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Please note: RfA thankspam and mass-mailed messages are not appreciated. I also do not need automated "your DYK has been reviewed and there are issues" messages; I keep a close eye on the DYK page when I have something up there.

Archives

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AGF

Yeah, sure. It's frustrating talking to editors who can't take a breather to consider what is said, but he has caught some real doozies. --01:38, 2 January 2009 (UTC)

Re:Awards

Uh, I thought the page was going to look like National Hockey League awards or National Basketball Association awards. Looks too convoluted for a format like List of Nobel Laureates to work. — sephiroth bcr 23:04, 2 January 2009 (UTC)

Humour

Andy (talk) has smiled at you! Smiles promote WikiLove and hopefully this one has made your day better. Spread the WikiLove by smiling at someone else, whether it be someone you have had disagreements with in the past or a good friend, Go on smile! Cheers, and Happy editing!=)
Smile at others by adding {{subst:Smile}} to their talk page with a friendly message.

I loved your comment on the IP's vote here: . It is the reason I gave you this smile! It made me laugh! Cheers and happy editing! Andy (talk) 00:32, 3 January 2009 (UTC)

"Honourary"

Actually, you're wrong about that. "Honorary" is spelt without a U even in Commonwealth spelling. Check out Oxford if you like. Kelisi (talk) 03:54, 3 January 2009 (UTC)

Indeed. You may now wish to correct all your "corrections". --John (talk) 04:05, 3 January 2009 (UTC)

Holy shishkebabs, Ironholds!!! I was only commenting about a change you made to one article, but John's right. You have your work cut out for you, and might I suggest that you henceforth desist from "correcting" spelling? Right, get on with it. Kelisi (talk) 11:49, 3 January 2009 (UTC)

Done. Might I suggest you henceforth use a less order-y tone of voice? Ironholds (talk) 13:20, 3 January 2009 (UTC)

Was it the "holy shishkebabs" bit that came across as bossy? Kelisi (talk) 15:01, 3 January 2009 (UTC)

No, it would be the 'right, get on with it'. 'holy shishekebabs' was more 'wow, that user really likes his turkish meat'. Ironholds (talk) 17:28, 3 January 2009 (UTC)

Thanks for correcting yourself. That was an honorable thing to do. --John (talk) 18:07, 3 January 2009 (UTC)

No problem; apologies for wrongly accusing you (and, apparently, not speaking my own language, heh). Ironholds (talk) 18:31, 3 January 2009 (UTC)

Hello!

Hello! I just noticed that my page regarding Pirates Online was deleted and read the discussion coming from it. I'm totally fine with the deletion and just wanted to clear this up with all users who were nominating it, so maybe if you could spread the word around! First: I didn't know you couldn't have your own personal pages with information, because I had seen other users with the same sorts of things on their personal pages (e.g. Brethren Court, etc.). Second: I wasn't aiming on threatening vandalism tags with everyone – there was a specific person, whose IP and various accounts (accused of sockpuppetry) had been personally harassing me and it was agreed between myself and a few administrators that the more he put my mainpage/talk pages, etc. up for speedy deletion, the more vandalism tags he would be given. Hence, I had posted a notice, specifically for him. I'm sure I should've been more clear about that. That is all, and thanks so much for telling me what I should've been doing, I didn't know I couldn't have my personal page on that. Regards, BlackPearl14 21:01, 3 January 2009 (UTC)

No problem! Have a look around WP:USERPAGE. If you find you need any policy advice or editing help, give me a poke. Ironholds (talk) 21:36, 3 January 2009 (UTC)

Thanks

Got it. --KP Botany (talk) 23:31, 4 January 2009 (UTC)

re

Ok. If you say so! Mario1987 21:49, 5 January 2009 (UTC)

anything wrong?

On Jyoti_Bhatt I found an other tag which looks unjustified - am I wrong? Pingu (talk) 23:07, 5 January 2009 (UTC)

No, but he was. The language in that article needs to be toned down, by the way. Ironholds (talk) 02:11, 6 January 2009 (UTC)

I will see what I can do. I need some help from the friend who actually researched the material and will tone it down as soon as possible Pingu (talk) 06:50, 6 January 2009 (UTC)

Thanks for "nonsense" clarification

Thanks for your note on what does and doesn't constitute nonsense. I'm still learning and appreciate your help in pointing this out.Astral highway (talk) 16:09, 7 January 2009 (UTC)

Twinkle recommendation

Thanks for this, too. I will install it right away. That's a great help. It is good to be part of a community where people want to share this sort of enabling knowledge!

