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] go well. Bali ultimate (talk) 07:15, 21 February 2009 (UTC)
- Done. By the way, when linking to a page by URL (external link), use single brackets like this...
- ...not double brackets as used for a wikilink...
]- here's how it looks, as you know: WP:wikilink
- Cheers, Gwen Gale (talk) 08:22, 21 February 2009 (UTC)
- Thanks. Here's another. I think this is the format?
Best. Bali ultimate (talk) 16:29, 21 February 2009 (UTC)
- One more, I think (this one im 95% for certain on rather than 100%). ] Bali ultimate (talk) 16:47, 21 February 2009 (UTC)
- Extra bracket there :) Truth be told, if you would wlink to the user names themselves (User:Claude La Badarian and User:Ep1997), it would be easier. Even easier, wrap them in {{checkuser|username}}:
- Claude La Badarian (talk · tag · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log · CA · CheckUser(log) · investigate · cuwiki)
- Ep1997 (talk · tag · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log · CA · CheckUser(log) · investigate · cuwiki)
Thanks! Gwen Gale (talk) 19:19, 21 February 2009 (UTC)
I've blocked the first and one other, dunno about Ep1997 though. Gwen Gale (talk) 19:33, 21 February 2009 (UTC)
- I've modified both tags to reflect the block status of the sockpuppets.— Dædαlus 22:20, 22 February 2009 (UTC)
- And I've reverted my last edit, as the second sock has not yet been blocked.— Dædαlus 22:22, 22 February 2009 (UTC)
- Yeah, I do think we'd need to see a bit more from that one. Gwen Gale (talk) 22:25, 22 February 2009 (UTC)
- I also stumbled upon (and blocked) User:JonJericoe yesterday. Gwen Gale (talk) 22:28, 22 February 2009 (UTC)
- Fixed the template to reflect the block, and added it to the talk page as well.— Dædαlus 22:31, 22 February 2009 (UTC)
- Thanks for takin' care of those. Gwen Gale (talk) 22:35, 22 February 2009 (UTC)
- Fixed the template to reflect the block, and added it to the talk page as well.— Dædαlus 22:31, 22 February 2009 (UTC)
- I also stumbled upon (and blocked) User:JonJericoe yesterday. Gwen Gale (talk) 22:28, 22 February 2009 (UTC)
DFW tragedy (talk · tag · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log · CA · CheckUser(log) · investigate · cuwiki) This diff is the clincher, with its overwrought i want to be hunter thompson language. Bali ultimate (talk) 12:56, 23 February 2009 (UTC)
- Oy, don't get me started on Hunter Thompson/Jack Nicholson wannabee copycats :) Gwen Gale (talk) 13:01, 23 February 2009 (UTC)
- Oh yeah, erm, quack and so on, another sleeper by the bye. Gwen Gale (talk) 13:03, 23 February 2009 (UTC)
- CU got those and their little dog too (about 10 more). And here's a new one thanks and best. Bali ultimate (talk) 19:18, 23 February 2009 (UTC)
- Someone did warn me there would be many, many ducks. Gwen Gale (talk) 19:52, 23 February 2009 (UTC)
- he must be off his meds this week. BillDeanCarter_is_the_man_is_the_man (talk · tag · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log · CA · CheckUser(log) · investigate · cuwiki) Bali ultimate (talk) 22:15, 23 February 2009 (UTC)
- No such username (check spelling?) Gwen Gale (talk) 22:17, 23 February 2009 (UTC)
- Got it. BillDeanCarter is the man (talk · tag · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log · CA · CheckUser(log) · investigate · cuwiki) Gwen Gale (talk) 22:19, 23 February 2009 (UTC)
- he must be off his meds this week. BillDeanCarter_is_the_man_is_the_man (talk · tag · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log · CA · CheckUser(log) · investigate · cuwiki) Bali ultimate (talk) 22:15, 23 February 2009 (UTC)
- Someone did warn me there would be many, many ducks. Gwen Gale (talk) 19:52, 23 February 2009 (UTC)
- CU got those and their little dog too (about 10 more). And here's a new one thanks and best. Bali ultimate (talk) 19:18, 23 February 2009 (UTC)
Inveigle
Might I inveigle you to look at Fascism where there is a major attempt by "The Four Deuces" and "Spylab" to remove all material which does not fit their personal political views despite being fully sourced? This is ongoing, and may be related to other problems I am having with Mattnad and his possible sock, and Inclusionist/Ikip/prior socks (sigh). The style of wikilinking every single word is reminiscent of someone, to be sure. Merci! Collect (talk) 11:22, 23 February 2009 (UTC)
