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Discussion

I am doubtful that the Samantha Brown to whom Bob Dylan refers in his song is the same Samantha Brown who appears on the Travel Channel and who is the subject of this article. --Lazylisa 07:26, 7 December 2005 (UTC)

Humor Illustration

I understand that some users want a picture in the article to illustrate Sam's quirky humor. But couldn't somebody get a better picture than the one showing a close-up of her feet? Nygoodliving 05:21, 22 November 2006

It is a pretty funny picture. How better can you illustrate humor? 69.118.244.33 04:47, 30 January 2007

Actually that pic doesn't really illustrate her humor, unless you assume a certain context that only Sam Brown fans might know about. But just suggesting that "somebody" get something "better" isn't very helpful. And of course, remember that even though there may be pictures available that are more obviously humorous , it doesn't mean thay can be used in Misplaced Pages. x 16:15, 30 January 2007 (UTC)

Well, I have to say that the image does illustrate her humor, because it's a bit silly. 69.118.244.33 04:36, 2 February 2007 (UTC)

Again, it's only because you're familiar with the context of what Sam is like on her shows. x 17:02, 2 February 2007 (UTC)

Let me word it differently...since you seem to know how Sam uses her sense of humor on her shows, then you likely have an assumption of what that photo might be about, where she's just Sam being a bit wacky. But for someone not familiar with her style, it may not come across as funny, just odd. So, yes, as long as you understand her style, it is indeed an example of her humor; but to someone who doesn't know about her, it doesn't illustrate it to them (an illustration and an example aren't necessarily the same thing). x 19:15, 2 February 2007 (UTC)

I disagree. I think it's clear that the photo is slapsticky and you don't need to know a thing about this person (I don't) to see that it's humorous. It's the forced perspective that is amusing. Not sure what all the fuss is about. Larry Dunn 21:08, 2 February 2007 (UTC)

No "fuss", just clarifying (jeez). But sure, if an objective eye does understand it enough in the context of the surrounding article, cool. That's why we have a talk page. x 22:44, 2 February 2007 (UTC)

Why the "jeez?" It does seem a bit of a fuss to have this lengthy a discussion of a funny picture, but what's a little fuss amongst friends? :-> Larry Dunn 21:53, 5 February 2007 (UTC)

Ah I see ... you say it's a fuss because you think the discussion is moot because the conclusion is already obvious, yes? Understandable. However, I think you're also caught up in a presumed context about the image, which is what I was really discussing, not the image per se. I do know that if I saw that pic with no context or background, I could conceive of a lot of things it could be about that aren't necesarily comedic. But again, if the article provides enough context for it to work, then great. x 16:56, 7 March 2007 (UTC)

I didn't say the conclusion was "obvious," I said that it is a fuss to have this lengthy a discussion of it. I also think there isn't much utility to parsing out "the image per se" from "the context of the image." By th way, regarding your penultimate sentence, what else could such a silly image be about other than comedy? Larry Dunn 20:10, 7 March 2007 (UTC)

Yeah, I should have worded it "you say it's a fuss; it seems it's because you think the discussion is moot because the conclusion is already obvious, yes?"

isn't much utility to parsing out and what else could such a silly image be about
To respond, I would only be repeating what I've already said. x 20:48, 7 March 2007 (UTC)

As would I. Still curious though as to how that image can be seen in a way quite different from humor. Larry Dunn 22:30, 7 March 2007 (UTC)

A better main image

The image of Sam's feet was originally posted to illustrate a particular point about her style of humor. Moving it over to being the main image negated the reason it was posted in the first place, and definitely does not improve the article, as it barely shows what she looks like in a useful way. So I moved it back in the spirit of keeping the original intent, and in prep to provide a better main image, which I will do if someone else doesn't first. So patience please. x 22:43, 6 March 2007 (UTC)

Well, I've posted a screenshot from Great Hotels which I think is pretty good, but will keep looking for something better. x 10:16, 7 March 2007 (UTC)

Thanks -- looks good to me.Larry Dunn 20:11, 7 March 2007 (UTC)

Pinnacle Bank

I removed this text until someone could fix the overall writing, and possibly verify or at least cite.

Samantha is also a spokesperson for the US Bank Pinnacle Annual Awards. She gives a guide of the resort that the Pinnacle Awards will be held, much like she does in her television shows. Recently the award ceremony was held at the Phoenician in Scottsdale, Arizona. The 2007 awards will be held at the St. Regis in Hollywood.
x 17:35, 15 March 2007 (UTC)

images

The image of Sam in the hammock was apparently deleted with no notice. That's not how it's supposed to work here. There's a procedure for deleting images. And the "foot" pic was removed without any explanation that fits WP policy on image use, just a vague statement about fair use. Please discuss these things befroe removing them. I'm also going to look into replacing the "hammock" image, and will expect proper templates to be applied and discussed before it's deleted. This constant battle over images is ridiculous. x 17:41, 8 April 2007 (UTC)

I don't know how I first wandered onto this article, but I'm finding the saga of its images to be fascinating. Why is there no discussion of the removal of images, or the rationale given for their removal? It seems like bad wikipolicy to toss things like that without discussing first, to arrive at a consensus. This is a page about a minor American celeb and there are no images on it! What has to happen to change that situation? Larry Dunn 21:21, 30 April 2007 (UTC)

Well, lately there seems to be a general campaign of image removal on WP. WP's copyright policy is constantly in flux, and there are those taking adavantage of that to summarily remove images. Part of the bizarre rationale now is that if someone is alive, you can theoretically go take your own photo of them and release the rights. How hard it would be to get the photo is not considered relavant according to current policies, as long as it's theoretically possible. Which of course is stupid. x 14:57, 1 May 2007 (UTC)

You know, it might be time to fight back. I'm not even sure I remember what this gal does, but perhaps this page should be preserved from overly-nervous wikipedians .... Larry Dunn 19:36, 2 May 2007 (UTC)

I just uploaded a new image of Samantha Brown. Please don't remove the image until OTRS has its say. I got permission from someone at flickr to use their photograph they took of her and Samantha Brown. http://flickr.com/photos/dottielou/110550207/ --Kolrobie 20:27, 30 August 2007 (UTC)

My God, I can't believe it, an image of the person in the article! I don't even remember why I wandered over here to this article (fixing vandalism I think) but it's fascinated me as a saga of overeager deleters ever since. Larry Dunn 19:41, 30 October 2007 (UTC)

The website for Champion Windows (http://www.championwindow.com) has her on the home page; I think that could be the source for the citation. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 65.27.178.171 (talk) 02:55, 20 June 2008 (UTC)

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