Just to skip back to the db-test tag, it's slightly thrown me because in some cases, the page creator is clearly out to cause nuisance by wasting time, at the very least, and it's almost as if a Misplaced Pages page is being used like a social networking page in these cases. But I do understand if it's just the case that this is the nearest tag description that will deal with such instances. I take it that it's something like this going on?Astral highway (talk) 16:28, 7 January 2009 (UTC)

Presentation (GMTV)

Let me finish this article first. Thank you. This is Drew (talk) 17:46, 7 January 2009 (UTC)

Next time I will. However if you look at my contributions you'll see that I don't just create pages and not add content.This is Drew (talk) 17:49, 7 January 2009 (UTC)

List of railway pioneers

You have a point but deleting the entire article is surely over the top. There are other options:

1. We take out the 'outstanding contribution' statement and replace it with other words. 2. We define what counts as 'outstanding' e.g. first national railway, inventor of a locomotive type. 3. We extract the list from outside sources e.g. if it's in an extant list of important railway people we cite that.

At least let's have a debate. And let's not throw away the baby with the bathwater. Bermicourt (talk) 18:06, 7 January 2009 (UTC)

Recent RFA closure

Hi Ironholds,

I saw a recent RFA closure where you opposed the candidate before declaring their RFA WP:SNOW, please note that it is considered improper (at best) for someone to vote and then to close an RFA for any circumstance. Please keep this in mind for future reference.   «l| Ψrometheăn ™|l»  (talk) 18:09, 7 January 2009 (UTC)

Indeed; my apologies over that. I worked/found out it was a COI after the closure (one of those 'duh' moments). 'it would have gone anyway' doesn't hold water as an argument (thankfully) so I can't really justify myself except to say it won't happen again. But hey, at least I closed it properly this time :P. Ironholds (talk) 18:11, 7 January 2009 (UTC)

That's Ok, I myself made the exact same mistake on my first NOTNOW closure and a 'crat noticed ><. So yeah this is just a friendly notice from one user to another :)   «l| Ψrometheăn ™|l»  (talk) 18:23, 7 January 2009 (UTC)

deletion of article on LOC

I have removed the tag from my page Look_out_circular, which you proposed for deletion. I'm leaving this message here to notify you about it. If you still think the article should be deleted, please don't add the template back to the article. Instead, feel free to list it at Misplaced Pages:Articles for deletion. Thanks!

Hi, I once got stuck at airport when i found that they have an LOC for a person with similar name( of course all identification parameters were different).I was curious to know what LOC is, and wikipedia is my first choice to find information. I believe this information will be very useful to international travelers.

pradeep (talk) 17:50, 9 January 2009 (UTC)

Lazy-man sandwiches

No worries. I realized my mistake on the speedy deletion tag as soon as I clicked it on the menu. I was working to backtrack when you beat me to it. Thanks. Monkey Bounce (talk) 06:32, 10 January 2009 (UTC)

Hoax

A Lazy-man sandwich is not a hoax. I just ate one, and it is kind of a local thing that came up recently. Just because you don't know about it, doesn't mean it isn't real. This is an avenue for other people to learn about things outside of their experiences and regions. I would invite you to try one if you have not already. Mrmattman (talk) 06:35, 10 January 2009 (UTC)

(Sorry about that. This was trolling and I didn't think you'd want it to stay. Just trying to help.) --PMDrive1061 (talk) 06:57, 10 January 2009 (UTC)

He'd put that same sort of feigned indignation on my page as well. I'm all for assuming good faith on a possible CSD, but this guy was just pushing it too far IMO. His insults on his talk page sure didn't help his cause.  :) Bless you for assuming good faith better than I in the face of this. --PMDrive1061 (talk) 07:03, 10 January 2009 (UTC)

The actions just seemed like they were vandalism-only by some bored student. He didn't strike me as someone here to contribute meaningfully. I'll reduce the block and advise him to contribute positively when he returns. --PMDrive1061 (talk) 07:07, 10 January 2009 (UTC)

No, not at all. I have a screwdriver as well as a hammer. --PMDrive1061 (talk) 07:07, 10 January 2009 (UTC)

All set. Thanks for being the cooler head. --PMDrive1061 (talk) 07:11, 10 January 2009 (UTC)

Man, do I know THAT feeling. I appreciate your pointing out my error and believe me, if I screw up, I'll set it straight the moment someone points out the mistake, that is, if I haven't already caught it. --PMDrive1061 (talk) 07:17, 10 January 2009 (UTC)

