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Current requests



Nobs01 and others acting in concert

Involved parties

Nobs01 Rangerdude Cognition Herschelkrustofsky Sam_Spade

These editors, in various combinations and in various ways, have recently particpated in an editing war involving Misplaced Pages entries under my real name Chip Berlet, and the name of my employer Political Research Associates, both on the text pages and the discussion pages. I have been involved in editing disputes with all of these editors. The current editing war at Chip Berlet and Political Research Associates gives the appearance of using text entries in Misplaced Pages and discussion pages to bully another editor (me - Cberlet) in retaliation for editing disputes. A policy regarding such situations needs to be articulated, and if appropriate, the participants named above held accountable.--Cberlet 21:01, 15 November 2005 (UTC)

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At various times I have been in mediation or participated in requests for comments with most of these editors. I am currently in a stalled mediation with Nobs01 and a dormant mediation with Sam_Spade. Herschelkrustofsky is the subject of an arbitration sanction that involved LaRouche entires in which I participated. --Cberlet 21:01, 15 November 2005 (UTC)

Statement by Cberlet

This case involves establishing the boundaries of proper editing and discussion behavior on Misplaced Pages when a Wiki editor is also the subject of a Wiki entry under their real name and identity. The editors named in this arbitration vary greatly in terms of their behavior, with Nobs01 having the most problematic edit history. Some other editors named have simply participated on the discussion page. All have been involved in editing conflicts with me as a Wiki editor, and then been involved in editing or discussing the entries on me and my employer.

At the heart of the case is a complicated set of questions. If individual Wiki editors are discouraged from editing entries on themselves, what policies might be appropriate to advise Wiki editors who have been in editing disputes with an editor for whom there is an entry? What are the proper boundaries when digging up negative and derogatory information about a fellow Wiki editor with whom one has had a dispute? Is there not a built in bias? Shouldn’t there be some ground rules?

Since Wiki relies on published materials, does a person attacked on Wiki need to “publish” a response to every criticism posted on some marginal website or published in some highly POV print publication? How can persons with entries on Wiki defend themselves against the posting of false, malicious, and potentially defamatory text?--Cberlet 22:12, 15 November 2005 (UTC)


Statement by Rangerdude

Insofar as it involves me, this request for arbitration is completely frivolous. This is a case of an editor, User:Cberlet, who believes he personally owns and/or controls the content of Chip Berlet, an article about himself in real life. In doing so he commits a violation of WP:OWN. Berlet also frequently self-cites his own material, such as in this edit to the Ludwig von Mises Institute where he adds a link to a highly partisan Southern Poverty Law Center opinion piece he authored as if it were a factual source.

As this case relates to the other editors he named, most if not all appear to have drawn Mr. Berlet's wrath by editing either his article in a way that is critical or differing with his strongly exhibited POV's on other articles. While each of these editor disputes should be analyzed individually, there is certainly no "acting in concert" between any of them and myself against Mr. Berlet. All communications I have made with any of the other editors is public on wikipedia article and user talk pages, and in the few instances I have done so with these editors, the topic was something other than Mr. Berlet. Thus, as far as I can tell, Mr. Berlet's real grievance with me is entirely drawn from the fact that he doesn't like the content I added to an article he claims as "his" own, no matter how sourced and valid that content may be.

I have participated in edits on the Chip Berlet article in the past where I made counterbalancing NPOV additions. At the time I made these additions, the article was generally positive about Mr. Berlet and largely lifted from his own self-bio on his website at Political Research Associates. Mr. Berlet is a vocal political figure who writes with a strong leftist editorial POV. To counterbalance this bias, I added sourced and documented criticism of Berlet by conservative columnist David Horowitz to the article as WP:NPOV dictates. In seeking to comply with NPOV I also added several quotes and links to Berlet's responses to Horowitz so as to ensure his side of their dispute was aired as well. Mr. Berlet immediately reacted in hostility to this addition in a talk page post he titled "Help! Giant Blob of Horowitz hit my page" (emphasis added), which called for expunging the Horowitz criticism from the text and substituting a link to Horowitz's articles on the bottom of the page. This case is one of many where Mr. Berlet has referred to the Chip Berlet article as "my page" and has tried to control its content, violating WP:OWN

Berlet made similar attempts to exercise ownership over his organization's article, Political Research Associates. In a post that alleged bias against PRA, Berlet stated "We have discussed this problem at PRA, and we feel this situation needs to be addressed". In my response to this I suggested it was generally inappropriate for PRA to attempt to exercise control over an article about itself and suggested Mr. Berlet should "add to the article—not to subtract from it" if he felt that it was imbalanced against him. Mr. Berlet then responded in a post that contained hostile venom-laced attacks on persons who had criticized him and their supporters:

  • "So far we have had this page taken over by...fans of a small uber-libertarian think tank the Ludwig von Mises Institute.
  • "The critics of PRA quoted include...David Horowitz, who acts as the carnival geek of the ultraconservative political right."

This same post by Berlet alsol alleged that Lyndon LaRouche activists had taken over the article, yet when I looked into this allegation I was unable to find any LaRouche edits in the article's history at least since last year if at all.

Back on Chip Berlet a dispute over the size of Horowitz material followed and the page was temporarily protected until a version of the text was agreed upon. This agreement was reached between August 9th and 14th and a neutral admin removed protection.

From that time until the present I have kept the Chip Berlet article on my watchlist. When another content dispute involving other editors emerged earlier this week around November 12th or 13th, I read through the dispute and made a grand total of four talk page contributions. Two of these proposed compromises aimed at resolving the dispute and the other two urged editors whose tempers were flaring up to assume good faith . This arbitration request by Mr. Berlet stems from the November 12th-present dispute and now alleges some sort of vast conspiracy between myself and other editors to subvert articles that he appears to think he owns since they are about him. As can be plainly seen in the edit diffs indicating my involvement in this latest dispute, nothing could be further from the truth. In fact, one of the editors who is generally supportive of Mr. Berlet - SlimVirgin - even agreed with one of the suggestions I made as a possible compromise.

In light of the above, I urge the Arbcom to reject and dismiss Cberlet's request, at least as it pertains to me, as frivolous. Should the Arbcom decide to investigate it further, I would urge them to examine the WP:OWN issue as it pertains to Mr. Berlet's behavior on articles pertaining to him in real life. Rangerdude 21:57, 15 November 2005 (UTC)

Statement by Snowspinner

I would hope that the arbcom would take this case, as it touches on a major issue we face on Misplaced Pages, which is the treatment of expert contributors. Cberlet summarizes the situation accurately - because of his opposition to several groups - most notably our friends in the LaRouche movement - he is a target for harassment and defamation. On the one hand, as we've learned in countless cases (John Byrne, the Bogdanovs), we have to be careful about letting editors dictate the content of articles about themselves. On the other, it would be a far graver mistake to allow expert contributors to be driven off through campaigns of harassment by their political enemies.

Statement by Gamaliel

While it's important to resist the wishes of public and semi-public figures who wish to eliminate criticism of themselves, this goes beyond that and into the realm of grudges and personal attacks. Insertions of tangental and irrelevant references to Berlet in a number of articles and screens of references to "body counts" add up to a POV pusher with a grudge against this user. Gamaliel 22:34, 15 November 2005 (UTC)

Statement by Sam Spade

Here is a brief summary of Cberlet's history of aggression towards myself.

The charges Cberlet brings are of course absurd, and in my regards likely consist of nothing more than a recent thank you note from nobs on my talk page, and questions I asked here. I have no idea who User:Cognition is, for example, and have had only fleeting contact w the other named parties.

I had, however, been considering bringing a case against Cberlet for his neverending POV pushing (have a glance at his contributions sometime), but I am uncertain he is so bad as to require banning.

I will examine my evidence, and his recent contributions, with what little time I have to spare during midterms, and will comment regarding a counter-suit at another juncture.

Sam Spade 23:26, 15 November 2005 (UTC)

Case against Cberlet

Cberlet is the clearest example of POV pushing I know of on the wikipedia. I intend to make this as clear as possible.

Premises:

  • User:Cberlet is Chip Berlet
  • Chip Berlet is notable enough for a wikipedia article
    • Chip Berlet is an a opinionated journalist
    • We know what Chip Berlet's POV is (roughly)
  • Cberlet makes edits of the same POV as he expresses in his profession, sometimes even citing his POV.
  • Cberlet's POV is not often notable

Examples:

  • Cberlet cites himself
  • Cberlet expresses his POV on his articles talk page

While the wikipedia has many professors (or other sorts of experts on various matters) who are also editors, they are not allowed to cite themselves, by name, in the article namespace; nor express their POV therein. If someone else cites them due to their notability, that is of course allowed. They should not however become interfered in such matters.

