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Juliusz Słowacki Theatre
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Did you know...
- ...that a church of the Order of the Holy Ghost once stood at the site of the Juliusz Słowacki Theatre (pictured) in Kraków?
Barbican of Warsaw
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On December 20, 2006, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Barbican of Warsaw, which created. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the "Did you know?" talk page. |
Did you know...
- ...that Barbican of Warsaw (pictured) became obsolete almost immediately after its construction in 1548?
Florian Gate
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On January 13, 2007, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Florian Gate, which created and substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the "Did you know?" talk page. |
-- Nishkid64 01:31, 13 January 2007 (UTC)
Did you know...
- ...that of Kraków's eight original medieval city gates, only the Gothic Florian Gate (pictured) remains?
Maria Pawlikowska-Jasnorzewska
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On 24 January, 2007, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Maria Pawlikowska-Jasnorzewska, which created and substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the "Did you know?" talk page. |
--Yomangani 00:27, 24 January 2007 (UTC)
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Did you know...
- ...that poet and playwright Maria Pawlikowska-Jasnorzewska (pictured), known as the Polish Sappho, discussed topics such as abortion, extra-marital affairs, and incest?
St. Florian's Church
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On February 13, 2007, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article St. Florian's Church, which created and substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the "Did you know?" talk page. |
Did you know...
- ...that the relics of St. Florian kept in St. Florian's Church (pictured) were brought to Kraków from Rome for political reasons?
Dunajec River Gorge
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On 23 February, 2007, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Dunajec River Gorge, which created and substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the "Did you know?" talk page. |
--ALoan (Talk) 13:50, 23 February 2007 (UTC)
Did you know...
- ...that Goral highlanders have organized daily canoe trips down Dunajec River Gorge (pictured) in Pieniny National Park, Poland since the early 19th century?
Niedzica Castle
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On 3 March, 2007, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Niedzica Castle, which created and substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the "Did you know?" talk page. |
--Carabinieri 12:41, 3 March 2007 (UTC)
Did you know...
- ...that the last Hungarian inhabitants of Niedzica Castle, Poland, (pictured) remained there until 1943 when the coming of the Soviet front in World War II inspired the last countess to abandon it with her children?
Augustów Canal
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On 25 March, 2007, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Augustów Canal, which created and substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the "Did you know?" talk page. |
--howcheng {chat} 06:36, 25 March 2007 (UTC)
Did you know...
- ...that the Augustów Canal in north-eastern Poland (pictured) was built in order to circumvent high customs duties introduced by Prussia for the transit of goods to the Baltic Sea?
Kupa Synagogue
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On 4 April, 2007, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Kupa Synagogue, which created and substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the "Did you know?" talk page. |
--howcheng {chat} 06:44, 4 April 2007 (UTC)
Did you know...
- ...that the Kupa Synagogue (pictured) in Kraków features paintings of people standing by the rivers of Babylon, a rare depiction of human figures in Jewish religious art?
Lucjan Dobroszycki
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On 10 April, 2007, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Lucjan Dobroszycki, which created and substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the "Did you know?" talk page. |
--howcheng {chat} 16:17, 10 April 2007 (UTC)
Did you know...
- ...that Jewish-Polish historian Lucjan Dobroszycki who survived the Łódź Ghetto (pictured) in World War II became known as the New York City YIVO's "research consultant to the stars"?
Collegium Novum
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On 23 April, 2007, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Collegium Novum, which created and substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the "Did you know?" talk page. |
--howcheng {chat} 18:24, 23 April 2007 (UTC)
Did you know...
- ...that the students of Jagiellonian University tore the portrait of Emperor Franz Joseph I to pieces at the Collegium Novum (pictured) while rallying for independence from the Austrian Empire?
Church of St. Wojciech
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On 14 May, 2007, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Church of St. Wojciech, which created and substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page. |
--howcheng {chat} 21:53, 14 May 2007 (UTC)
Did you know...
- ...that the floor of the Church of St. Wojciech (pictured) in Old Town, Kraków is up to 2.6 m below the level of the Main Market Square, repeatedly overlaid with new pavement in the course of eight centuries?