Thanks. This site needs more users like you. "Hooboy" sums it up pretty well; one of my sidelines involves reviewing raw video and the corresponding time code punch-in and punch-out points for a TV show. Makes things easier for the editor...and I think I put more time in over here where I don't get paid! Anyway, gotta run, but thanks again for getting me back on the straight an narrow. --PMDrive1061 (talk) 07:28, 10 January 2009 (UTC)

The 25 DYK Medal

		The 25 DYK Medal
		Thank you for your multiple contributions to DYK. Your most recent DYK, Curtis Keeble, is a great contribution (as are your others) which adds encyclopedic value to the project. Thank you for creating this article and thank you for continuing to contribute to the project in this capacity. Cirt (talk) 04:50, 11 January 2009 (UTC)

Amanda Balon

Is there a reason why you nominated Amanda Balonfor speedy deletion? I see nothing wrong with the article except its lack of citations. Tweedle20 (talk) 20:31, 13 January 2009 (UTC)Tweedle20

Thank-You

Thank you for telling me. I thought I had put she was in the national tour of Annie, but I guess not. --Tweedle20 (talk) 20:45, 13 January 2009 (UTC)

Apologies

Sorry for missing you this evening. I returned to my keyboard 8 minutes after you logged out. My e-mail is always open if you need anything old chap. --Narson ~ Talk • 22:58, 13 January 2009 (UTC)

Epistemia is up!

Check out http://epistemia.org/. Cheers! – Thomas H. Larsen 00:30, 16 January 2009 (UTC)

AfD nomination of Esenthel Engine

An article that you have been involved in editing, Esenthel Engine, has been listed for deletion. If you are interested in the deletion discussion, please participate by adding your comments at Misplaced Pages:Articles for deletion/Esenthel Engine. Thank you. I noticed that you proposed it for deletion per WP:PROD, and I probably should have seen that before than requesting for speedy deletion (G11), but in any case I have nominated for AFD and would like to request your input on the discussion. Thank you, MuZemike 06:19, 16 January 2009 (UTC)

DYK for Kenneth Walton (pathologist)

On January 17, 2009, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Kenneth Walton (pathologist), which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

Dravecky (talk) 11:41, 17 January 2009 (UTC)

Meetup

For your interest Misplaced Pages:Meetup/Birmingham_3. Majorly talk 19:22, 17 January 2009 (UTC)

User:Inclusionist

Do you know what's up with this user? He has been going to several AfD discussions (including the Ba'ath one, where you've already responded to him) posting some userspace template that he created in the userspace of his own indefblocked sock puppet. As far as I can tell, he's not reading the comments at AfD, but just going around pasting his "deletion is a last resort" template in a very POINTy way. Do you know anything about this user's history or anything? Politizer /_contribs 21:17, 17 January 2009 (UTC)

Straw poll

Ironholds, are you currently in favor of no straw poll, or a straw poll with 2 options, 3 options (RFDA only for future admins), or more? (Watchlisting) - Dan Dank55 (send/receive) 03:40, 18 January 2009 (UTC)

Straw poll with two options. The third would cause too many issues, creating a two-tier system of administrators. Arguing that they were not "elected" under the proposed system and therefore should not be bound by it is ridiculous; if I do not comment on a proposed notability guideline it does not mean my articles are exempt from it. Ironholds (talk) 03:45, 18 January 2009 (UTC)

Okay thanks, I'm asking around; I don't want to get blamed for screwing up the straw poll :) - Dan Dank55 (send/receive) 03:49, 18 January 2009 (UTC)

No problem; drop me a link once it is up. Ironholds (talk) 03:50, 18 January 2009 (UTC)

Will do. - Dan Dank55 (send/receive) 03:59, 18 January 2009 (UTC)

Notes

Hello Ironholds, have you seen this: OSCOLA? If you're writing English legal articles, I'd much appreciate it if you could standardise your work, so we're all being consistent. Also, is it necessary to cite McKendrick for the George Mitchell case? Well done on the reworking of the Lord Denning article! Wikidea 23:53, 18 January 2009 (UTC)

Concentrate on the exam, not Misplaced Pages!! Talk to you later. :) Wikidea 11:44, 19 January 2009 (UTC)

Remember, "judgment" and not "judgement" and Stilk v Myrick rather than Stilk "v." Myrick. I'd be happy to see you write an article on the history of English contract law, but that might be a bit complicated. JH Baker's books might help. Wikidea 17:39, 20 January 2009 (UTC)