Sam Spade 00:30, 16 November 2005 (UTC)

(Please limit your statement to 500 words)

Statement by SlimVirgin

I hope the committee will accept Cberlet's case. Chip Berlet (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) was created in May 2004 by an IP address within a range known to have been used by the LaRouche accounts (Herschelkrustofsky et al), who used the page as a platform for LaRouche criticism of Chip until the second LaRouche arbcom case in January 2005. In July, Rangerdude fell out with Cberlet on other pages, opened an RfC against him on July 25, and then started editing Chip Berlet on July 28 (the first time he'd edited it), inserting criticism, which raised a potential legal problem of negative material being inserted with malice. (I'm currently having to defend myself, in the arbcom case against Rangerdude, against charges that I violated NPOV and AGF when I tried to stop him. ) Now Nobs01, who often edits with Rangerdude, is inserting that Chip was closely associated with "defender of terrorism," and has made comments that look like threats, implying that if we don't retain the material, he'll insert even worse, which again raises the issue of malice. "If you want to spend weeks discussing the Weather Underground, Philip Agee ... fine. In the end, you may wish the namespace only included 'an apologist and defender for terrorists and terrorism'," "The two deaths from terrorists incidents can be included to give context, if necessary," and "Mr. Berlet knows efforts to suppress documentation often lead to more documentation being presented." SlimVirgin 01:52, 16 November 2005 (UTC)

In fairness to Rangerdude, he has made a helpful suggestion for compromise between Nobs01 and the other editors, and hasn't backed Nobs up this time. SlimVirgin 02:10, 16 November 2005 (UTC)

Arbitrators' opinion on hearing this matter (1/0/0/0)

Rex071404

Involved parties

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Confirmation that all parties are aware of the request
Confirmation that other steps in dispute resolution have been tried

There was another arbitration for precisely this issue a year ago (Misplaced Pages:Requests_for_arbitration/Rex071404). 100's of kB's of discussion and attempted third party interventions and several page protections have produced no result. That ban from that ArbCom was for 4 months. The ban from another arbcom he was involved in (for similar issues) was a self-imposted 6 month ban, which expired in mid October 2005. The complaintants feel that we do not need to do the Request for Comment step since part of our argument is that Rex071404 is in direct violation of previous arbcom sanctions against him.

Statement by third party starting arbitration

I don't know what the precedent is for someone uninvolved starting an arbitration, but it needs to be done. Rex has only been back for about a month, and in that time he's racked up more than a thousand edits, most of them to John Kerry and its talk page. This is not only a content dispute. Rex is a career edit warrior, and consistently reverts three times in a day and uses other gaming tactics. All four of the protections of John Kerry were due to Rex's edit wars. He is also we increasingly hostile and confrontational on the talk page. The crucial issue is that Rex does not understand, or refuses to accept, the consensus formed by very many other editors over a long period of time. His many reverts, his endless filibustering on the talk page, all show a disregard for consensus. He is also highly suspected of using abusive sockpuppets to revert and harass others . See this post, which is in regards to a massive attack on Woohookitty on November 13th, 2005.) It is time that more substantial arbcom restrictions be put in place. Dmcdevit·t 06:10, 14 November 2005 (UTC)

Statement by party Rex071404

I did not vandalize or in any way molest Woohookitty. I edit only from 216.153.214.94. I am not using sockpuppets. I am citing my disputed edits. At this very moment, I am on IRC with Kizzle seeking common ground. I believe I am not in violation. As a show of good faith, I will voluntarily edit no more at John Kerry until this RfA is concluded. Rex071404 07:30, 14 November 2005 (UTC)

Statement by Woohookitty

My statement is in regards to something Dmcdevit mentioned. That would be the very bad vandalism attack that I suffered tonight that I am quite certain came from Rex071404. It started earlier today. At around 22:00 on Nov. 13th, I posted This to the talk page on the Talk:John Kerry page. The user did NOT respond on the Kerry talk page, which is extremely odd. He always responds to stuff like that. As would see from the history page, he posts alot. Well at 00:03 on Nov. 14th, I thought that something was amiss because Rex posted to the Price-Anderson Act talk page, which he had never done. Well, at 00:11, we had the first appearance of one of the vandals, Anonrtgtt. And his/her post was very specific, wondering why the "pro Kerry" version had been protected. Strange since she had never posted on here before. 00:32 was Rex's last edit, but the sockpuppet continued on. Here is the page that lists the various usernames the vandals used. There ended up being 5. Mostly, they posted very specific edits. I'm not going to go into specifics here. That can be left for the evidence page.

I will say, though, that many things point this to Rex071404. #1 we have the time issue. Rex071404's last post was 00:32. The vandals continued beyond that. The 5th and last of the series, Anonr left at about 2:25. At that point, I had finally gotten CoolCat to ban creation of names that started with anon. Well then, Rex came back on at 4:02. Since AOL accounts can be created at the drop of a hat and since we discovered through a checkuser that the vandal used AOL, it's very easy to see that Rex could've quickly created an account...used it until he was blocked...and then went back to his regular account. And since AOL IPs cannot be traced, he knew he'd be scot free. One of the first things he did was revert and remove a post of mine to his talk page, which has been a problem for him in the past. IIRC several sanctions were because of that. And then he went back to edit warring on Kerry, but again, he did NOT respond to my earlier post. Another thing that points this to Rex is a post that kizzle made. Apparently, Rex started using an IP address to post from, but for the longest time, he denied it. And it was similar...one address said one thing and the other one would back it up. Kind of like how he removed my valid comment from his talk page but kept the one from a known vandal (Anonrtgtt).

The most convincing evidence is the following. Look at this revert by Rex , and then this revert by the sockpuppet . Why should some "new" user coincidentally make the exact same edit as Rex? It's just a bit strange and evidence that these were puppets of Rex.

This is getting long, so I will end here. Rex needs to be dealt with. Period. And this is the beginning of our case, not the end. It's more than just using sockpuppets. --Woohookitty 07:46, 14 November 2005 (UTC)

Statement by Mr. Tibbs

Rex071404 has a long and troubled history here at Misplaced Pages. He has been the subject of 3 previous Arbitration Cases . He has had multiple RfCs filed against him. . But all of those previous attempts at Dispute Resolution have failed. And that is why we are here today. Rex continues to violate the principles that were brought up in his previous Arbitrations.

Recently Rex has attempted to dominate the John Kerry article yet again. He has not only persistently edit-warred against the consensus forcing the article into protection multiple times, but he has attempted to manipulate the system with a reversion system of his own. Rex maintains a list of versions he likes to revert to. When the community revert's his changes, Rex simply picks a different version from his list and reverts to that, claiming it's not a revert. This system enables Rex to simply ignore the 3RR rule and continuously revert the community's consensus. Numerous people have attempted to dialog with Rex, so much so, that the discussion now occupies 6 archive spaces and approximately 700 kb worth of talk not including the current talkpage. A vote was recently attempted to try and close the discussion. Even after that, Rex continued to push his POV, which resulted in the page being protected again. As if these violations aren't enough to permanently condemn Rex, Rex choose to spawn several sockpuppets to harass Woohookitty after he correctly identified Rex's game.

The most recent Arbitration against Rex foolishly concluded that a "self-imposed" ban would be sufficient to deal with Rex. We have seen that that simply isn't the case. It should be clear to anyone observing these developments that Rex071404 is a Repeat Offender deserving Permanent ramifications. We ask for just that, to finally settle this dispute once and for all. -- Mr. Tibbs 09:15, 14 November 2005 (UTC)

Statement by JamesMLane

Rex has been the subject of three previous arbitration proceedings, plus some number of RfC's, short-term blocks by individual admins, and messages on his talk page and on article talk pages from uninvolved editors seeking to offer him friendly guidance. None of this has changed his relentless POV-pushing in the slightest. All he has learned from it is how to be slightly more canny, by not being quite so obviously in violation of Misplaced Pages rules. He hasn't blanked anyone's user page and substituted "bite me" as the text. Nevertheless, the fundamentals are unchanged. He has consumed huge amounts of editor time on John Kerry. Much of his time has been spent arguing over matters that he brought up back in August -- August of 2004, that is. (See Talk:John Kerry/August 2004 archive 1#Account of Vietnam service.) The Kerry article, his pet obsession, has already been protected three times in the month since Rex's return. Absent ArbCom action, the article will remain in a state of semi-permanent edit war, with intermittent protections. Please don't suggest dialog as the solution. In the one month since Rex's return, Talk:John Kerry has been archived five times, racking up just short of 800kb, to no discernible benefit.

If any arbitrator votes against taking this case, I would greatly appreciate it if you would add some idea of what alternative course of action you think should be pursued. JamesMLane 14:02, 14 November 2005 (UTC)

Statement by Derex

Over a year ago, Rex was infuriated that he could not call a wound involving shrapnel lodged in in John Kerry's arm "minor". Kerry received the Purple Heart for this wound. The article factually stated that Kerry returned to duty the next day. A consensus emerged that the facts spoke for themselves, without any extra and disputable characterization (is shrapnel embedded in your arm "minor", how is that defined?). Why was Rex so insistent on adding spin? Because it was from the Republican & Swift Vet talking points: the wound was "minor", so Kerry didn't deserve that Purple Heart. We didn't bury the dispute, we created three very large daughter articles devoted to various allegations against Kerry, but that lengthy exploration did not and has not satisfied Rex. There were at least a dozen similar disputes, where the clear perception was that Rex was attempting to push a POV ... which the arbitration committee later explicitly determined to be the case. However, the "minor" dispute was the proximate cause of the first arbitration case. It is not a coincidence that Rex has chosen to make exactly the same dispute the subject of a multi-week debate requiring 3 archives of the John Kerry talk page upon his return. Of all the articles on Misplaced Pages, of all the potential problems with John Kerry, Rex returned directly to this issue, making the exact same arguments as before. (I edited under the name Wolfman at that time.)

