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Drilnoth

Voice your opinion (talk page) (12/0/0); scheduled to end 01:49, 13 April 2009 (UTC)

Nomination

Drilnoth (talk · contribs) – Drilnoth has been a Wikipedian since last October, and in a short time he's proven himself to be a great asset to the community. I first learned about him from his userscripts which have helped me to be more productive, and since then I've come to appreciate much of the other work he does around here. He peer reviews articles, he does new page patrolling, he started a great Wikiproject, he uses the bejesus out of Auto Wiki Browser, and he's quickly become very familiar with the intricacies of our policies. Most importantly, I've found him to have a cool head, responding civilly and appropriately even when provoked. He's already been granted rollback privileges, and I have no doubt he'll a great administrator – Quadell 01:49, 6 April 2009 (UTC)

Co-nomination by BOZ: I first noticed Drilnoth within his first few days of editing, as he jumped right into D&D articles. At the time, I was trying and failing to revitalize the Dungeons & Dragons WikiProject, and I saw right from the start how much hard work he was willing to put into what he was working on. I had some chats with him, and I'd like to think that I kind of mentored him, molded and guided his drive and determination as we cleaned up and revitalized the D&D WikiProject together. Not only did he help me clean it up, but he introduced ideas into the project that I would never have conceived of alone - just take a look at what the project page looks like today compared to what it looked like in October and understand that he did most of that work single-handedly (and some of those templatey things on the October version are merely "ghosts" of what is there now, and were not there at the time). In the relatively short time since then, I have seen him really grow as an editor. He has learned how to get an article through the GA process with me, and become quite adept at fixing up articles needing TLC. He has taken on functions beyond his roots with the D&D project by doing recent changes patrol, fixing minor errors on numerous pages, helping to coordinate efforts with mutliple WikiProjects, welcoming new users, reviewing articles for GA, repairing templates, you name it. I can really appreciate him because like me he puts the ideas of civility, consensus, collaboration, and the five pillars as his top priorities. I can't think of an editor on Misplaced Pages who I'd trust more with the tools (myself included) who doesn't already have them.

Candidate, please indicate acceptance of the nomination here: Thank you both; I accept. –Drilnoth (T • C) 12:55, 6 April 2009 (UTC)

Questions for the candidate

Dear candidate, thank you for offering to serve Misplaced Pages as an administrator. It is recommended that you answer these optional questions to provide guidance for participants:

1. What administrative work do you intend to take part in?

A: I’m primarily interested in doing some of the less-controversial maintenance tasks. Having administrator tools will help me move free images to the Commons, and I’ll also work on the deletion backlog for that task. I’ll probably do some work at TfD and CfD, but I doubt that I’ll do many article deletions because I really fall under the “inclusionist” category.

I may also try to keep some of the backlogs in check at WP:RPP, WP:RM, WP:PERM, CAT:PER, and perhaps Category:Rescaled fairuse images more than 7 days old.

Finally, I have some experience with templates and user scripts, so I’ll probably do some more work with them with the ability to edit protected pages. –Drilnoth (T • C) 12:55, 6 April 2009 (UTC)

2. What are your best contributions to Misplaced Pages, and why?

A: I feel that my various user scripts are the most important thing I’ve done for Misplaced Pages, because they help multiple other users to improve the wiki. After that I’d say that the changes to {{Notability}} which I coordinated were important… the template was really starting to get too long. I think that the various Good articles that I’ve helped promote have helped quite a bit, increasing article quality on relatively obscure topics such as Dragons of Despair. –Drilnoth (T • C) 12:55, 6 April 2009 (UTC)

3. Have you been in any conflicts over editing in the past or have other users caused you stress? How have you dealt with it and how will you deal with it in the future?

A: Of course I have; what Wikipedian hasn’t? :) Most of these have just been minor disputes that were resolved in a manner satisfactory to all participants. There is also one larger conflict which I’ve been involved in, that between the Dungeons & Dragons WikiProject and User:Gavin.collins. For the most part I have used the dispute resolution system to help in resolving this dispute, including a request for comment. During my first few weeks of editing I didn’t quite follow the guidelines because I wasn’t aware that they existed, but I don’t think that anything was "out of line"... this might have been close, but as I said I just didn’t know how to resolve disputes at that time.

Regardless, I do not have any intention of using administrator abilities to gain any sort of "advantage" in this dispute or any other. I may protect pages if there is edit warring, but I won’t use blocking, deletion, rollback, etc., in order to handle it; if I think that such is warranted, I’d ask at WP:AN or WP:ANI so that there is outside input. –Drilnoth (T • C) 12:55, 6 April 2009 (UTC)

Additional questions from Letsdrinktea

4. A user creates an article on some corporation. The article for the corporation was deleted via AfD 2 years ago because it was not notable, however the user claims that it is notable now. You find that the article is a substantial copy of the original, and someone has tagged it for speedy deletion under CSD G4. What would you do (would you delete it or not)?