Also, feel free to use my case template. It's good if we all keep a consistent format! (You only need to delete one or another category). Wikidea 20:30, 20 January 2009 (UTC)

It's "judgement"! Tried Bailii? Wikidea 11:11, 21 January 2009 (UTC)

DYK for Norman Denning

On January 19, 2009, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Norman Denning, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

Dravecky (talk) 06:51, 19 January 2009 (UTC)

Tamil National Party

Hi there! Unless you are bot I would think that you should have waited a little bit longer than less than a min after the article creation. Wiki San Roze 17:50, 20 January 2009 (UTC)

Can you please explain on what made you think that this was a candidate for speedy delition? Cheers Wiki San Roze 18:07, 20 January 2009 (UTC)

If you look at the article history you will see that you tagged it the same min it was created. Even if I didn't have any information, on wiki we check for notability by simple google search. You obviously did not do that. Or did you? Wiki San Roze 18:28, 20 January 2009 (UTC)

I don't see anything threatening in my messages. Yes as far as the AFD discussions I have been part of I have seen that a simple google search is the first step. Asking you to do a google search is not patronising as I can see. I think you are taking this discussion in a different direction rather than accepting to the fact that you made a mistake. If you think am wrong, ask people on here. Google search is not a fool proof method of checking notability, but it is the first step towards it. Cheers Wiki San Roze 18:39, 20 January 2009 (UTC)

My point was, for checking notability of a subject in question, google search is the first step. If you think otherwise you are free to ask people at AFD talk. FYI there is an on-going discussion on a similar subject. Assuming that you are acting in good faith (I know I am) you might want to go have a look at that. The point is, "bad state" /= "not notable". Even if the article was left in one sentence, you might want to add {{expand}} or {{unreferenced}} tag rather than nominate for deletion. This is why we have those tags in the first place. You might want to calm a bit down too. I'm the one who was tagged and got to be red-hot, to the contrary you seem to be angry. Anyways, having made my point on google search, I will get back to my work on wiki. Ciao Wiki San Roze 18:52, 20 January 2009 (UTC)

As I said earlier, this discussion is taking an unwanted turn. To quote you Either phrase it civilly and stop treating me like a five year old or take your message somewhere else. Now, is this what we hear from a person who is not angry? I would leave this here, right now, unless you want to take this further. Once again, the whole point of me messaging you on your talk page is, check notablity through google before you do anything. If unsure add tags. You are an experienced editor yourself. I'm sure you know about these tags. Cheers Wiki San Roze 19:02, 20 January 2009 (UTC)

Context

Two unlinked sentence, with typos, are not enough to establish context. Lots42 (talk) 07:12, 21 January 2009 (UTC)

And there you go. Adding a link -helps-. Wouldn't have stopped me from adding the tag but it helps. Lots42 (talk) 07:15, 21 January 2009 (UTC)

I'm not sure what you want me to say. We disagree, I didn't revert your changes. Lots42 (talk) 12:09, 21 January 2009 (UTC)

I can't believe you hate the Power Rangers

You inhuman monster. --Closedmouth (talk) 10:01, 21 January 2009 (UTC)

I will never get tired of those reactions. Permanent fixture. --Closedmouth (talk) 10:09, 21 January 2009 (UTC)

I dare not think of such things. --Closedmouth (talk) 10:15, 21 January 2009 (UTC)

I was thinking more along the lines of "What the hell is wrong with my eyes?" but I'm sure he's seen it already. --Closedmouth (talk) 10:23, 21 January 2009 (UTC)

Notice

"See also" in Stilk v Myrick

It's generally considered completely redundant to link under "see also" something that was already linked in the article. That section is intended for articles of a much more indirect relationship to the article at hand, so if it's already linked in the article, it's fairly pointless to add it as a "see also" link below. Circeus (talk) 02:13, 22 January 2009 (UTC)

WP:UAA

Hey, thanks for being so vigilant in reporting suspected username violations, however two of your recent reports do not appear to be violations. Please read our username policy and also the header at WP:UAA. Usernames should only be considered for immediate blocking under a small set of problems; that is they are either overtly profane or offensive, or they are promiting a business. Other less serious violations should be discussed with the user in question, and then possibly brought up for discussion at WP:RFCN. Again, thanks for your help, but please try to be sure the username is really awful before reporting to WP:UAA. Toodles. --Jayron32.talk.contribs 02:54, 22 January 2009 (UTC)