Now, Rex thinks his behavior upon return is fine, because the lesson he learned from the previous arbitrations was "be civil". Granted he has been more or less civil. In contrast, I have been somewhat rude to Rex at times, because I am beyond exasperated. However, Rex learned the wrong lesson, or at least the less important one. Civility is great, but civility isn't part of the article. The absolutely fundamental and, as Jimbo says, "non-negotiable" principle of Misplaced Pages is NPOV. Rex simply does not understand the concept at any more than a rudimentary level. Or, if he does, he willfully ignores it. My problem with Rex now, and my problem with Rex over a year ago, is that every single edit he makes is an attempt to push his POV. While this is often blatant, he is also remarkably clever at finding subtle ways to insert spin. Note, he doesn't remove pro-Kerry spin, that would be admirable; he inserts spin. I have never cared that Rex used to be rude. I have never cared that he caused page protections. The lesson he drew from the last case was: don't do those things. Here's what I care about:

  • The absolutely astounding amount of time Rex causes to be wasted debating trivialites such as the distinction between gauze dressing and bandage.
  • The shameless POV-pushing with every edit.

The bottom line is that this exact same dispute has been through both RFC and arbcom before. In both cases, there was a finding that Rex was POV-pushing (see eg Rex3, Finding 2). And, I do mean the exact same dispute, with the same arguments; see the archive link James provided. One difference is that most of the complainants are different (Only James & myself were among the 8 complainants in Rexcom 1). There are thousands of other editors, and millions of potential ones, besides Rex who can take up the holy cause of argueing that Kerry's shrapnel injury was not a "wound", that he did not "sustain" or "suffer" the non-wound rather "receiving" it, that the non-wound was at any rate "minor", that it was merely "dressed" with "ointment" or, at the most, covered in "gauze" and certainly not "bandaged". And, of course, the ever popular Kerry might have shoved the shrapnel into his own arm, on purpose, in order to get a Purple Heart. There are thousands who could surely make this wholly neutral and obvious point while generating less than one gigabyte of talk page archives. So, I ask that Rex be banned permanently from editing articles which heavily involve United States politics. Otherwise, John Kerry will be defeated in 2004.

To the best of my recollection, I have not edited John Kerry from the time Rex left until the time he showed up again. I'll leave it alone again should he be prohibited from editing it. But, I'll not voluntarily let Rex, through sheer persistence & intransigence, spin a smear on that page. Derex @ 15:35, 14 November 2005 (UTC)

Statement by Jtdirl/FearÉireann

There is not much more to add. Everything has been accurately covered. I was not an original participant to the 'debate'. I noticed what seemed like an endless stream of reverts on the page and asked what the problem was. On reading the page it became clear that it seemed to be a case of one user (Rex) versus the rest. Rex was practically jamming the page with the same point repeated ad nausaum. He would make demands that NPOV words have POV qualifiers added to by implication accuse Kerry of dishonesty and repeatedly go back to the issue. Even when an overwhelming consensus disagreed with him, and having he implied he would finish the point and move on, he would then reopen it from stratch a day or two later, demanding people provide evidence for their opinions, insisting that someone who was wounded shouldn't be said to have a wound, then that the wound must be called minor, then that a bandage may not necessarily be made of cloth!!! He took nitpicking to the ultimate extreme.

I was surprised that so many users had actually kept up the debate with him for so long. One could see genuine new users arriving, gently probing his views, and then progressively over the days becoming more and more frustrated at his determination, through in tiny minority (frequently of one), to keep the argument going over the same points over and over again. Time and again someone would come on with a tone of 'you haven't discussed it with Rex fully' and after 2 or 3 days themselves show complete frustration at his behaviour. I was only involved for a week or two. In that time I must have heard him repeat the same points tens of times, including producing a list of 50 (!) things he wanted to discuss, most of which were simply the same five each said in different ways. In all the time the debate did not seem to move off one paragraph, which seems to have 100k+ written about it, most of it Rex repeating himself, with everyone replying in effect 'we know. We know. You've told us. You haven't convinced us. Lets move on to work on another paragraph'.

I ended up concluding that while Rex genuinely believed in what he was writing, he simply would not agree to abide by any decisions, listen to anyone or accept anything that he had not agreed to. When votes were proposed (which it was obvious he was going to lose) he responded with statements that implied 'you can't do that'. I was not surprised when told about the history of RfCs and arb rulings on Rex. When finally people lost patience and began insisting that the issue was closed and it wasn't being discussed anymore suspicious abusive sockpuppets began appearing and attacking some contributors to the talk page. The timing of their appearance and their comments raised strong suspicions in me and in others that they were in fact Rex.

I have rarely seen one page so comprehensively highjacked by one user with demands that his POV demands he accepted. Nor a user given so many chances from other users to expand on his views, yet so cynically use it in an effort of forcing his views on the page through wearing people down.

Statement by Szyslak

Before Rex's return, my contributions to John Kerry and my participation in talk page dialogue didn't extend much beyond reverting simple vandalism. When he restarted the pattern of POV pushing and edit warring that led us up to this point, I became involved in this dispute, taking part in some of the talk page dialogue that's taken up almost a gigabyte of valuable server space. I've stepped away from the dispute in the past couple of weeks, but I became aware of this request when it was announced on Talk:John Kerry.

As this case progresses, Rex will claim, as he has a hundred times, that he's the innocent here, that his reasonable, neutral edits have been stonewalled by a cabal of uncooperative liberals intent on whitewashing Kerry. Indeed, he claims to have moderated his editing style since his return, "staying within acceptable parameters": , . In fact, as the other participants in this case have noted, he has continued the same behavior that led to his three other arbitration cases, only in a less blatant manner. For example, he's been making edits to the section he disputes that aren't exactly alike, so he can claim that his edits are not reverts. In fact, he has a list of versions of the paragraph, which he will sometimes copy into the article. His list is at User_talk:Rex071404/vf.

One thing the other complainants haven't mentioned: A few days after his return, Rex created a subpage of his user talk page, which was deleted at Rex's request: User talk:Rex071404/Liberal bias (undelete), originally titled "Liberal Editors Cabal". This page was unknown to most editors until Kizzle pointed out its existence on the Kerry talk page: , . Rex claimed that other editors had no right to read the page , which Kizzle called a "liberal hit list" . I would recommend restoring the page so it can be used as evidence, because in my opinion it does indeed read as a "liberal hit list". It's full of accusations of "improper reverting", "refusing to dialogue on talk" and other hysterical, incivil accusations typically made by Rex.

As Jimbo said in his original formulation of the neutral point of view, "...there are ideologues in the world who will not concede to any presentation other than a forceful statement of their own point of view". After 16 months, three and possibly four arbitration cases and a gigabyte of contentious talk page dialogue, Rex071404 has proven time and time again that he cannot or will not follow our norms of neutrality, civility and community consensus. Szyslak ( ) 12:12, 15 November 2005 (UTC)

Statement by Gamaliel

Many people have said that Rex is more civil than he was prior to his first couple visits to ArbCom. But as Szyslak noted, he's merely "less blatant" than before. Rex still throws around accusations of bias, rudely snaps at other editors on the talk page (even once when I complimented an edit of his), uses edit summaries to accuse and attack, and wrenches quotes from others out of context to wave them around triumphantly, try to make them say the opposite of what people actually intended, or make it look like people agree with him. He has no conception about what consensus actually is. To him, if everyone agrees with something except him, the consensus is invalid, but if he and one other person agree on some minor point, he declares consensus and labels further edits as going against that imaginary consensus.

Rex has made some minor positive contributions, but they are far outweighed by his edit warring and his constant POV pushing. He has wasted countless hours worth of time and energy from other editors who could be contributing positively to this project and there's no indication that he's ever going to stop. Gamaliel 22:28, 15 November 2005 (UTC)

Arbitrators' opinion on hearing this matter (3/0/0/0)

HeadleyDown, JPLogan, others

Article
Neuro-linguistic programming (Talk)

Involved parties

Users concerned (Note: new suspected sock-puppets get added regularly)

Additional suspected sock-puppets:

(Not all of these accounts are causing problems to an equal degree as others, partially since some have been here longer than others. Roughly the above list is in order from most actual damage to date, to least. It is not known which of the above are bona-fide editors and which are just less active sock-puppets or cronies, since although not all have been disruptive, each of the above has engaged in at least some of the common styles of behavior described)

Brief summary of case

The neuro-linguistic programming ("NLP") article has been damaged by aggressive POV warrioring, vandalism, and flagrant ongoing breach of Misplaced Pages policies from multiple accounts over the last 3 months, including multiple breach of 3RR, POV aggression on other pages related to NLP, reams of rants on the talk page, attribution of false credentials to sources, deletion of the ArbCom vote motion, deletion of other users comments, and regular avoidance of courteous talk page requests in favor of deletion and further POV-addition.