- Eek! These high profile humanities articles about politics are canny tough, given the sources themselves are often flawed and wholly good faith editors might not know how to give them fitting weight. If you can give me some diffs, tell me what you think is worrisome about each and let me know if you think there are socks about, I can likely help. Otherwise, there may not be much I can do. Cheers, Gwen Gale (talk) 11:59, 23 February 2009 (UTC)
- I know the feeling <g>. Try where fully sourced material is deleted, where he wikilinks every word he can find <g>, and more deletion. All in a sequence this morning. Yesterday deletion of sourced quote, and on 17 Feb to insist on using his own OR and SYN without the pretext of a cite for it <g>. And a bunch of stuff prior, of course. Lots of fun to be sure dealing with such. Again, thanks! Collect (talk) 12:17, 23 February 2009 (UTC)
- Ok, the first diff indeed shows a deletion of sourced content, which is mostly not allowed, or shouldn't be allowed, if the source in any way can be taken as reliable. Scattered, sourced PoVs are more than ok, they're helpful, the more the merrier. The second, wanton wikilinking, looks pointy to me. The third does not look to me like a deletion of content but rather, he's put a quote into the inline reference. As to the fourth diff, he likely shouldn't be removing those OR tags (moreover since it does look like he's spanning). Have you tried talking to him about it? Gwen Gale (talk) 12:26, 23 February 2009 (UTC)
- Does a cat like milk? <g> Sorry for one bad diff. If you look at Talk -- he even claims that the word "disagreement" is wrong <g>. which I found a bit outre. (no accent on this keyboard -- I had one person complain even <g>). So much for really discussing with him. Collect (talk) 12:32, 23 February 2009 (UTC)
- Heh, ayant parlé les deux en famille quand j'étais une petite gamine, je crois que c'est plus facile si on ne fait pas la mélange (sauf Franglais entre-copines ou quoi, mais c'est une autre histoire, vache! :) Anyway, only for starters, try finding a word other than disagreement for the text (like "there are sundry takes...") and let me know what happens. Gwen Gale (talk) 12:55, 23 February 2009 (UTC)
- I may try -- meanhile I added Art Buchwald's "Le Grande Thanksgiving" as a footnote for the Franglais article <g>. I trust you will enjoy it. Collect (talk) 13:08, 23 February 2009 (UTC)
- Yep, hardy eald Kilometres Deboutish, some foggy twinge tells me I've read that before. Buchwald spent time in Paris when he was young, I think in the late 40s, early 50s, a canny fit time to be an American in Paris, I've been told. Gwen Gale (talk) 13:14, 23 February 2009 (UTC)
- Originally written for the NY Herald Tribune in 1952 -- -- he stayed there until 1962. Collect (talk) 13:20, 23 February 2009 (UTC)
- They owned the International Herald Tribune in Paris for which he worked for awhile and which still lurks on newstands this side of the pond but I don't know anyone who reads it other than older American blokes who may only dimly grok it can be had for free on the web, not that it's a bargain at that price or anything. Gwen Gale (talk) 13:24, 23 February 2009 (UTC)
- Just noticed this since i'm watching your page. The next-to-last iteration of the IHT was great. It was jointly owned by the New York Times and the Washington Post, and in practice this mean the best of both papers with a smattering of the IHT's own reporting. A few years ago the New York Times bought out the Post, and now it's just an inferior version of the Times (I suspect those old americans are actually buying it for an intelligent reason; the NYT crossword. The English crosswords are very hard for us, and I suspect vice versa).Bali ultimate (talk) 15:19, 23 February 2009 (UTC)
- They owned the International Herald Tribune in Paris for which he worked for awhile and which still lurks on newstands this side of the pond but I don't know anyone who reads it other than older American blokes who may only dimly grok it can be had for free on the web, not that it's a bargain at that price or anything. Gwen Gale (talk) 13:24, 23 February 2009 (UTC)