AIV / attack accounts

See Misplaced Pages:Administrators'_noticeboard/Incidents#Blocked_user_creating_multiple_attack_accounts. Bencherlite 12:44, 22 January 2009 (UTC)

Hello

Thank you for your opinion on Misplaced Pages:Requests for adminship/Mixwell. I have decided that it's too early for it. I closed it by WP:Snow. Thanks! --Mixwell! 03:24, 23 January 2009 (UTC)

Justification (sic)

Interestingly I made the point to the reviewing admin that the Theology guys edits were vandalism (per your edit summary and was told that they weren't. Either way, thanks for looking at the article. --Snowded TALK 11:35, 23 January 2009 (UTC)

Don't Worry, Be Happy

Hi there, I noticed that you referred to my recent edits to the article as vandalism in your summary. I'm not sure which part of WP:VAND you are referring to here. I removed some (probably unintentional) misinformation, which relates to a long-running internet hoax. This has been discussed at length on the talk page of the article. If you look at the article history, you'll see that this hoax is repeated on a regular basis, and I added the hidden comments to the article to address this. In future, please assume good faith on the part of other editors. Papa November (talk) 10:58, 24 January 2009 (UTC)

Frank Nesmith Parsons

Why did you remove the categories on this article? Brianyoumans (talk) 02:04, 25 January 2009 (UTC)

• Ah... I did think it looked weird. I will put them back in, correctly. Brianyoumans (talk) 02:07, 25 January 2009 (UTC)

Pywin32

I have removed the {{prod}} tag from Pywin32, which you proposed for deletion. I'm leaving this message here to notify you about it. If you still think the article should be deleted, please don't add the {{prod}} template back to the article. Instead, feel free to list it at Misplaced Pages:Articles for deletion. Thanks! Note: References were added. --Wallach2008 (talk) 16:12, 25 January 2009 (UTC)

DYK for Robert Leith-Macgregor

On January 25, 2009, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Robert Leith-Macgregor, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

Dravecky (talk) 17:30, 25 January 2009 (UTC)

Jaren Cerf article

Please give me a chance to compile a respectable amount of information for this article before submitting it for deletion. Jaren Cerf is a singer-songwriter who has given the vocals for songs in the trance genre. Her releases with Armin van Buuren have been very successful. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Dr.kwan (talk • contribs) 01:09, 26 January 2009 (UTC)

Circus

I was wondering if maybe you could step in at The Circus Starring: Britney Spears. This page has recently become a haven for vandals adding unsourced material or material from an unreliable source. I've been consistently reverting all day, but I almost feel like page protection would be best. Any and all suggestions of what to do would be greatly appreciated. Thanks and Cheers!--EmperorofPeopleEverywhere (talk) 04:39, 26 January 2009 (UTC)

Oh! I had no idea you only had rollback. I was under the assumption that you were an admin. But thanks for the heads up. And as always, CHEERS!!--EmperorofPeopleEverywhere (talk) 04:46, 26 January 2009 (UTC)

DYK for Leonard Goodwin

On January 26, 2009, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Leonard Goodwin, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

Gatoclass 05:11, 26 January 2009 (UTC)

DYK for Peter Lewis (British Army officer)

On January 26, 2009, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Peter Lewis (British Army officer), which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

Dravecky (talk) 22:41, 26 January 2009 (UTC)

David Livingstone Primary

This was marked for deletion; please see the comments on the talk page for that page - hopefully it explains what has happened; someone has basically moved the link!! Ianguy (talk) 09:45, 27 January 2009 (UTC)

Misplaced Pages:Meetup/London 18

The Victoria and Albert Museum Misplaced Pages Loves Art event is February 1 (this Sunday), -not- February 8. Thanks!--Pharos (talk) 02:48, 28 January 2009 (UTC)

Sorry, I can't come because I'm a New Yorker, and will be organizing our 'Misplaced Pages Loves Art' events here :) I just noticed the error there. But I know it is at 1 PM. Here are some decent links: flickr, upcoming, facebook. Have fun!--Pharos (talk) 03:01, 28 January 2009 (UTC)

Christopher Marshall (doctor)

Nice addition! -- Samir 06:47, 28 January 2009 (UTC)

Harold Hopkins

Hi I have just noticed your revision and was wondering what had provoked the comment 'what the deuce' about the previous version and also why you feel the new layout is better. Thanks 18:00, 28 January 2009 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Sonny Day (talk • contribs)