There is strong suspicion that most of the users involved in this are sock-puppets or cronies. All eight of them seem (from their contributions list) to have arrived on Misplaced Pages in the same limited period, immediately homed in on the same NLP article, write with similar style wording and agenda, edit at a similar time of day, and none (with a minor exception) has worked on any article except NLP and its related articles to any significant degree since. This was underlined today by the near-simultaneous arrival yesterday following discussion of research and usage, of not one but two previously unknown Misplaced Pages users AMaulden and JaseC, in an identical manner, who immediately began the likewise identical behavior in likewise almost identical style.

Despite being warned several times that referral to ArbCom would be needed, requests to desist by multiple users, and mediation, this has continued and got worse. A vote by other editors including example DIFFs was held, and received a 7-0 vote in support of a view that mediation was fruitless and to seek arbitration.

The matter is slightly complicated because we are not completely sure which of the named users, or indeed other editors on the article and talk page, are sock puppets or cronies. We think most if not all of the named ones are. We don't wish to lose information held by genuine editors (if any) or exclude genuine views (however extreme), however HeadleyDown at least is a confirmed vandal, almost certain sock-puppeteer, and POV warrior, and appears incapable of handling even sourced cited research that contradicts his views, and several/most of the named users are almost equally problematic and likely sock puppets for him or others.

So what we would like to ask is that:

  1. HeadleyDown, possibly JPLogan, plus the other named users (including newly arriving sock puppets or similar) who appear not to be making a bona-fide positive contribution to the article and fail to act in accordance with wiki policies and standards, to be permanently prevented from editing on the subject of NLP or its articles, and
  2. If any of the other named users are bona fide editors who have acted disruptively, that they are limited to an appropriately sized and WP policy-compliant criticism section on NLP-related articles, with a one-revert limit (and permission for a short term ban and ArbCom re-referral as deterrents if repeated).

Our aim in asking this is to strike a balance: we don't wish to lose valuable input from other genuine views, or the positive contribution of genuine editors in the above list (if any), but also neither do we want the articles degraded by disruptive ones.

Confirmation that all parties are aware of the request

All parties have been notified, both by general notice on the article's talk page DIFF and individually: HeadleyDown DIFF, JPLogan DIFF, DaveRight DIFF, D.Right DIFF, Bookmain DIFF, AliceDeGrey DIFF, AMaulden DIFF, JaseC DIFF, HansAntel DIFF

Confirmation that other steps in dispute resolution have been tried

The article and its editors have run the gamut of reasonable discussion.

The Neuro-linguistic programming article has been through discussion, dispute, and 5 weeks of mediation. The degree of POV warring has been extreme. I asked for mediation a second time specifically with HedleyDown (Oct 30) and specifically to discuss and gain mutual agreement about NPOV and how it applies to this article. However his actions in the few days following made it highly unlikely this would be fruitful. A formal talk page vote was finally held (Nov. 3) and editors agreed 7-0 that mediation should be deemed unlikely to be fruitful and the matter passed to ArbCom for a ruling. This is because the core issues are not about individual section edits, but about virulent POV aggression and policy breach which is not being addressed, has not been addressed in the several weeks since a mediator was appointed, continues unchanged and unabated, shows no sign of change, and is causing significant friction and deterrence to otherwise neutral editors who are becoming unwilling to edit the article against such hostility and name-calling.

The users concerned have been told in polite terms, direct terms, directed to wikipedia policy, and had wikipedia policy summarized for them by multiple users, despite lack of civility, who have usually been dismissed or had personal remarks for doing so. In the meantime they continue between them to engage in aggressive POV warring on the talk page, the article and elsewhere, inappropriate editing, deletion of cited sourced material, and personal attacks/remarks.

Multiple warnings that an ArbCom referral vote would be held were given, with repeated requests by multiple users to cease policy breaches and other actions so as not to have to take that step.

Subsequent to the article's ArbCom vote, HeadleyDown increased his breaches of wiki policy, including deletion of the Arbcom vote and users posts, in the last 24 hours two new users (AMaulden and JaseC) - most likely sock puppets - have been added to the article, and users posts have been deleted.

Although mediation technically has not ended, it has been 3 months since this all started, 10 days since the above vote on the talk page, and 5 weeks since mediation began, and nothing's changed of any significance. It's still (to cite FuelWagon) "some of the most biased editing I've read... If you're a POV warrior using Misplaced Pages to advocate against something, you need to find a different encyclopedia to edit." , and the suspected sock-puppets etc keep coming.

Statement by FT2 (on behalf of complainants)

The Neuro-linguistic programming article, which has for the most part been well run in a civil manner in the past, has been disrupted principally by users HeadleyDown, JPLogan, but also with POV degradation, personal attacks and/or remarks by others such as User:DaveRight, Bookmain and AliceDeGrey. There is now strong suspicion that most if not all of the named users may be sock puppets, due to similarities in their editing and histories. Having run the gamut of reasonable discussion, other contributors to the page in question voted to request arbitration.

None of the users named have made any any significant contribution to any topic other than this one topic and other NLP-related articles (with the exception of DaveRight on Neurofeedback and Speed reading). In some instances they have continued their POV approach on NLP to the detriment of other pages too. In essense, they have acted as POV warriors with a single viewpoint who have proven unable or uninterested in the wiki approach or policies, and have little interest in anything beyond their own view. (eg, see: Psychopablum created by JPLogan). Fundamentally they do not seem to show the slightest ability or care for collaborating in a wiki manner. Indeed their idea of collaboration is insults and ignoring or dismissal of issues, often with personal attacks and remarks. Since apparently joining Misplaced Pages at similar times (HeadleyDown Aug 2005, JPLogan and AliceDeGrey Sept 2005, DaveRight Oct 2005, etc), all have done virtually no other editing except POV degradation on the NLP article and/or negative talk page comments to its existing editors.

Accordingly it is the majority sense of those presenting this request that an appropriate ban from Misplaced Pages NLP editing is appropriate, and this is what is requested.

Examples of POV warring (DIFF examples of each given in the ArbCom vote on the article talk page)
  • POV suppression
  • Repeated deletion of sourced material or cited fact about the subject by reputable authors, often followed by addition of more POV material.
  • Personal attacks
  • Ignoring of requests to discuss edits
  • Citation of fraudulent credentials of renown ascribed to an author to back up a slanted source (a web opinion presented as scientific "research")
  • Falsely representing the opinion of professional bodies or ignoring their actual opinions as stated on their own website (which had been pointed out multiple times).
  • Defamatory personal attack (eg, JPLogan's NLP talk page comment "I'm sure someone will find a citation for it... Wanna make some money out of NLP?" in response to deletion of personal view added to article by editor)

These and other examples can be found as DIFFs in the Arbitration vote.

Arbitration vote and DIFF citations at
Talk:Neuro-linguistic_programming#Arbitration.
Other action before Arbitration vote
  • Prior to the vote, a formal request was posted to the mediator's talk page for an opinion whether he felt the mediation process was able to resolve the issue.
  • I and others also warned HeadleyDown and others on multiple occasions that co-editors' patience was running out, and that he needed to respect NPOV policy, as numerous other editors had also stated. I told him explicitly on three occasions that his present type of conduct would be unacceptable on Misplaced Pages, and would ultimately lead to an Arbitration Committee referral to prevent him editing the article. His reply was initially to agree to renewed mediation, but almost immediately to revert to personal remarks and increased POV attack.
Votes for referral (with support for statement that mediation is unlikely to be fruitful)
  1. FT2
  2. Comaze
  3. Lee1
  4. FuelWagon
  5. GregA (originally posted as User:203.217.56.137)
  6. User:PatrickMerlevede
  7. User:Justin Anderson (also posting as 211.27.105.9)

In addition one other user has indicated strong support but not voted due to short time of editing:

  • Faxx: "If the history of this discussion has demonstrated anything, it's the pointlessness of trying to engage Headleydown and his ridiculous sock-puppets in a constructive dialogue. lets just get to arbitration a.s.a.p .... FT2 has already moved for arbitration not long ago. There were votes although I did not participate due to not really participating in the editing. I've just been reading the endlesly recycling discussion. Nothing will get done this way. HeadleyDown obviously has nothing better to do with his time than pursue his crusade." and
Users voting against arbitration
  • None, other than comments by the users concerned.
Mediator's comments
  1. Following the Arbcom vote, the mediator commented that he felt it was neither efficient nor necessary.
  2. Two days later the mediator added: "Note: to Headley et al, just because I am mediating here does not mean that I have the final say...."
Example events since arbitration vote

