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Sphinx Head is currently a good article nominee. Nominated by an unspecified nominator at 15:54, 13 June 2008 (UTC)

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I dont understand why this article would be considered for deletion. If you have any suggestions for how to make it better please post them here. Cornell1890 (talk) 16:09, 9 December 2007 (UTC)

The biggest issue I would see for this article is the list of notable alumni. If you look at some of the pages regarding freemasonry, and its appendant/concordant bodies, we have tried to limit those lists to only a very few, specifically looking at those who are notable because of their membership, or their activities which relate to their membership in the group.--Vidkun (talk) 18:39, 10 December 2007 (UTC)

New York Times reference

Can a single remark in a 541 word article appearing over 79 years ago in the New York Times be construed as a basis for that paper's endorsement: 'recognized by The New York Times as "the highest non-scholastic honor within reach of undergraduates.'? I do not think this citation in a very old article can be construed as any sort of endorsement that the current day paper would undertake about the current day society. And while I pray that this article's wait in the Good Article nomination queue will be considerably shorter than 79 years, I do hope that editors will make use of intervening time to consider how well such references work. In addition, I find that the very comprehensive, and apparently very carefully referenced, list of notable alumni detracts from the article. In my opinion, the list as a whole plunges into considerably greater detail about just one facet of the society — notable alumni — than what other facets explored by the article do. The list is about an invigorating a read as a telephone directory. In light of this, please consider the Manual of Style Embedded list guideline; a paragraph of clear prose far outweighs an exhaustive, even exhaustively referenced, list, which is a mechanical communication effort at best – my humble opinion, of course. Gosgood (talk) 14:19, 11 June 2008 (UTC)

GA

I've remove the article from WP:GAN because it is more of a list than an article. If you want to, you can nominate it at WP:FLC.

I disagree with this.
  1. The article was nominated in good faith.
  2. It has been in the queue for a long time
  3. It does not obviously quick-fail.
  4. In light of that, it should remain on queue until such time that an editor can evaluate the article fully in connection with the good article criteria and render a decision in accordance with those criteria.

Simply removing an article from the nomination queue for a reason that has not been established as a quick-fail criterion is irregular, which has a knock on effect on the trustworthiness of the Good Article nomination and evaluation process. I've made further remarks here. EyeSerene has opened a Good article review page as well. Please join the discussion there. Thank you. Gosgood (talk) 17:27, 12 June 2008 (UTC)

GA Review of Sphinx Head

Following the discussion on the Good Article Reassessment page, there is general agreement that a misunderstanding has taken place, that articles should depart from the nomination queue only after an evaluation has taken place and has been published on a subpage. I am undertaking that review now. Accordingly, I am taking the extraordinary steps of reverting EyeSerene's edits to restore the {{GA nominee}} template and establish a review page, which will be transcluded to this section here. Apologies to the editors awaiting an evaluation for so long now. Thank you for your patience. Gosgood (talk) 15:33, 13 June 2008 (UTC)

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