- Originally written for the NY Herald Tribune in 1952 -- -- he stayed there until 1962. Collect (talk) 13:20, 23 February 2009 (UTC)
- Yep, hardy eald Kilometres Deboutish, some foggy twinge tells me I've read that before. Buchwald spent time in Paris when he was young, I think in the late 40s, early 50s, a canny fit time to be an American in Paris, I've been told. Gwen Gale (talk) 13:14, 23 February 2009 (UTC)
- I may try -- meanhile I added Art Buchwald's "Le Grande Thanksgiving" as a footnote for the Franglais article <g>. I trust you will enjoy it. Collect (talk) 13:08, 23 February 2009 (UTC)
- When I was little, I'd spread the IHT out on my lap and read like mad. As for crosswords, when I was into them, I did a few in the Times. I've heard that one's gone downhill lately...? Gwen Gale (talk) 15:59, 23 February 2009 (UTC)
- Could never do the London Times' one; too culturally specific (or rather, perhaps, I was too parochial). When i was younger and interested in crosswords clues like "number of teeth on Nobby Stiles upper jaw" were over my head). By the way, CU in case you're interested Bali ultimate (talk) 16:15, 23 February 2009 (UTC)
- Nobby? He
hadhe's got not a one! Everybody knows that! Saw it, BTW. Gwen Gale (talk) 16:18, 23 February 2009 (UTC) - Yes along the lines of "what color was George Washington's white horse?" But if you didn't know, pre-internet you weren't going to easily find out.Bali ultimate (talk) 16:21, 23 February 2009 (UTC)
- Looked at Nobby's article, oops, I thought he was dead! Wasn't GW's horse named Trigger? :) Gwen Gale (talk) 16:24, 23 February 2009 (UTC)
- Nobby? He
- Could never do the London Times' one; too culturally specific (or rather, perhaps, I was too parochial). When i was younger and interested in crosswords clues like "number of teeth on Nobby Stiles upper jaw" were over my head). By the way, CU in case you're interested Bali ultimate (talk) 16:15, 23 February 2009 (UTC)
You are now noted as a Heinlein fan. GW had a number of horses, but apparently "Old Nelson" was one. Trigger was Roy Rogers. Champion was Gene Autry and Topper was Hopalong Cassidy. I neer heard of Nobby Stiles. For two points, who was the best educated sidekick in old westerns? Collect (talk) 17:36, 23 February 2009 (UTC)
- I knew about trigger, I was only kiddin' :D ...My knowledge of Tom Mix is kinda strong (long, twisted tale as to why) but otherwise, I don't know much about old American westerns, <rant> other than that they've always bored me to tears, but maybe for the horses I guess, although, if I'm in the unwonted mood, I like big swaths of Once Upon a Time in the West and For a Few Dollars More but those are hardly American.</rant> Ok so, who was the best educated sidekick in old westerns? Oh! Oh! I forgot, I've always liked High Noon, but for when they "sling lead" towards the end :) Gwen Gale (talk) 18:52, 23 February 2009 (UTC)
- Gabby Hayes was well educated -- and retired until the crash of 1929 when he had to go back to work. Apparently a quite extraordinary man who gave Fred Rogers one of his first jobs. Are you following l'affaire Ikip at all? His page at User:Ikip/guests has some unusual and blunt advice (which is, IMHO, beyond the Pale) for acting on WP. Collect (talk) 19:11, 23 February 2009 (UTC)
- I knew about trigger, I was only kiddin' :D ...My knowledge of Tom Mix is kinda strong (long, twisted tale as to why) but otherwise, I don't know much about old American westerns, <rant> other than that they've always bored me to tears, but maybe for the horses I guess, although, if I'm in the unwonted mood, I like big swaths of Once Upon a Time in the West and For a Few Dollars More but those are hardly American.</rant> Ok so, who was the best educated sidekick in old westerns? Oh! Oh! I forgot, I've always liked High Noon, but for when they "sling lead" towards the end :) Gwen Gale (talk) 18:52, 23 February 2009 (UTC)
- Gabby Hayes, oh, yes, I've heard about him. Character actor. Took Roy's advice and bought a bit of Southern California real estate.