Henryk Jordan
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On 31 May, 2007, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Henryk Jordan, which created and substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page. |
Sean William @ 19:35, 31 May 2007 (UTC)
Agricultural University of Kraków
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On 15 June, 2007, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Agricultural University of Kraków, which created and substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page. |
--Carabinieri 19:15, 15 June 2007 (UTC)
Ludwik Solski Academy for the Dramatic Arts
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On 19 June, 2007, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Ludwik Solski Academy for the Dramatic Arts, which created and substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page. |
--howcheng {chat} 00:17, 19 June 2007 (UTC)
The Pontifical Academy of Theology
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On 19 June, 2007, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article The Pontifical Academy of Theology, which created and substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page. |
--howcheng {chat} 17:22, 19 June 2007 (UTC)
Did you know...
- ...that the courses in bioethics and journalism are a part of the academic curriculum of The Pontifical Academy of Theology (pictured) in Kraków, Poland?
Jordan Park
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On August 6, 2007, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Jordan Park, which created and substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page. |
Blnguyen (bananabucket) 08:49, 6 August 2007 (UTC)
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Did you know...
- ...that Jordan Park, set up in 1889 as Kraków's first public playground (pictured), gave free meals to children?
- ...that Jordan Park, set up in 1889 as Kraków's first public playground (pictured), gave free meals to children?
Polish Jura Chain
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On 7 August, 2007, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Polish Jura Chain, which created and substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page. |
--Circeus 23:27, 7 August 2007 (UTC)
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Did you know...
- ...that the Jurassic limestone formations of the Polish Jura Chain (pictured) upland contain some 220 caves?
Kościuszko Mound
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On August 23, 2007, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Kościuszko Mound, which created and substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page. |
--ragesoss 16:26, 23 August 2007 (UTC)
Socialist realism in Poland
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On 23 April, 2008, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Socialist realism in Poland, which substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page. |
Cheers, Bobet 12:40, 23 April 2008 (UTC)
Did you know...
- ...that the Palace of Culture and Science (pictured) defining socialist realism in Poland, was designed in the Soviet Union and erected by 3500 Soviet workers brought into Warsaw in 1952–1955?
Removal of reliably sourced information
Please stop repeatedly removing reliably sourced information from the article Fear: Anti-Semitism in Poland after Auschwitz, as you did here. Discuss edits on the article talk page. Simply removing material becuase you do not approve of it is unacceptable, and will eventually be treated as vandalism if you persist. Boodlesthecat 16:41, 21 May 2008 (UTC)
- My endless optimism makes me believe that you’re a reasonable person otherwise, even though I was disturbed by the tone of your messages written to User:Ludvikus. Please take a closer look at the kind of stuff you’re defending with “virulent quality”. Reviewers tend to write anything they can get away with, but (for the sake of argument) would you be willing to accept a similar generalization about “virulent quality of postwar Jewish anti-Polonism” in an article? If not, this is more less a rhetorical question. There must be a middle ground worthy of your effort, because I will not let you keep for long these sort of outbursts of hate propaganda sweeping across North America lately. --Poeticbent talk 17:34, 21 May 2008 (UTC)
- The article is full of statements that I don't agree with, as are thousands of articles on Misplaced Pages. Tbe Holocaust denial article conatins accounts of views that I find abhorrent. It doesnt matter--it's an encyclopedia, and the info is realizably sourced. I don't throw away my television if it shows my favorite team losing the ballgame! Boodlesthecat 17:52, 21 May 2008 (UTC)
- PS: Many editors, myself included, were very patient with User:Ludvikus, and he abused our good will repeatedly, and constabntly manipulated editors and played them against each other. He has only himself to blame for his troubles. Boodlesthecat 17:56, 21 May 2008 (UTC)
- To continue with your own metaphor, of course there are "ballgames" our compatriots (or teams) have lost in the past... We, the audience, tend to admit to it with the sense of distress, but that does not mean, that our teams’ faults have a “virulent quality” to it thus justifying an across the board condemnation. This is what Wiesel does with quantifiable notoriety (not a Nobel laureate in literature by any means) drawing criticism from scholars like Norman Finkelstein. Try to "walk a mile in my shoes" for starters. --Poeticbent talk 18:23, 21 May 2008 (UTC)