The answer to both questions is 'because there was a 20-line gap between the top of the page and the text'. The infobox should run alongside the text, not on top of it. Ironholds (talk) 18:08, 28 January 2009 (UTC)

Hi. Thank-you for your prompt reply. I can see from other biography sites that your layout is the norm for Wiki and I will therefore conform. However I think it is illogical and certainly very clumsy and unaesthetic. The title tells you you have arrived at a certain article. The info box hopefully either confirms you have found the article you were seeking or gives you an idea of where you've ended up and therefore I would place this underneath the title - followed by the summary opening paragraph. Of course if you are familiar with the Wiki layout you might immediately look at the info box regardless of location - but even if you are, then this layout leaves the eye/mind wandering around the top of the page in a most unsatisfactory fashion. The ugliness and discordance of the usual position of the 'contents box' adds further to this visual confusion - frequently leaving a gaping white-space (often of twelve lines or more) bang in the middle of the opening page. As presumably space costs nothing on Wiki and vertical scrolling is acceptable and familiar to most people then I personally cannot see the benefit of the Wiki layout - quite the contrary. My original layout had the info-box at the top (actually I wanted it on the left) - followed by the definitive opening paragraph, both visible immediately on even a small laptop screen. This provided the casual visitor with a simple, direct, uncluttered, aesthetically balanced and logical opening page. The contents box should, I believe follow underneath - and below that the main body of the article. Whilst wasting paper is criminal, one luxury of online publishing is using layout with spaces to promote clarity. I am very interested to know why I am wrong about this. Sonny Day (talk) 09:18, 29 January 2009 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Sonny Day (talk • contribs)

Barnstar

		The Barnstar of Good Humor
		For the various amusing conversations and discussions we have had on IRC and on-Wiki, I hereby award you this barnstar of good lawyering humour. :) — neuro 00:50, 30 January 2009 (UTC)

Australian Network of Environmental Defenders Offices

Hi, others and I have done more work on Australian Network of Environmental Defenders Offices and I don't believe it is a candidate for deletion any more. Another person did enough to consider it "saved". I have done more since. Cheers dinghy (talk) 05:11, 30 January 2009 (UTC)

Science One

Hi, I spent a lot of time contributing to Misplaced Pages, writing the page named "Science One". Keep in mind that it is not a university course. It is an honor program at the University of British Columbia. Please do not redirect it to UBC page please. Thank you. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Shiunlai (talk • contribs) 06:23, 30 January 2009 (UTC)

Wikimania Oxford bid

Some time ago you indicated your support of the Oxford 2010 Wikimania Bid, and it was recieved with much gratitude. I now ask if you could could help support our bid by contributing to the bid page that is located at: http://meta.wikimedia.org/Wikimania_2010/Bids/Oxford. Now is the critical period for work to continue on the bid as the official bidding period has now started and the jury has been formed.

I do not ask for huge swathes of time, just enough that with eveyrone working on this, it can be completed in time to the high standard required in a bid. For the bid page, an excellent source of information is the travel wiki article on the City of Oxford which is found at: http://wikitravel.org/en/Oxford. The chance of bringing Wikimania to the UK is the best so far and i expect the best chance for many years. With a fresh and stong UK chapter we have an amazing opportunity to put ourselves on the map. If you have any questions, please mail them to the Wikimedia UK mailing list, email me or post a message on my my talk page and i will answer as quickly as possible.

I look forward to working with you on the bid page. Many Thanks. Seddσn 15:10, 31 January 2009 (UTC)

Misplaced Pages:Meetup/Cambridge 2

Provisionally scheduled for February 28. Comments welcome, & seeing you there even better! Dsp13 (talk) 18:46, 31 January 2009 (UTC))

thank you

My RFA passed today at 150/48/6. I wanted to thank you for weighing in, and I wanted to let you know I appreciated all of the comments, advice, criticism, and seriously took it all to heart this past week. I'll do my absolute best to not let any of you down with the incredible trust given me today. rootology (C)(T) 07:44, 1 February 2009 (UTC)