Despite the semblence of continuing mediation,

  • HeadleyDown deleted the Arbcom vote post, in "revenge" for his reply being moved (unchanged) to the marked comments section below.
  • HeadleyDown deleted two of Justin Anderson's comments from the Talk page.
  • The 3RR has also been broken on at least two separate occasions preventing balancing material being added, or slanted writing being corrected. (example: 15:02 Nov 7 16:38 Nov 7 17:51 Nov 7 01:10 Nov 8)
  • Multiple personal remarks and attacks
  • The article has had further core factual material removed
  • Related articles to NLP have also begun being degraded; when it was noted that some specialised material was being moved to side-articles, HeadleyDown's response was: "Hi FT2. Presently the NLP modelling page is full of hype and exagerated claims. I wonder why you didn't notice:) That will change soon enough. Regards HeadleyDown"
  • Talk page posts explaining and discussing edits, with the intent of promoting mutual collaboration, continue to be bluntly ignored. (eg: )
  • The definitions of the subject, cited from its founders' websites and standard texts, was deleted complete with citations, by JPLogan.
  • An attempt to balance an apparent misrepresentation of an author was followed by ignoring the request to discuss on talk page, and deletion of the balancing quote and addition of more POV citations. This left the introduction with 3 selectively represented views showing a view that NLP was pseudoscience and a cult, and not one of the many research and other citations showing that the opposite view is strongly supported.
  • POV warfare edits continue to the present time (eg in this edit series dated Nov 15 (12 days after the article vote and 2 days after the formal RFArb posting), DaveRight adds the word "pseudoscience" or "pseudoscientific" 3 times in different places and removes the {{dubious}} tag from a fourth. Following this edit, the article contains 25 mentions of the word "pseudoscience" or "pseudoscientific" alone, excuding section titles.
Other information
  • One editor, User:TBP, was explicitly self-identified as a sock puppet on his talk page before becoming involved in this article Oct 17 DIFF. He played no part in the vote or its discussion, and only a minor role in the talk page debate, mostly between Oct 27-29.

We have acted with appropriate patience and reserve, but despite much patience, many flames, and much time, there is just no sign whatsoever of any intent to change, nor any significant indication they want to change enough to participate appropriately in Misplaced Pages NLP for the foreseeable future. We therefore ask that ArbCom accept this matter for Arbitration.

FT2 10:26, 13 November 2005 (UTC)

Update & responses:

  1. I agree with one aspect of Voice of All's statement, an initial IP check on all editors concerned would be helpful. The principle editors of the article and talk page recently are as follows: the eight editors named, the 7 voters named, Voice of All, Flavius vanillus, 203.100.233.178, 203.186.238.*, 211.30.47-48.*, 80.44.*, 81.151.*. However this does not change my feeling that mediation is likely proven fruitless, because the nature of the problem is not textual compromise within the article, but users engaging in vandalism, fraudulent credentials cited to bolster extreme view, fraudulent representation of professional bodies despite multiple correction, deterrance of editors, constant personal attacks, remarks and defamation, heavy duty slanting, and utter lack of civility or respect for editors or information.
     
  2. I do not agree with Voice of All that "he blanket reverts were of edits to multiple sections". For most, this seems irrelevant. Quick examples (a few out of many): HeadleyDown replaces one paragraph in intro that presents 2 sides of a view, with 2 extreme views on same side (interesting observation: HeadleyDown uses nonsense word "psychopablum" but JPLogan creates an article defining that word and referencing NLP); JPLogan deletes the entire section of core definitions within the field by its founders complete with full citations on the mind-boggling basis that they are "uncited" and that citing them is "POV"; HeadleyDown removes a key qualifier in parentheses regarding the British Psychological Society leaving impression that Parkers view represents them accurately; HeadleyDown rewords an already unbalanced paragraph which had been compromised, with even more generalized wording that removes the "X said Y" qualifier; and again more selective POV insertion by DaveRight; Bookmain removes citation from British Dyslexia Association paragraph which uses NLP, replacing it by a subtlely misrepresented citation from Children In Therapy to state "NLP is quackery" (in fact it is attachment therapy and not NLP which is the target of that page, NLP is a technique claimed by attachment therapy protagonists to support it); Bookmain deletes a paragraph that states NLP rests on an observational rather than theoretical basis; ... which is re-deleted by AliceDeGrey when corrected; Bookmain edits the one paragraph on NLP in policing, 1/ replacing a factual "wide range" with "some", 2/ deletes the FBI's actual comment in support of NLP's efficacy, 3/ deletes a police statement that it is field proven, 4/ adds a spurious "claims to be", and 5/ adds a selective quotation after all this that NLP "has been tested by criminologists and has been found not to work in crime situations".

Statement by HeadleyDown

(Please limit your statement to 500 words)

Hello mediators/arbitrators. This is interesting. I simply want to say that arbitration is an extremely long way off, and our helpful mediator VoiceOfAll seems to concur with that. Mediation seems to be working well. Each time the NLP promoters (I call them that because a lot of them have a vested interest) remove lots of cited fact, the mediator steps in and they calm down. When the more neutral (sorry, less proNLPers) compromise (usually a lot in favour of NLP) the proNLPers calm down some more. I have to admit it does get very tedious to have to restore censored facts all the time, and have to keep answering the same questions all the time (badgering), so things do get a little heated at times. It doesn't help that nearly all non-proNLPers have been labeled sockpuppets at some time. But things are moving forward now the mediator has helped out. Actually there are often major moves in the direction away from arbitration. I personally am fairly ok with the idea of arbitration, but it seems a bit silly to do so when mediation is starting to work so well with a level head and an good and increasing understanding of the subject. Anyway, its all up to you. Regards HeadleyDown 12:33, 13 November 2005 (UTC)

Statement by party user:FuelWagon re: NLP

I became involved in the NLP article in October. I hadn't heard of "Neuro Linguistic Programming" until I found the article, and I have no personal bias for or against the topic. But it is clear to me that the article is in clear violation of NPOV. There appear to be a number of editors with proclaimed biases against NLP who are editing the article in violation of NPOV. Someone with a longer history of the article can present more evidence, but here are a few diffs that show some blatant biases that directly affect the article.

03:39, 3 November 2005 DaveRight does a blanket revert of a number of edits, reinserting a bunch of text including "Many such courses appear to depend more upon charismatic appeal, wish-fulfillment, quick fixes, and lack of critical faculty, than actual quantifiable results, and so are often considered pure pseudoscience." as well as "Similar to other amoral pseudoscientific psychocults such as Dianetics and EST" Both sentences present as fact what is actualy disputed opinions of NLP, namely calling NLP "wish fullfillment", "pseudoscience", "amoral", and "psychocult" (Violation of WP:NPOV)

03:24, 1 November 2005 DaveRight reverts with the edit summary "I think that deserves some punishment." (violation of WP:Point)

17:13, 12 November 2005 HeadleyDown removes a critic of NLP's opinion from the criticism section ("Jan Damen describes NLP as occult"), rewords it to passive tense so the source (Jan Damen) is not mentioned and the opinion is presented more as fact, and then reinserts it into the pro-NLP section, making it look as if a pro-NLP source describes NLP as "occult". (Violation of WP:NPOV)

06:58, 23 September 2005 HeadleyDown modifies the first sentence of the introduction to say "(NLP) is a quasi-spiritual behavior-modification technique", where the term "quasi-spiritual" is clearly POV, disputed, and biased. (Violation of WP:NPOV)

02:52, 25 October 2005 JPLogan modifies the first sentence of the entire NLP article to say "NLP is a pseudoscientific self help development", where the term "pseudoscientific" is clearly POV, disputed, and biased. (Violation of WP:NPOV)

Statement by party Voice of All

While I don't believe that arbitration is the best option for now, I would say that the placement of ((test3)) and ((test4)) signs, accuations of extreme POV, and use of alternate names is likely occuring on both sides here. An IP check on all of the users would be well appretiated, as duplicates can be banned, leaving only the true users. This will removed inflated edit wars and vote tallies/consensus.

I would note however, that I had already recommended that people edit one section at a time. The blanket reverts were mainly of edits to multiple sections. One the other hand, too much anti-NLP criticism has been going into the article recently, under the idea that it is a fact or he did actually say this; article's can not have every single fact about the topic, they must be streamlined, and some sort of balance between truth and representation of all POVs must be reached.Voice of All 00:20, 15 November 2005 (UTC)

Statement by party (name 5)

(Please limit your statement to 500 words)

Arbitrators' opinion on hearing this matter (1/0/0/0)

User:Johnski et al.

Pages: Dominion of Melchizedek, Bokak Atoll, Solkope, etc.

Involved parties

Complainants:

Against:

Brief summary: On going vandalism with pages associated with Dominion of Melchizedek by user Johnski and his sockpuppets. This has been going on for over four months.

Confirmation that all parties are aware of the request: Plantiffs: User:Centauri , User:Gene Poole , User:Jdavidb , User:Calton, User:shocktm , User:El C , User:Dejvid, User:Samboy

Defendants:User:Johnski , User:KAJ , User:SamuelSpade (Note: This user has been blocked as a sock puppet), User:Wiki-Facts , User:Rriter .