- Again, if the information is reliably sourced, that is all that matters. Look at this article: David Irving. This man's views are virulent and despicable. But we don;t censor the presentation of his views. We present them, and then present reliably sourced opinions about it. Many people find Norman Finkelstein's views virulent, but we don't censor the presentation of his views. Presenting Gross' views does not mean we agree with it and...try to give readers credit for being intelligent enough to know that they don't have to agree with it either! Boodlesthecat 18:31, 21 May 2008 (UTC)
- Now it is you who’s being tendentious. Of course we censor our articles… as per WP:NOR, WP:FRINGE, WP:POINT, WP:UNDUE, etc. Please look at the Edit history for the David Irving (or Norman Finkelstein) aricle. Going back to the subject at hand, the quote, you insist on keeping, sounds like Dzerzhinsky talking about kulaks. Please, just listen to it: “We must seek the reasons for the novel, virulent quality of postwar anti-Semitism in Poland” (the country with the majority of all Righteous Among the Nations). This is pure unabated crap, excuse my language. I would very much like you to notice that on your own, before the next wave of edit war erupts. Besides, the quote, as it stands does not have a memorable quality similar to those of notorious ideologues and politicians. Btw, I can easily supply and paste-in extended blockquotes of those who think that Gross is a man blinded by hate and his own lies, but I won’t, because all I care about is middle ground. --Poeticbent talk 19:47, 21 May 2008 (UTC)
- No because you have been removing reliably sourced information, not information that is WP:NOR, WP:FRINGE, WP:POINT, WP:UNDUE. If anything is violating WP:UNDUE etc, it's the extended amount of space given to the SELF PUBLISHED analyses of the barely known or unknown "think tank." You should be happy no one is insisting that reliable sources (e.g., the Institutes's views as published in an actual reliable source) be supplied for those quotes! I suggest you stop taking this so personally and review the guidelines, that way you are less likely to get into difficulties later on for the types of edits you have been making (eg, the diff above at the top of this section). Boodlesthecat 20:06, 21 May 2008 (UTC)
- Look, I don’t expect you to change your views (nor your ways, by that matter). I’ve already experienced how unyielding and inconsiderate they might be when push comes to shove. I’m sure you have your reasons. For myself, I’ve never participated in an article attacking any nation en masse, but I will protest any politically charged attack triggered by Polonophobia. --Poeticbent talk 23:28, 21 May 2008 (UTC)
Comment
I'm not an edit-warrior-type. Edit warring eats away at my spirit. I feel sorry for how our collective work on an article about a book developed into an argument over a logical fallacy introduced by a user hidden behind a moniker and trying to endorse his prejudices. Loaded question: "When did you stop beating your wife?" What if the subject is unmarried, or has never beaten his wife? Since this is a yes/no question, there are only the following two direct answers: "Yes, I have stopped beating my wife", which entails that "I was beating my wife" or "No, I haven't stopped beating my wife", which entails "I am still beating my wife." This is what the quote from Gross defended by User:Boodlesthecat really means. "We must seek the reasons for the novel, virulent quality of postwar anti-Semitism in Poland" (the country with the most Righteous Among the Nations). The presupposition implies that "the novel, virulent quality of postwar anti-Semitism in Poland" was a fact for which only "the reasons" must be found. However, no evidence is given in the article for any of these claims. Meanwhile, the expression "virulent quality" employs a qualifier suggesting bitter, malicious, exceedingly notorious nature of this phenomenon, which is a propaganda trick. No wonder Polish readership was stirred by this sort of language. The book sells very well indeed and it's easy to understand why, but do we have to promote the controversy in the same manner in Misplaced Pages? No, we shouldn't. That's why I'm so impressed with the coolheaded and intelligent comment made in Talk by User:Malcolm Schosha who was not involved in the creation of this article. He said: "It is quite enough to give a description of the content of the book, and a description of some of the main positives, and main objections in the reviews. In Poland the book created a fire storm of controversy, and that should be mentioned. There are far too many editors here trying to prove the 'truth' as they see it, when they know very well that is not the job of Misplaced Pages editors." Couldn't say it better myself. --Poeticbent talk 17:32, 22 May 2008 (UTC)
User notice: temporary 3RR block
Regarding reversions made on May 21 2008 to Fear: Anti-Semitism in Poland after Auschwitz
Poeticbent (block log • active blocks • global blocks • contribs • deleted contribs • filter log • creation log • change block settings • unblock • checkuser (log))
Request reason:
Please override my block on failure to conform to procedure. One of the basic requirements of a temporary block is that the proper report be filled and a 3RR warning given before the decision can be reached by an admin. Such report would’ve enabled me to respond in turn and present my side of the story, but a report against me was never filled. The block template appeared on my Talk page (above) out of the blue barely conforming to article's edit history. In fact, the 3RR rule was not broken at all, if you count a partial edit to an edit as one and the same in accordance with policy. (Please see Edit history below.