- I don't see any personal attacks on Ikip's bloggy sub-page. Although letting all those thoughts flap about on one's sleeve might seem a bit untowards, it looks to me like he's at about "level 3" or whatever of sorting out for himself how and why things happen here as they do. If he gets stuck on that take, he'll find unhappiness as an editor, but it looks to me as though his thoughts on the topic might grow. Gwen Gale (talk) 19:46, 23 February 2009 (UTC)
- You missed the bit about how and when to deliberately use a sock puppet? Considering he has been caught using one in the past, I would have thought he would avoid any hint of such. Collect (talk)
- I missed that and I didn't know he'd been caught socking. Truth be told, I skimmed because my eyes started glazin' over, but I didn't want to ask you for diffs. If you think there's a worry though and you have a few minutes, diffs'll help. Gwen Gale (talk) 20:19, 23 February 2009 (UTC)
- You missed the bit about how and when to deliberately use a sock puppet? Considering he has been caught using one in the past, I would have thought he would avoid any hint of such. Collect (talk)
- I don't see any personal attacks on Ikip's bloggy sub-page. Although letting all those thoughts flap about on one's sleeve might seem a bit untowards, it looks to me like he's at about "level 3" or whatever of sorting out for himself how and why things happen here as they do. If he gets stuck on that take, he'll find unhappiness as an editor, but it looks to me as though his thoughts on the topic might grow. Gwen Gale (talk) 19:46, 23 February 2009 (UTC)
MEGO? contains: Make controversial edits such as page deletions with socks accounts, but always make sure to never edit the page as an anon, and when using your anon account always use spell check to avoid detection (Firefox has the feature automatically).
Every few months the edit cache is dumped so there will be no IP evidence that you were a sock after a few months. A more elaborate scheme is to get an IP anonymizer and create several accounts, editing different articles in different themes that you are interested in (For example, have a politics account, a movie account, a favorite books account, your home city and/or state account). But make sure to follow How to become and admin which each different account. To throw off suspicion, make sure to talk to yourself on talk pages occasionally. After a couple of months, as those editors are elected by yourself to be admins, you are now free to build consensus on Misplaced Pages as you please.< !--As wikipedia becomes more established and main stream, organizations and people will do this tactic. I bet a million dollars several people and organizations already do-- > and some more rather WP-unfriendly material. Collect (talk) 21:30, 23 February 2009 (UTC)
- You know, I did see that and thought it was the same, mossy old, "my un-stained eyes have been opened and woe is me in my anger" parody of socking I've seen on a dozen user pages before. Given you say he's been caught socking, which I didn't know, do you truly think he's writing a How to Chavel Misplaced Pages in 10 E-Z Steps thingy? Or rather, is he spilling his untowards deeds for the world to hear, that he might soar forth in renewed worthiness? Or is he only being lame? Gwen Gale (talk) 21:59, 23 February 2009 (UTC)
- I did wonder a bit -- he is one of the only people who asked to be blocked indefinitely I can think of -- he is definitely "interesting" if you look at his record. Right now the canvassing he has done/is doing seems to be occupying his time, but I wonder just how long things will go before some sort of explosion. Collect (talk) 22:19, 23 February 2009 (UTC)
- See youtube.com/watch?v=O4KMk6T5mQU Gwen Gale (talk) 23:45, 23 February 2009 (UTC)
- I did wonder a bit -- he is one of the only people who asked to be blocked indefinitely I can think of -- he is definitely "interesting" if you look at his record. Right now the canvassing he has done/is doing seems to be occupying his time, but I wonder just how long things will go before some sort of explosion. Collect (talk) 22:19, 23 February 2009 (UTC)
