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Articles Related To The Price is Right

You've been adding a lot of great stuff and reorganizing things on these articles--thanks for your help! Sottolacqua (talk) 22:40, 27 September 2008 (UTC)

You're very welcome. Amazing how little there is on some pages, especially regarding significant changes and the nighttime shows. :-) Daniel Benfield (talk) 22:13, 20 January 2009 (UTC)

Manual Of Style

Thanks for your edits to Super Jeopardy! You might want to peruse WP:MOS and its sub-articles before making capitalization changes to section headers. Also, it's important to keep full dates in infoboxes, as the rendering of the date information as an unambiguous range may be arbitrary (i.e. may be something that changes in the future). I encourage you to read the documentation on infobox templates. Cheers, Robert K S (talk) 17:19, 11 November 2008 (UTC)

Re:your edits to Merv Griffin's Crosswords, you might want to check out WP:REFPUNC. Ref tags are placed immediately after punctuation (not, for example, before a comma), with no space in between. Robert K S (talk) 20:25, 14 November 2008 (UTC)

Re: Your edits to Jeopardy!--you are still improperly capitalizing words in section headers. Please refer specifically to the fourth bullet point at Misplaced Pages:MOSHEAD#Article_titles.2C_headings.2C_and_sections, which reads "capital letters are used only where implied by normal capitalization rules (Funding of UNESCO projects, not Funding of UNESCO Projects)." Robert K S (talk) 19:55, 30 December 2008 (UTC)

Sorry. Tend to think that most every word should be capitalized since it's a header. Daniel Benfield (talk) 20:00, 26 January 2009 (UTC)

"Primetime"

"Primetime" is not a compound word. "primetime" disambiguation page and "prime time" definition. Sottolacqua (talk) 17:31, 28 December 2008 (UTC)

Sorry. Tend to think so when you've got a TV Guide next to you a lot. Daniel Benfield (talk) 22:13, 20 January 2009 (UTC)

December 2008

Please remember to mark your edits as minor if (and only if) they genuinely are minor edits (see Help:Minor edit). Marking a major change as a minor one is considered poor etiquette. The rule of thumb is that only an edit that consists solely of spelling corrections, formatting changes, or rearranging of text without modifying content should be flagged as a 'minor edit.' Thank you.

My apologies. I tend to forget checking off that box whenever it is minor. Daniel Benfield (talk) 20:01, 26 January 2009 (UTC)

Nighttime Price is Right

I think we need to be consistent when referring to separate runs of the show. Lumping two dates together when the show had a break in its run from 1980 to 1985 is not good practice. Sure, it's mentioned later in the article, but if it's right in one place, it needs to be right in all cases, not a few. Nicholasm79 (talk) 04:13, 18 January 2009 (UTC)

Yes, however an infobox is supposed to show the length of the run from original beginning to final end (see What's My Line?, for example). Episode numbers and show runs are not lumped in if one or two versions have their own article (such as The New Price Is Right (1994)). Daniel Benfield (talk) 22:13, 20 January 2009 (UTC)

I disagree. That field has always been fishy. It's better to leave it out than confuse the reader with bad information. Nicholasm79 (talk) 23:24, 20 January 2009 (UTC)

...Misinformation? "Fishy"? I'm sorry, sir, but I disagree. The run length needs to be in there, and there's plenty of things that cause the reader to go "Okay, they're just telling me the run, and I can see here that it's two separate runs - and they're lumping it together to show me that this is how long the shows have run altogether under this title." Daniel Benfield (talk) 23:27, 20 January 2009 (UTC)

You're assuming that everyone knows what we know. That's an assumption you can't make. Not everyone is "in the know" as fans are. Furthermore, if one just read the dates "September 4, 1972 - September whatever 1986", they're going to think that's ONE start date and ONE end date. You can't assume everyone will think the way you do. I refuse to edit the article anymore. Nicholasm79 (talk) 23:31, 20 January 2009 (UTC)