A: Well, I probably wouldn't be looking at such an article in CAT:CSD anyway (see my comments on deletion above). If I was, I would look at just how much of a copy it was and then do at least a quick web search to try and find sources to find out whether or not the topic is, indeed, now notable. If it is I'd add the refs to the bottom of the page and remove the speedy tag to allow the article to be fixed up some more, and I'd also restore the previous;y deleted history for GFDL compliance. If the company still appeared to be non-notable, I'd probably userfy it to allow for improvements since the creator said that the company was now notable (maybe most of the refs are offline, for example), and delete the redirect. I believe that all of this would be in line with CSD G4, which says "provided the copy is substantially identical to the deleted version and that any changes in the recreated page do not address the reasons for which the material was deleted.". As I said, I'm generally an inclusionist and if something is at all worth keeping I think that it should be kept, but userfication is a good alternative, especially for cases regarding notability. –Drilnoth (T • C) 16:10, 6 April 2009 (UTC)

General comments

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Discussion

• Editing stats posted on the talk page.  iMatthew :  Chat  13:07, 6 April 2009 (UTC)

Support

1. Not enough administrators currently.--Patton 13:10, 6 April 2009 (UTC)
2. Not enough administrators currently. Sense of humor fail. I have no reason to not trust him.  iMatthew :  Chat  13:13, 6 April 2009 (UTC)

   Come on, guys. If we don't want DougsTech to template-oppose, perhaps we shouldn't encourage him? –Juliancolton |  13:45, 6 April 2009 (UTC)

   Oh come on, have a sense of humor. I'm only joking.  iMatthew :  Chat  13:47, 6 April 2009 (UTC)

3. Support, as co-nom, natch. :) BOZ (talk) 13:46, 6 April 2009 (UTC)
4. Strong support Wizardman 13:49, 6 April 2009 (UTC)
5. Support sensible - I think Drilnoth has amassed enough experience points to level up Casliber (talk · contribs) 13:53, 6 April 2009 (UTC)

   WP:MMORPG? :) –Drilnoth (T • C) 13:55, 6 April 2009 (UTC)

6. Support The user looks trustworthy to me. hmwithτ 14:09, 6 April 2009 (UTC)
7. Quite honestly, I thought he already was an administrator. NuclearWarfare _(Talk) 14:26, 6 April 2009 (UTC)
8. Support.—Ëzhiki (Igels Hérissonovich Ïzhakoff-Amursky) • (yo?); 14:38, April 6, 2009 (UTC)
9. Why not? Hiding T 14:53, 6 April 2009 (UTC)
10. Weak Support. Some CSD mistakes () but I think this candidate is mature enough to learn from them should they decide to venture into that area. The other contributions look fine enough to assume that they will. Regards SoWhy 15:27, 6 April 2009 (UTC)

    Thanks; I don't plan at this time to actually speedy delete articles both because of those mistakes and because I don't want to do anything controversial like that. –Drilnoth (T • C) 15:35, 6 April 2009 (UTC)

11. Support I don't have no reason not to, but I have a question. I personally have no issue in doing it, but should two people with RFA's open being co-noming each other?? Anyway, support.America69 (talk) 15:40, 6 April 2009 (UTC)

    Heh... well, it just kind of happened that we were both nominated at the same time and we both believe the other would make a good admin so... yah. It's also just kind of funny. :) (besides, to my knowledge a co-nom really doesn't mean much except that it shows a greater vouch for support than a standard vote, but it isn't counted differently at the end). –Drilnoth (T • C) 15:47, 6 April 2009 (UTC)

    Ya, thats fine. It just caught me as funny =). America69 (talk) 15:54, 6 April 2009 (UTC)

    I nominated Drilnoth first ("First Nom!") and didn't know anyone would co-nom him. In fact, I've never interacted with Boz. Both of them secondarily-nominated each other, after someone else had nommed each of them (but not Om nom nommed them), so it's just a coincidence of timing. – Quadell 15:58, 6 April 2009 (UTC)

    Sshhh... it's a secret conspiracy. ;) Well, just a happy coincidence - I'm sure Hiding and Quadell were not discussing in secret about nominating the two of us. :) Hiding first approached me a few weeks ago, and while I was pondering accepting, I thought to myself how Drilnoth would make an excellent admin and started thinking of reasons why. When I saw that he was nominated on the same day as me, and that he had wanted to co-nom me, I figured I'd return the favor with his permission. :) BOZ (talk) 16:55, 6 April 2009 (UTC)

12. Does good work, no reason to believe they'd abuse the tools. Disclaimer: I granted Drilnoth rollback a few days ago. –Juliancolton |  15:51, 6 April 2009 (UTC)
13. Support Good answers to questions, no problems —LetsdrinkTea 16:12, 6 April 2009 (UTC)

Oppose

Inb4 "Too many administrators" —LetsdrinkTea 17:25, 6 April 2009 (UTC)

Neutral