Decline reason:
In other words, you were attempting to carefully edit war without stepping over the 3RR bounds. Tough. Three reverts is not an entitlement; the point is to stop edit warring in its tracks, and blocking you accomplished that. --jpgordon 00:29, 22 May 2008 (UTC))
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Edit history
- 07:23, 21 May 2008 first edit on that day (not a revert)
- 07:29, 21 May 2008 name added (continuation of same)
- 15:14, 21 May 2008 (first revert)
- 16:10, 21 May 2008 (second revert)
- 16:30, 21 May 2008 (third revert)
That’s all. No 3RR broken. --Poeticbent talk 23:03, 21 May 2008 (UTC)
I have not and will not struggle through all that jungle of edits and versions. One thing it was about, in any case, was the the quote "We must seek the reasons for the novel, virulent quality of postwar anti-Semitism in Poland not in collective hallucinations"etc as restored here. You've then reverted its addition one, two, three, four times within 10 hours calling it anti-Polish, violating 3RR. There is absolutely no requirement to list cases at the 3RR board. Sciurinæ (talk) 23:53, 21 May 2008 (UTC)
- Thanks for such a prompt response Sciurinæ. I appreciate you willigness to help, but please note that my first edit on that date did not concern the series of edits that preceded it (one intermediate, second, third, from previous day!) My first revision was made using Misplaced Pages:BRD method, keeping highly political discussion moving forward. The reaction on my Talk page (see above) is the best proof that my proactive method worked. I'd like to be cleared of any wrongdoing, because I was watching my back all along and knew very well what was what. I made three reverts before I stopped. --Poeticbent talk 00:23, 22 May 2008 (UTC)
- I have seen too late that you wanted me to respond ("please respond") and don't know if that request still stands. Regarding your implication that the first revert was just an edit that did not concern the series of edits that preceded it, this is simply not correct, not least because you'd reverted that very piece of text before. You also didn't follow the BRD method, which by no means instructs you to revert (on the contrary). And you can't be serious about the success of your method with regard to the discussion on your talk page with you just having referred to the dispute as "an argument over a logical fallacy introduced by a user hidden behind a moniker and trying to endorse his prejudices." Sciurinæ (talk) 19:02, 22 May 2008 (UTC)
- Thank you for expressing your opinion in such a straightforward manner. I appreciate that, even though I disagree with your conclusions. The discussion on this page would not have been possible anywhere else and that’s progress. Btw, I noticed you’re no stranger to Poland-related edit wars for which you have been blocked as well, so I’m sure you can understand. --Poeticbent talk 19:41, 22 May 2008 (UTC)
- That last remark was uncalled-for. Sciurinæ (talk) 19:57, 22 May 2008 (UTC)
- Thank you for expressing your opinion in such a straightforward manner. I appreciate that, even though I disagree with your conclusions. The discussion on this page would not have been possible anywhere else and that’s progress. Btw, I noticed you’re no stranger to Poland-related edit wars for which you have been blocked as well, so I’m sure you can understand. --Poeticbent talk 19:41, 22 May 2008 (UTC)
- I have seen too late that you wanted me to respond ("please respond") and don't know if that request still stands. Regarding your implication that the first revert was just an edit that did not concern the series of edits that preceded it, this is simply not correct, not least because you'd reverted that very piece of text before. You also didn't follow the BRD method, which by no means instructs you to revert (on the contrary). And you can't be serious about the success of your method with regard to the discussion on your talk page with you just having referred to the dispute as "an argument over a logical fallacy introduced by a user hidden behind a moniker and trying to endorse his prejudices." Sciurinæ (talk) 19:02, 22 May 2008 (UTC)