Confirmation that other steps in dispute resolution have been tried:

On November 3rd, I requested this case be mediated and posted in on the appropriate page. The request for mediation was declined by User:Sam Korn and he stated that he didn’t feel mediation was likely to be useful.

I was disappointed and asked Sam Korn what other method he thought would be useful. He stated RFC would be a better option. The problem with this is however, is we have tried to RFC this article in the past. Also, because one user is responsible for reverting the articles in question multiple times with multiple user names, the process would only be manipulated and abused by this person by voting as many times as he saw fit to.

Statement by User:Davidpdx (on behalf of all complainants)

There is an ongoing revert war with Johnski, who has reverted the article Dominion of Melchizedek, 60+ times in the last two months. Johnski has been reverting these pages without consensus for over four months.

Johnski is strongly believed to be an active member of Dominion of Melchizedek, as he possesses an intimate familiarity with details of court cases and other historical matters pertaining to it that few, if any, outsiders would be privy to. As a primary source and should not be contributing to any articles on this subject, in accordance with Misplaced Pages general editing principles.

He has violated the 3RR rule numerous times. To justify his reverts, he claims that his version has consensus, and that the prior version is biased. He has also used numerous sock puppets to revert the above page, and to introduce Melchizedek-related promotional content into many other articles as well, including: Bokak Atoll, Karitane Shoal, Solkope, Rotuma, Clipperton Island, Antarctica, Micronation, Fictional country, Bible, Melchizedek, Melchizedekian, Ecclesiastical state and David Even Pedley.

When challenged by other editors Johnski selectively quotes media reports out of context in order to put a positive spin on consistently extremely negative reportage about Melchizedek. He consistently seeks to insert these out-of-context quotations into the above articles to provide what he alleges is "balanced" reportage, and has attempted to delete quotations which show Melchizedek in a negative light.

Johnski does not follow the rules of Misplaced Pages and frankly changes them in order to push his own agenda. Additionally, his presumed association with a group known for defrauding people in many parts of the world of millions of dollars is a negative reflection on Misplaced Pages, and should be curtailed.

The specific allegations being made are as follows:

Allegation #1: Adding statements that are POV without providing proof in terms of his claims and deleting claims he disagrees with and making dishonest statements. In terms of area (size of the country), Johnski makes the assertion that DOM claims the entire earth, while not providing evidence of this claim. When he edits the page, he is careful to remove any criticisms of DOM and/or change statements to minimize frauds that have been committed by the people involved.

Allegation #2: Reverting Dominion of Melchizedek, Bokak Atoll and other articles without consensus.

Allegation #3: Inability to show good faith and follow the rules of Misplaced Pages. Posts information on talk page, then proceeds to revert the page and leaves the following message, “refer to talk page and before reverting see if you can't find something you can keep in your next revision.” Johnski has made many statements about Misplaced Pages rules which are false and misleading. He also has made assertions that seven to ten people support his version of the article.

Allegation #4: Misquoting sources to push POV edits. Misquoting Washington Post Article, Johnski claimed it said “dubious” when the article claimed DOM was in fact a “ruse.” Misquoting the United States U.S. Comptroller of the Currency claiming that because a document refers to Melchizedek as a "non-recognized sovereignty" and make it appear that the US is giving defacto recongniztion, when that is clearly not the case.

Allegation #5: Harassment-Mainly creating an article on Misplaced Pages called Wikilante to criticize those he disagrees with. The article itself was tagged Speedy Deletion, then recreated and deleted and protected so that he could not recreate it. User:Sjakkalle in the edit summary that the page was stated, “Recreated after speedy deletion, created by a disgruntled user.” Davidpdx 22:49, November 13, 2005

I would like to restate again, my allegation in terms of sockpuppets being used. So far, one user name has been blocked. I am working to try to find out any details why, but I would appreciate it if the arbitration committee would look into this, instead of mearly discarding the possiblity of this being true.
For the record, I am not the "ringleader" of this group, which implies I'm putting pressure on other people to come forward. There are many other people that have a problem with the editing done by Johnski other then myself. Johnski would like you to believe that it is purely a matter between him and I, but this isn't true. Davidpdx 04:27, 15 November 2005 (UTC)

Statement by User:Samboy

The issues I see here is that

  • A single editor is trying to impose his changes on articles against the wishes against multiple other editors.
  • This editor is using sockpuppets as part of his effort to make these changes

As per point one, he keeps trying to add Dominion of Melchizedek content to a number of articles about geographic locations whose only relation to DOM is the fact that DOM has claimed that they own the land in question. Here are some recent edits in just one article: .

The user is also being dishonest; he is using multiple accounts. You can see above the three different accounts making the exact same DOM- related changes: User:Johnski, User:KAJ, and User:SamuelSpade. You can see that these accounts have, by and large, have only made a relatively small number of edits, almost all DOM related: Jonski contributions KAJ contributions SamuelSpade contributions. In particular, in all cases, the first edit for these accounts was DOM-related. This is a clear case of using sockpuppet accounts.

When a single editor goes against the wishes of multiple other editors, and uses sockpuppets towards this end, disclipinary action becomes necessary. Samboy 20:37, 13 November 2005 (UTC)

Statement by User:Gene Poole

I believe that Johnski is using multiple accounts to give the appearance that more than one editor supports his actions in adding heavily pro-"Melchizedek" spin to as many artticles as he can possibly find in Misplaced Pages that have the slightest tangential relationship to what is in reality a micronation entity that has been widely condemned for being used as a vehicle for the conduct of criminal activities throughout the world.

It is telling that Johnski, SamuelSpade, KAJ and the various other anonymous IPs who have edited in favour of "Melchizededk" focus wholly and solely on the exact same group of articles, from their first edit, and appear to edit in sustained bursts of activity. None of these editors have made any other substantive contribution to Misplaced Pages beyond their edits to "Melchizedek"-related articles.

It is my personal belief that Johnski is probably the current "president" of Melchizedek, as he has a familiarity with this subject, and with the minutiae of court cases and other legal proceedings and historic events that no outsider would (a) be aware of, and (b) be so obsessively interested in. While his involvement in Melchizedek does not preclude him from contributing to this article, he has consistently failed to conform with the principles of evidence, NPOV and good faith - particularly in repeatedly trying to "spin" negative statements into positive ones by selectively misquoting media reports critical of "Melchizedek".

In doing so he has, in my opinion, forfeited the right to further participation in the Misplaced Pages community. --Gene_poole 01:53, 15 November 2005 (UTC)

Statement by User:Jdavidb

Samboy effectively speaks for me; his summary of this situation is the best, I think.

WP:SOCK states "Neither a sockpuppet nor a brand-new, single-purpose account holder is a member of the Misplaced Pages community." Sockpuppetry per se is not at all a big deal to me, and in fact in the past I've been one to push on other disputes for less attention to be given to that in favor of other charges. In this case, though, whether we are dealing with sockpuppets or meatpuppets, it's clear we are looking at "single-purpose account"s. This has made it impossible to try to push for real consensus to be built on what these articles should or should not say, since all these new single-purpose accounts try to involve themselves in the consensus.

Jdavidb (talk • contribs) 18:43, 15 November 2005 (UTC)

Statement by Johnski

Hello Kelly Martin, if you could help edit this article taking into consideration mine and others efforts to reduce the bias, and bring more balance, that could end the edit war.

I'll borrow from what I read on another subject as it says it better than I could write myself:

Davidpdx, their ringleader, has not made any contribution to any topic regarding this subject, other than Solkope. As soon as Samboy challenged him for that, he removed the content that Isotope23, KAJ and himself worked hard to reach consensus on. In some instances they have continued their POV approach on DOM to the detriment of other pages too. In essense, they have acted as POV warriors with a single viewpoint who have proven unable or uninterested in the wiki approach or policies, and have little interest in anything beyond their own view. (eg, only show negative aspects of Dominion of Melchizedek, and ignore anything else the press or governemnt web sites have put forth. Fundamentally they do not seem to show the slightest ability or care for collaborating in a wiki manner. Indeed their idea of collaboration is insults and ignoring or dismissal of issues, often with personal attacks and remarks.

Here are some problems encountered:

  • factual suppression
  • Repeated deletion of sourced material or cited fact about the subject by reputable authors, government web sites, often followed by addition of more POV material.
  • Personal attacks
  • Ignoring of requests to discuss edits
  • Changing the words "you get the feeling" to "probably" when quoting the Washington Post, as one example.

When Davidpdx was first given the idea for mediation he took it as a threat, and was told that arbitration would be necessary if he didn't accept mediation. Finally he grabbed the ball and ran with it.

I've only used one of the IP addresses Davidpdx listed above, and I have no sockpuppets. I've offered to disclose my IP address, if he first agrees to disclose his after I disclose mine, but he will not comply. Made the same offer to a few others listed above. None have accepted.

I am not a Melchizedekian nor am I a member of the Pedley family. I am a Christian Scientist. I know that Jdavidb is at odds with my faith. The only thing I've been asking for is that the article become fair, balanced and factual. I've backed up every fact, and only tried to quote exactly from articles, government web sites, but that is not permitted by Davidpdx.

