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Hi, can you please explain this revert? I have to say that I agree with the anon -- death squads can be mentioned elsewhere provided that there is a reliable source, but why is it included in the "Natural resources" section? Khoikhoi 21:54, 1 September 2008 (UTC)
-- I reverted to compare. The troll's message is eliminated Ingushetia (talk) Ingushetia
- Oh ok. I see what you mean. Thanks. Khoikhoi 22:17, 1 September 2008 (UTC)
proto-Ingush
Hi,
As I mentioned elsewhere, there is no such thing as "Sino-Caucasian culture", and certainly not at such a recent date. Sorry, but we're really going to need a ref if you want to keep restoring that.
Also, there was no "proto-Ingush" or "proto-Nakh" migration from the fertile crescent. The Science article you're using as a ref refers to Dagestanian / Northeast Caucasian as a whole. That is, the people were proto-Dagestanian / proto-NEC (choose the term you prefer), not "proto-Ingush" or "proto-Nakh". They were also linguistic ancestors—we don't know to what extent they were biological ancestors. For instance, the Ingush and Chechen are not related genetically despite speaking practically the same language. Somewhere along the line there's been language shift, though I forget if it was the Chechen or the Ingush who shifted. (Similar thing happened in Azerbaijan: the Azeris are ethnic Armenians who shifted to Turkish.) kwami (talk) 18:49, 5 October 2008 (UTC)
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Thank you for the link, the book looks very interesting and I'll read it. However it's not certain that ancient Maghas was in Ingushetia. Here's what is written in the article by Shnirelman also:
| “ | The location of the city was suggested by N. Kodzoev from the Ingush State Museum of Regional Studies. He referred to allegedly unquestionable archaeological data, which enriched an old dispute with political flavor, for there was still a disagreement among various archaeological schools about the location of historical Maghas.
Initially, one of the most knowledgeable North Caucasian archaeologists, V.A. Kuznetsov identified Maghas with the fortified site of Alkhan-Kala, situated in lowland Chechnia at the confluence of the Assa and Sunzha rivers 17-18 kilometers west of Grozny. Later on, he changed his mind and identified Maghas with the Nizhne-Arkhyz fortified site in Karachai. A few years later, he recognized that all such attempts had failed, and called for new investigations of the issue. At the same time, the Grozny-based archaeologist V.B. Vinogradov and his students, who carried out their studies in Checheno-Ingushetia, continued to identify Maghas with Alkhan-Kala |
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So the location of Magas is far from certain. As you know many sources identify Alans as Ossetians' ancestors (, ) so it wouldn't be right to simply write that Ingush were known as Alans. We have to explain who and when called them this way and provide sources. Regards, Alæxis¿question? 05:54, 6 October 2008 (UTC)
Hi
Just a heads up, but please do not revert the article as you could be in danger of violating the three-revert rule, which states that no one can revert an article more than 3 times in 24 hours. Khoikhoi 06:33, 6 October 2008 (UTC)