RfA thanks

Thank you for the trust you placed in me by supporting my RfA (which passed and, apparently, I am now an admin!). I will do my best to continue to act in a way that is consistent with the policies of wikipedia as well with our common desire to build and perfect this repository of human knowledge; and can only hope that you never feel that your trust was misplaced. Thanks again! --Regent's Park (Rose Garden) 00:13, 3 February 2009 (UTC)

difficulty of desysopping

Thanks for your reply. I mean it. By the way, difficulty of desysopping is a whole separate issue. Personally, I'd like to see all elevated rights expire after a period of time, subject to reconfirmation. Something akin to recall but without the need to petition. For administrators, I'd probably put this at 1-3 years, with the clock not expiring while they are serving in a higher-level position that requires the admin bit. For 'crats I'd probably go with 1- or 2-year terms with a mandatory "break up the cabal" 30- to 90-day waiting period between expiration and re-running. We only need so many 'crats at a time. The same goes for checkusers, even though they are appointed not !elected. For arbcom, I would not allow anyone to serve more than 4 years in any 5-year period. davidwr/(talk)/(contribs)/(e-mail) 05:08, 5 February 2009 (UTC)

Note

Do you see the irony in your statement here? You have nominated PR's page for deletion because it has attacks, but in your nom, you are issuing personal attacks against him? It's never a good idea to respond to attacks with more attacks, which tends to just escalate the situation. So could you please try to review your own statements, and remove anything that might be considered uncivil? Keep comments focused on the articles, not the contributors. Thanks, --Elonka 16:36, 5 February 2009 (UTC)

Elonka has pointed out how to deal with the miniscule problems you believe you spotted - will you forgive me for twiddling my thumbs for a few more hours until I see the result of the much more important effort that I think you're planning to undertake? I find it shocking that really serious personal smears, based on total fabrications, have been given the green-light in this fashion. I've not protested before - it's good to have your backing. PR 09:37, 6 February 2009 (UTC)

(PR reformats, hope this is OK): Can I ask that you have User:PalestineRemembered/Saeb Erekat deleted. Users are not meant to keep 'laundry lists' on other users unless (and this is a rare exception) it is being/is about to be used in an RfC/ArbCom case, and even then it is borderline. Since the page in question has not been edited since October 2008 (and therefore obviously isn't being maintained for an imminent case) it is inappropriate, and I would appreciate it if you request that it be deleted or I will have to take it to AfD. Ironholds (talk) 18:42, 5 February 2009 (UTC)

I'm not pushing any kind of agenda; I'm not a fan of such things in 'anyone's userspace regardless of what their opinion is on whatever matter (I know you haven't accused me of having one, but I'd just like to clarify my stance is anti-dirty laundry in userspace rather than anti-zionist or anti-palestinian). Ironholds (talk) 09:42, 6 February 2009 (UTC)

The User:PalestineRemembered/Saeb Erekat is somewhat different, since it illustrates how people have sometimes exerted the most atrocious OWNERSHIP for long periods of time. I've worded it as carefully as possible, not selecting anyone for blame, but the evidence necessarily speaks for itself. But nothing in there is falsified, as is happening at this other page I've pointed you to. PR 10:02, 6 February 2009 (UTC)

It is very carefully worded, yes, but the page is structured in such a way that it is fairly obvious who is 'to blame'. A suspicious editor would say that you have structured it carefully precisely to avoid such accusations of dirty laundry while still getting the point across. It is similar to a comment I got a few days ago "I'm not saying you are a troll, I'm just saying if you look at the definition of troll some of your actions might come under that"; it is very careful to avoid a direct accusation or comment, but the accusation or comment is still there in a format that anyone can understand. Ironholds (talk) 10:05, 6 February 2009 (UTC)

I think there's a pachyderm in the room and the word "bizarre" is barely adequate to describe any discussion that doesn't mention Jumbo. On top of the OWNERSHIP I (perhaps correctly) thought people might be interested in, these UserPages are used to host the very most serious personal smears, based on what looks to me exactly like deliberate and complete invention. Do you have any sound advice for me? PR 11:55, 8 February 2009 (UTC)

Hughes Medal

Didn't manage to catch you on IRC last night - I'm about half way replacing the refs on this one. I'll do the rest tonight if you don't get to them first, I may do some this afternoon, but my school is hardblocked, so I won't post them. So that we get the maximum possible, if you work from the last one I replaced and go up in numbers, I will work from the end. Cheers, — neuro 08:11, 6 February 2009 (UTC)

Deadcats Deletion

Hi there, i'm a little puzzled why the Deadcats page was flagged for deletion? I was filling in information about one of Canada's pioneering Psychobilly bands. The Band has a 15 year history; has released cds in Canada, USA, Germany, UK, Japan; toured internationally, charted in college radio in numerous stations; is referenced numerous times within the pages of Misplaced Pages itself including a listing on the Psychobilly list, bands that the Deadcats have played with including the Necromantix, Tiger Army, the CreepShow etc. It was still a work in progress which i've read is allowed but had at least reached it's first stage for revision and additions. Can I have it re-instated please? Thank you. Kaptblood (talk) 09:29, 7 February 2009 (UTC)

Request for adminship... 3?