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Sorry
Sorry to have got you involved in the whole Thunderbird/Fgnaton mess ... (talk→ Bwilkins / BMW ←track) 23:17, 23 February 2009 (UTC)
- Don't forget the other user, but no worries, that's what I'm here for. As often happens in those tangles, all "sides" were doing stuff maybe they shouldn't have been doing. Gwen Gale (talk) 23:41, 23 February 2009 (UTC)
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Hello, you are an uninvolved administrator and have been recommended to me by User:Bwilkins per this discussion. Please read over it and see what you could do to reopen the AfD and have it closed in the traditional manner. Thank you. Themfromspace (talk) 21:25, 24 February 2009 (UTC)
- Please do look at my explanation on my talk, and if you have questions let me know. I did recommend that Themfromspace contact you as they're reasonably non-confrontational :-) (talk→ Bwilkins / BMW ←track) 21:30, 24 February 2009 (UTC)
- Given I think, taken altogether, each keep comment tends to have more sway than each one for delete, I don't think there's any way this AfD could have closed as a delete. Either a no-consensus or a keep close would have been ok, with the sundry takes of editors, this kind of thing can overlap. If this had been closed by an admin I'd say forget it or if you must, take it to WP:DRV, where the outcome would very likely be the same. Since it's a non-admin close there's a wee bit more wiggle room on this one for wondering by some editors, maybe. I think you two might talk it over once more, as to whether it might be a keep or an NC but it ran for 5 days and it's not a delete. Gwen Gale (talk) 22:05, 24 February 2009 (UTC)
- Well, I thought they were non-confrontational. Guess I'd better go through RfA soon. LOL. Thanks for your input again (you must hate me by now) (talk→ Bwilkins / BMW ←track) 23:52, 24 February 2009 (UTC)
- Now and then, someone unhappy about a close may try to find a weakness to wedge upon. Hopefully, sooner or later, they read WP:POINT. Gwen Gale (talk) 16:56, 25 February 2009 (UTC)
- Well, I thought they were non-confrontational. Guess I'd better go through RfA soon. LOL. Thanks for your input again (you must hate me by now) (talk→ Bwilkins / BMW ←track) 23:52, 24 February 2009 (UTC)
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A. Hyatt Mayor
This article was flagged for notability. I believe I've added enough sources etc to justify; could you take a look and, if you agree, remove the flag? I can't since I created the article. If you think it still needs work, please let me know. Thanks! --Bookgrrl /lookee here 03:46, 25 February 2009 (UTC)
- Three reliable-looking sources cited, one's the NYT, text asserts notable career in his field, could use more sources but tag removed. Cheers, Gwen Gale (talk) 03:50, 25 February 2009 (UTC)
Harassment by Thunderbird2
Regarding your earlier warnings to Thunderbird2 about claiming harassment. I made some comments about Thunderbird2's use of harassment. I started with a general comment which got removed without reply . I then made a more forceful warning about removing the uncivil content which again got removed without comment. Looking at the page it contains things like declined reasons for Thunderbird2's unblock, comments by the blocking admin and miscellaneous comments that are not harassment. It seems to be the case Thunderbird2 refuses to remove the claimed harassment page User talk:Thunderbird2/Harassment by Fnagaton and Greg L despite its URL misrepresenting others which I think is WP:UNCIVIL and WP:NPA. This behaviour has the effect of continuing to make claims of harassment for content that is not harassment which is against your earlier warnings. What to do? I think miscellany for deletion is OK, what about you? WorkingBeaver (talk) 23:29, 25 February 2009 (UTC)
- Forget it and forget T-bird. If you don't want to forget, try MfD. Gwen Gale (talk) 23:42, 25 February 2009 (UTC)