Okay, that's fine, it merely looked suspicious. As for your comment on my talk page, I do not believe I recall accusing you of refusing to acknowledge that Flyleaf is alternative rock. Could you please point to where I said this? GlassCobra 02:00, 5 March 2008 (UTC)

You didn't accuse me of anything, I was refering to the commenter above you.Hoponpop69 (talk) 02:13, 5 March 2008 (UTC)

I apologize for any misunderstanding that has occurred over this. I was not aware that that could be done, and it looked relatively strange to me, so I was curious. The user's reply also cast doubt upon it. I certainly didn't mean to accuse you of any wrongdoing. Jparenti (talk) 02:08, 5 March 2008 (UTC)

Listen, I agree with your standpoint; however, I must stress that throwing out names like "retard" and "ignoramus" are completely and utterly counter-productive, and I will block you if I catch you doing it again. We will achieve consensus eventually; until then, the article is in no real danger. Name calling is totally unnecessary, so I would appreciate if you would go back and amend your comments. GlassCobra 02:27, 6 March 2008 (UTC)

Just wanted to add "blind" "ignorant" and "self-hating Christian" to the many names he has called others. Dwrayosrfour (talk) 03:29, 6 March 2008 (UTC)

Hoponpop, we are still waiting for you to remove the personal attacks from your comments on Talk:Flyleaf. GlassCobra 23:09, 10 March 2008 (UTC)

You have my permission, remove it yourselves.Hoponpop69 (talk) 00:46, 11 March 2008 (UTC)

Family Force 5 Genres

I want to point out something about the "unsourced" information you removed here . The genre you removed is sourced in the Musical Style section of the Article. citations do not belong in the infobox, and the infobox is only intended to have information that is already in the article. If you don't have any complaints, I will add it again. --A (talk) 08:19, 9 March 2008 (UTC)

That is not a valid source because it is first party information. Furthermore please show me where it says you can't put citations in infoboxs.Hoponpop69 (talk) 15:45, 9 March 2008 (UTC)

Ugh.... You're right... I hate being wrong. I have a problem with it just saying rapcore, because family force 5 is so much more than that... but i guess I will have to do more research. As for citations in infoboxes, I've picked up the idea from other editors, which would imply some sort of general consensus, I have read on several talk pages that Infoboxes should only repeat information that is already someplace in the article. If the information is already cited in the article itself, and once a fact has been presented and cited it does not need to be cited again when it is revisited elsewhere.--A (talk) 20:53, 10 March 2008 (UTC)

RJA

Just a note, I added all those genre citations a few months ago in the RJA article in an attempt to reduce genre edit-warring among anons. It didn't work. Honestly, the genre designations seem to be doing very little to improve the article, and some editors have made the case that genre sourcing is all just original research, anyway. In any case, vandalism to the page has quieted down enormously since I removed my own citations. Chubbles (talk) 00:38, 15 March 2008 (UTC)

You shouldn't withhold sourced information because it is more convenient for you. Besides if there is that big a problem with people removing information get the page locked.Hoponpop69 (talk) 02:09, 16 March 2008 (UTC)

Wait, I think you misunderstood my post. I added all the sourced information. I am now proposing that it be removed because it constitutes Original Research on my part. Chubbles (talk) 02:59, 16 March 2008 (UTC)

Regarding References

I will gladly provide references for my edits upon request. Almost everyone knows that Family Force 5 is considered "crunk" by the band members (google some of the interviews. I'll try and find a couple in a few minutes), not "hardcore". Cheers. user:SuperDMChan 15:03, 15 March 2008 (UTC0

Family Force Five

I have reverted your recent edit. If you wish to include Christian Rock in the infobox add a source for it. 75.125.166.49 (talk) 17:08, 30 March 2008 (UTC)

Thread on AN/I

FYI. A thread has been started on AN/I about recent comments on Talk:Flyleaf. --Onorem♠Dil 22:29, 31 March 2008 (UTC)

Block

The evidence at shows an intolerable attitude towards fellow editors. When you return, do not make such remarks to others or else you may be blocked indefinitely next time. Jehochman 00:14, 1 April 2008 (UTC)

Do whatever you want I couldn't possibly care less. Dwrayosrfour (talk) 23:11, 4 April 2008 (UTC)

August Burns Red

I started a disscution on August Burns Red being a alternative rock band. go on to their disscution page. thank you.Rockismorethanmusic (talk) 23:19, 4 April 2008 (UTC)

Welcome to Misplaced Pages

You're clearly new here, as you don't know how to sign the messages you leave on others' Talk pages. You do so by including four of those little squiggly things, you know, "~," at the end of your message. You can do that efficiently by clicking on them in the handy toolbox just below the edit window. Cheers! Dan.—DCGeist (talk) 23:54, 4 April 2008 (UTC)

Sum 41 and User talk:Timmeh

In regards to the genre of Sum 41: Timmeh (talk · contribs)'s edits aren't vandalism -- they're a content dispute. Don't put vandalism warnings on Timmeh's talk page if you disagree with his edits. Talk it out on the article talk page. --Elkman 23:57, 4 April 2008 (UTC)