I created the article Wikilante as a sincere attempt to describe the vigilante behavior of Davidpdx, and told him that I'm sorry if he thought I was taunting him, and paid him a compliment for his efforts since he apparently is sincere as are vigilantes. I didn't try to create that article again after I realized that an administrator had deleted it a second time, and didn't know it was blocked.

Davidpdx claims that I didn't show anywhere that DOM claims earth, which shows he doesn't read my talk as I had just posted a link to the CBS article that stated that Melchizedek unofficially claims the entire earth, and claims Jerusalem as its homeland. Please take a look and see for yourself.

I tried hard to work for compromise with Davidpdx but it turned out he was only playing games with me, and had no such intention, which is evidenced from his lack of making any compromise on the main DOM article, but only finding reason not to compromise, having nothing to do with the facts, but only having to do with issues of my not following his idea of the rules, my being stupid, and being on LSD. I've never used LSD and although a slow learner, I doubt that I am stupid. And I have tried my best to follow the wiki rules as I slowly learn those rules.

I'm happy to get into all of the details of the efforts for a better article, but you can easily figure it out by looking at my last version compared to the one before it, and taking a look at the last talk page on DOM as of this date. Sincerely, Johnski 20:56, 13 November 2005 (UTC)

(Moved from below section --] 21:02, 13 November 2005 (UTC))

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The IPs are widely geographically disparate. In most cases, one of the usernames uses just one or two of the IPs. (I'll mark these later.) I don't think it's all one person; the pattern is similar to that of agents of an organisation acting together, but I'd need to look closely at the editing style before saying it looks like that. More as I work out what on earth is going on here - David Gerard 11:04, 15 November 2005 (UTC)

Out of fairness, you might want to check to see if there is any sockpuppetry from Davidpdx's side of this arbitration request, because I remember reading somewhere that Centauri is a sock-puppet of Gene_polle. Johnski 22:45, 15 November 2005 (UTC)

Arbitrators' opinions on hearing this matter (3/1/0/0)

TDC and 165.247.200.100

Confirmations

Awareness

Other steps

Statement by User:Travb

Since October 21, 2005 I have been involved with the page Winter Soldier Investigation. This page has been protected 9 times in ten months, once since I have been invovled with the page. Currently, User:TDC and anon have been the major players in revert wars. But other minor players have been recently involved with the editing of the page. The page has 421 deleted edits , I beleive many from User:Duk.

I attempted to set up a criticism section (which anon deletes full paragraphs from) and TDC is hooked on weaselwords, refusing to allow the word "testimony" to appear in the article. Neither wants to backdown or comprimise. Both are involved in retracted edit wars. Travb 04:32, 9 November 2005 (UTC)

  • TDC: TDC has been booted 13 times for similar revert wars . See also Requests for comment/TDC-2, Requests for comment/TDC

He starts revert wars like the recent revert war on Winter Soldier Investigation on several pages, and was recently warned again by Tony Sidaway on 5 November 2005 Misplaced Pages:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents

FIRST revert war: Because of a FIRST revert war on Winter Soldier Investigation, which TDC started over long quotes, I erased many of the "superfluous use of direct quotations" (the reason why User:TDC erased many of the quotes) and moved them to wikiquote. This did not satisfy TDC.

SECOND war: TDC found a new, SECOND war. TDC and Duk then attempted to get the complete article Winter Soldier Investigation (along with Vietnam Veterans Against the War at the same time erased for a "copyright violation" for no more than a maximum of 6 isolated sentences that could be considered "copyright violations" in a 9 page article. I footnoted many of the copyright violations. AGAIN this did not satisfy TDC. User:Ed_Poor began to write the article from scratch, he even complained to User:Duk that "The first 4 paragraphs, having been written largely by me, can not posibly be considered a copyright violation.".(Earlier Copyvio banner) I stopped this attempt to rewrite the entire article by User:Ed_Poor with the participation of User:Sasquatch by filing a Mediation request. User:Sasquatch and User:Ed_Poor changed the few sentences. User:Sasquatch protected the article on request of User:TDC and User:Tony_Sidaway unlocked it a few days later.

THIRD revert war: TDC began a new THIRD revert war, this time over the word "testimony", which he did not want anywhere in the article, and other weaselwords such as "claimed", "alleged". TDC refuses to allow the word "testimony" to be in the article, and continues to revert back. I reported TDC to 3RR but there wasn't enough times to get him booted.

  • Anon: Anon is the other revert war participant. The opposite of TDC, he allows very little information critical of Winter Soldier Investigation to stay on the wikipage. Deleted link critical to WSI and two paragraphs critical of WSI

I suggested spliting the article into a pro and con section, with a commitment from both parties that the other person only edit that section, but Anon refused.

TDC reported Anon to 3RR. I initially supported Anon, then realized Anon was as guilty of revert wars and deleting information that does not support his ideology, just as TDC does. I then retracted my support for Anon too on the 3RR page.


Conclusion: Incredibly all three of these revert wars perpetuated by TDC have only been since October 21, a space of 20 days. While you are at it, maybe you can arbitrate Vietnam Veterans Against the War with the same perps and the same issues. Please help. (I hope I did this right, this is my first Requests for arbitration.)

Request for injunction

I suggest that:

Statement by User:TDC

Contrary to the allegations made by Stevertigo and Travb, this is not an attempt to have the article erased or to have a certain POV dominate it, only to clear up glaring NPOV issues, remove copyvios and plagiarism and improve the quality of the article. Let me repeat that for some of the editors who are questioning my motives : THIS IS NOT AN ATTEMPT TO HAVE THE ARTICLE ERASED OR TO HAVE A CERTAIN POV DOMINATE IT.

The problem with using so much cut and paste, as has been more than well documented, is that the information is plagiarized from sources overly sympathetic to the VVAW (including the VVAW’s own website) and the WSI. The inclusion of this information in its current form fundamentally alters the NOPV of the article. Why some editors cannot see this is beyond me. Would we allow an article on GW Bush to be comprised almost entirely of press briefings from the White House? Would we allow an article about PETA to consist primarily of quotes from PETA friendly sources? That’s all I am asking for here.

I think that a history lesson on the article might be in order. The anon began contributing to this article sometime in July of 2004. He has had a pretty consistent tactic. He takes out any information he disagrees with, places it in talk and begins an never ending argument of either the validity of the information, or the relevance to the article. Almost as soon as he began contributing to the article, editors began to draw attention to his use of plagiarized material . Just in case any of you missed that, I was not the first editor to argue that the Anon’s use of plagiarized material was skewing the POV of the article. The anon then protects his edits using never ending and deceptively labeled Rv’s. Since he is using an EarthLink IP, he cannot be blocked, no matter how flagrant his violation is (he had 15rv’s in one day on another article), giving him impunity from any form of sanctions on his behavior.

I know Travb has accused me of instigating an edit war over this article, and he is partially right. There currently exists an edit war over this article, but I fail to see how I am chiefly responsible for it. Where other editors have given up in frustration, I refuse to drop the issue and walk away from the article. Some might say I am being a POV warrior here, I call it diligence. The talk page has 1 current page and three archived pages full of lengthy discussions that have not solved a damn thing. The plagiarized material still finds its way into the article and any information the anon is uncomfortable with finds its way out. One section, 540 words, is nothing more than a lengthy quote from a VVAW friendly author.

I have said before that I would abide by whatever decision is made. Not only do you have my promise, but you can sanction me if I don’t. Good luck getting the anon to do likewise. TDC 17:09, 12 November 2005 (UTC)

I just wanted to add, what I think is one of the best examples of the Anon's deceptive editing and plagarism:

New York Times explained that he found nothing newsworthy to report because "this stuff happens in all wars." There were a smattering of articles sympathetic to the veterans in the underground press; and Pacifica Radio, with major channels on both coasts, devoted to a pacifist, left-wing perspective on current events, gave them excellent coverage. The CBS television crew that showed up were themselves deeply impressed, but none of their footage made it to the nightly news. source

from the WSI Misplaced Pages article

The local field reporter for the "New York Times," Jerry M. Flint, commented with disinterest, "this stuff happens in all wars." In a February 7, 1971 article he wrote that "much of what they said had been reported or televised before, even from Vietnam. What was different here was the number of veterans present." Several of the VVAW representatives speculated that there was an "official censorship blackout," and they would express this theory later in their newsletter. A few articles that were sympathetic to the veterans appeared in lesser-known publications, and Pacifica Radio, known for its left-wing perspective, gave the event considerable coverage. The CBS television crew that showed up were impressed, but only three minutes made it to the nightly news on the first night -- three minutes that were "mostly irrelevant to the subject," according to VVAW.