...Sorry. :-( Truly, I am. I placed it back in like how you had it to begin with. The first airdates for each version are in the "first_aired" portion while the last airdates are in the "last_aired" portion. I was going to make a counter that it just looked "wrong" to me, however I see your point. I mean no offense to you in any way, and your contributions are helpful. Disagreements are just a part of Misplaced Pages as agreements, and if there were no disagreement there would be no progress, really. Daniel Benfield (talk) 23:41, 20 January 2009 (UTC)

I'm sorry too. Everything is OK now. It's always a work in progress on that page. But, I will say this. The pitchfilm is just a pitchfilm. It's only used to sell the show to stations, so, as you've said, it was never meant for air. As far as we know, there's just the (#003N) unaired episode, and that's about it. Nicholasm79 (talk) 00:59, 21 January 2009 (UTC)

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My bad; I just saw the diff in the infobox making it look like you had removed the year from the start date; I didn't notice that the formatting made that redundant (since the year is also given in the end date). Thanks for fixing that. Politizer /_contribs 22:02, 20 January 2009 (UTC)

Understandable. I've had several pages I worked on edited for the sole reason that I had removed that redundancy. If a show ran from September to December of a given year, you don't have to put "September 13, 1995 - December 17, 1995" -- just place "September 13 - December 17, 1995". Makes more sense, and easier to read - moreso when simplified down into numbers ("9-13 to 12-17-1995"). Daniel Benfield (talk) 22:07, 20 January 2009 (UTC)

January 2009

Please do not add original research or novel syntheses of previously published material to our articles as you apparently did to Give or Keep. Please cite a reliable source for all of your information. Thank you. Sottolacqua (talk) 19:53, 26 January 2009 (UTC)

Please do not add original research or novel syntheses of previously published material to our articles as you apparently did to Fortune Hunter. Please cite a reliable source for all of your information. Thank you. Sottolacqua (talk) 19:55, 26 January 2009 (UTC)

March 2009

Thank you for your contributions to Misplaced Pages. Please don't forget to provide an edit summary, as you forgot on your recent edit to Match Game. Thank you. --Ericdn (talk) 04:45, 16 March 2009 (UTC)

Please remember to mark your edits, such as your recent edits to The Showcase (The Price Is Right), as minor if (and only if) they genuinely are minor edits (see Help:Minor edit). Marking a major change as a minor one is considered poor etiquette. The rule of thumb is that only an edit that consists solely of spelling corrections, formatting changes, or rearranging of text without modifying content should be flagged as a "minor edit". Thank you. Sottolacqua (talk) 19:20, 20 March 2009 (UTC)

Please stop capitalizing random words. Sottolacqua (talk) 02:14, 31 March 2009 (UTC)

Misplaced Pages talk:Date formatting and linking poll

I answered your question. Please ask more if you are still confused. Dabomb87 (talk) 00:05, 31 March 2009 (UTC)

• You might also be interested in this take-you-by-the-hand essay: Misplaced Pages:Why dates should not be linked.
  Greg L (talk) 02:02, 31 March 2009 (UTC)

• Hell no I didn’t mean “take-you-by-the-hand” as an insult (offense taken here). As you can see as you read through the essay, I invested a great deal of effort in writing the essay so it had a step-by-step, “take-you-by-the-hand” tone to take editors through the issues and terminology. Jeez, sorry. I certainly didn’t mean it that way. Your wrote Hence, I wish to request a SIMPLE explanation of the issue at hand and the options. I know it regards the formatting of the dates seen in articles and Infoboxes...maybe. My point is, I request a "simple" version of this and future polls for those who know of the subject (and those who don't) and don't know Misplaced Pages's technical terms, not wishing to look through scores of help articles only to result in more confusion. You also wrote Not "hick/idiot" terms, mind you, just the basic facts and options for the common man.

  So I thought my essay should be exactly what you were looking for. Greg L (talk) 02:31, 31 March 2009 (UTC)