Hi Ironholds, it's now been over half a year since my previous request for the mop, and reviewing that RfA reveals that you were one of my opposers last time round. I was wondering if you'd like to comment on my current status in the Misplaced Pages community, and if you believe I would be ready to run for adminship again in future? Kind regards. Please respond wherever you feel it is most appropriate. Kind regards. —Cyclonenim (talk · contribs · email) 16:25, 8 February 2009 (UTC)

Thanks for your response :) —Cyclonenim (talk · contribs · email) 16:35, 8 February 2009 (UTC)

New articles

Thanks! :P I'll take a look at them over the next couple of days. Not too well-versed in mammals, but I'll try my best! :D Shrumster (talk) 09:19, 9 February 2009 (UTC)

Edward Blake

I'm fully aware of the Chiltern Hundreds being a British phenomenon, and that is why I mentioned that Blake was an MP for the Canadian Liberal Party, not the British one. While serving in British Commons I've never heard Blake referred to as a Liberal MP, he's always stated as being in the Irish Parliamentary Party or the Irish National Federation. If there is a reference that says otherwise, I'd be interested to see it.--Lairor (talk) 09:46, 9 February 2009 (UTC)

Well this article on the 1906 general election claims he was elected as a Nationalist and this New York Times article claims ditto for the 1895 elections. The Misplaced Pages page references an almanac I don't have access to. It doesn't all quite make sense, but, oh well. Thanks for the info.--Lairor (talk) 10:48, 9 February 2009 (UTC)

AN/I comment?

I'm sorry, but what do you mean by saying I plexicoed myself? Koalorka (talk) 19:00, 9 February 2009 (UTC)

It is a variant on "shot yourself in the foot" normally used around AN/ANI; in this case that by bringing the complaint you drew attention to your incivility. Ironholds (talk) 19:02, 9 February 2009 (UTC)

Right, but the AN/I proceeding was for copyright infringement, I don't see how I shot myself in the foot... That's not a very helpful attitude, and you didn't address the more serious issue of media piracy. Koalorka (talk) 19:12, 9 February 2009 (UTC)

Last time I checked it was your attitude I questioned. If you bring dirty laundry to AN you can't ask us to cherrypick what we look at; yes, the media piracy needed to be looked at, but that doesn't mean you shouldn't be warned for the way you dealt with that situation and others. "the ends justifies the means" and being prepared to overlook certain breaches because the other party is more wrong is not how Misplaced Pages works. As it happens I was just browsing through and had around ten seconds to spare; I decided that the incivility issue could be solved in that length of time, while the media copyright problem would have taken longer. Ironholds (talk) 19:55, 9 February 2009 (UTC)

That's reasonable, thanks for taking the time to respond. Koalorka (talk) 22:27, 9 February 2009 (UTC)

RE: Just wondering...

I'm afraid not, it's not anything personal to anyone involved in the meetups, but I really would prefer to have a degree of separation between my online and offline life. Secondly, it's a bit far for me to travel at the moment. Have a good time, though :) —Cyclonenim (talk · contribs · email) 22:08, 9 February 2009 (UTC)

Will do, but you could always just watchlist this to help me avoid canvassing concerns ;) —Cyclonenim (talk · contribs · email) 22:47, 9 February 2009 (UTC)

Haha, fair enough. I'll assume a literal, simple "*poke*" will suffice, then. Speak soon buddy. —Cyclonenim (talk · contribs · email) 22:54, 9 February 2009 (UTC)

Misplaced Pages:Canvassing

My notices conform to WP:CANVAS - neutral, short, information only, and to WikiProject talk pages, not user talk pages. 76.66.196.229 (talk) 06:28, 10 February 2009 (UTC)

Library

Hi Ironholds, I'm afraid my personal library wouldn't be all much use; I generally check books out of a nearby public library to edit. Nice idea though. Cheers, Opus33 (talk) 23:40, 10 February 2009 (UTC)

Hi Ironholds -- you didn't ask me but I'm a dreadful talk page stalker. Feel free to use anything on User:Antandrus/sources, which contains a lot of books I own. (This may prompt me to add more; those are only the most usual I grab off the shelves.) Excellent idea! Antandrus (talk) 23:42, 10 February 2009 (UTC)