Instead of rewriting and crediting the information, the anon has simply rearranged a few sentences and changed significant factual portions of the plagiarized work, i.e: but none of their footage made it to the nightly news as has been changed to only three minutes made it to the nightly news on the first night. I mean which one is it? The source that the material was clearly ripped off from states something completely different. And I am bieng singled out for bad faith edits? TDC 17:15, 12 November 2005 (UTC)

One more quick point (last one): If there weren’t users like me to balance out blatant POV's in far too many articles to count, it wouldn’t get done. TDC 23:41, 15 November 2005 (UTC)

Statement by User:165.247.200.100

Please limit your statement to 500 words (more soon)

Statement by User:Calton

I am only peripherally involved, but I would like to add one item to User:Travb's account above, which convinced me of bad faith being involved in the "Second Edit War" above: namely that when User:Ed Poor began writing a new article , his initial from scratch version was blanked 31 minutes later by User:Duk on grounds of being a "copyvio". --Calton | Talk 05:58, 9 November 2005 (UTC)

Statement by User:Duk

Calton is flat out wrong here. This diff shows that Ed did not re-write the article from scratch. The version I tagged after Ed's edits had copyvios that were initially identified at Talk:Winter_Soldier_Investigation/Archive3#Copyvio_and_derivatives.2C_again, with more and more being noted on the talk page as they were uncovered. Many of these copyvios originated more than a year earlier and kept sneaking back into the article after an earlier copyvio revert. They included copied text and derivative work.

This article had large amounts of copied work in it for over a year that was eventually morphed (in August I think), so that the copied paragraphs weren't exact copies. There were still copied sentences, clauses and paragraph structure, however, and the article was never reverted to the pre-copivio version before the morphing. It was therefor a derivative work copyvio. I resolved the copyvio after a long listing on WP:CP by reverting to the pre-copyvio version. Later, the copied and derivative work kept sneaking back into the article, resulting in my tagging the page and at one time protecting it to keep the copyvio tag on.

For example; take the phrase that an entire regiment of the Third Marines had penetrated several miles into that neutral nation. It was from a paragraph that was added to the page as a copyvio from bigmagic.com, sometime before this version, more than a year ago. It was removed when I resolved the copyvio by reverting to this version, and reappeared again, resulting the the copyvio tagging that Carlton mentions above. This phrase by itself isn't much, rather, its the numerous other examples of copied text that were identified in the article's talk page (a bunch more were identified over the following weeks). Also, look at the derivative writing around the directly copied parts.

I've been called a lot of nasty names over this copyvio by people who think I have a political agenda, to which I reply that I have resolved thousands of copyvios but have almost no politically oriented edits (if anyone cares to look). Also, the harshest comments seem to come people who haven't taken the time to look closely at the article's history.

As for Travb's complaint over the deleted history, I did that per advice from the administrators noticeboard. --Duk 02:50, 10 November 2005 (UTC)

On reflection, a half hour later after adding Duk, I have removed Duk as a central person in the arbitration. Duk, see your talk page.Travb 03:48, 11 November 2005 (UTC)
  • I agree with Tony (below), TDC's behavior has been pretty bad. And I'd like to add that this behavior is responsible, in part, for the many editors and admins discounting TDC's identification of copied and derived text, assuming instead that it was another one of his stunts. However, as bad as TDC's behavior has been, the EarthLink IP's behavior has been much, much worse. Intentionally introducing plagiarism and copyright violations from slanted, POV sources in order to advance their own POV. Then, when the copyvios are uncovered, morphing them into slightly different derivative works which are also copyright violations, just harder to catch. And doing all this while editing under different IPs to remain untouchable for behavior that they know is wrong. So far, the EarthLink IPs have completely gotten away with it. --Duk 16:41, 13 November 2005 (UTC)

Statement by User:Stevertigo

User:TDC has been a consistent and active foe and violator of Wikipedias NPOV policy in controversial areas and topics such as this one. He should be banned from editing any and all controversial topics related to U.S. military conflict. As stated above he has been consistent in using revert wars, policy and process rules (copyviolation, protection, 3RR, etc.) to POV war against the very existence of an article. How the Arbcom has managed to avoid banning him until now should be taken as evidence of the need for WP:DRR. -St|eve 01:14, 11 November 2005 (UTC)

Statement by User:Tony Sidaway

This seems to be a case of an editor deliberately choosing to treat Misplaced Pages as a battleground. I have tried to rein back the edit warring. TDC sometimes goes for the better part of a week apparently going down his watchlist and doing reverts. A month or two ago I blocked TDC for a couple of days, and more recently I admonished him, and he seemed to get the point and stop. Although others are involved, when TDC stops the warring stops. Past experience leads me to the expectation that he will simply wait until my attention is elsewhere and resume. 08:53, 12 November 2005 (UTC)


Arbitrators' opinions on hearing this matter (4/0/0/0)

Joshuaschroeder

Involved parties

Confirmation that all parties are aware of the request

I have placed a notification on Joshuaschroeder's talk page

Confirmation that other steps in dispute resolution have been tried

Statement by Iantresman (Talk)

I feel that contributions from User:Joshuaschroeder in the articles above, may contravene certain Misplaced Pages policies, such as exhibiting a non-neutral point of view, and indirect personal attacks. For example:

  1. Despite surviving a Misplaced Pages:Votes_for_deletion/Electric_Universe_model at 06:45, 20 July 2005 (UTC), Joshuaschroeder attempts to delete and redirect the page elsewhere, six hours later at 12:09, 20 July 2005 (History)
  2. Having added information to the page on Redshift on "Causes" and "Neutrino redshift", (History) both with peer reviewed references, Joshuaschroeder removes them both and comments in Talk:Redshift in the section Variable particle mass theory, that "This article should not be a dumpster for any huckster's fanciful suggestions". The implication that peer-reviewed scientists are "huckster's" I consider a personal slur, and the dismissal of peer-reviewed referenced information to be point of view.
  3. In the discussion on Talk:Plasma_cosmology, on 14:25, 1 November 2005, Joshuaschroeder writes that "Until you understand the basic difference between comparison and explanatory theory, there is no reason to continue this discussion.", which makes it difficult to discuss matters.
  4. On the Plasma cosmology page on 12:20, 26 October 2005, Joshuaschroeder adds the Pseudoscience tag (History). As a science developed by Nobel Prize winner Hannes Alfvén and by other scientists shown at the bottom of the page, I consider the Pseudoscience tag to be quite insulting, and a personal attack.
  5. I feel that further comments by Joshuaschroeder demean the article on Plasma Cosmology, see my comments "Deeply troubled with Joshuaschroeder" (8 Nov 2005) , and hence are not neutral points of view.
  6. In Talk:Plasma_cosmology a contribution "Eric Lerner's criticism" (6 Nov) from plasma cosmologist Eric Lerner, also suggests that "Joshua Schroeder, has devoted a vast amount of time to vandalizing entries on plasma cosmology", which if true, is against Misplaced Pages policy.
  7. In Talk:Redshift Joshuaschroeder has refused to allow certain types of redshift to be added to the page, claiming the article is about a specific kind of redshift. This is not a neutral point of view. The discussion on the "Wolf Effect" provides detail.
  8. In Redshift, Joshuaschroeder adds a comment (15:31, 9 October 2005) about other kinds of redshift, suggesting that "These are frequency-dependent effects", when I have provide three peer-reviewed reference indicating that is not always the case, and I have mentioned in Talk:Redshift that I have had my facts checked by some of the authors. In this respect Joshuaschroeder is contradicting peer-reviewed scientists, and hence it is not a neutral point of view.
  9. In Electric Universe history on 19:47, 13 October 2005, Joshuaschroeder comments that "there is no way that the Electric Universe corresponds to an interdisciplinary approach since most proponents are not in any discipline". Despite being over-general, he is implying that none of the proponents are educated in any discipline, or have belonged to an education establishment? Either way, this is a personal attack and against Misplaced Pages policy. It's also inaccurate. Despite the subject being based on astronomy, physics, history, rock art (which I consider being interdisciplinary), the History section in the Electric_Universe_(concept) article clearly specifies proponents' disciplines.

Statement by Joshuaschroeder (Talk)

User:Iantresman has not gone through the traditional channels of trying to resolve this dispute and instead has appealed directly to arbitration. I do not object to his desire to resolve the conflict, but I do think that this is a bit premature. I spend much of my time trying to work with editors on a number of these articles who are not overly familiar with science and consequently make fairly poor contributions to particular articles. User:Iantresman is one such editor who has a tendency to add material that is either poorly researched, poorly worded, or out-of-place. He doesn't like having his edits removed and I think this is the true basis for his RfA. Joshuaschroeder 12:21, 9 November 2005 (UTC)

Arbitrators' opinions on hearing this matter (0/3/0/0)

Ben

Involved parties

Confirmation that all parties are aware of the request
  • FeloniousMonk has been informed.
  • RoyBoy has been informed.
  • Duncharris has been informed.
Confirmation that other steps in dispute resolution have been tried

Ben has spoken with administrators Ryan Delaney | talk and SlimVirgin | talk regarding the problem. Ben also filed an article RFC regarding the content of the article which did not prove fruitful. FeloniousMonk has informed Ben that he will not participate in a Request for comment regarding his conduct. .

Addendum: Please compare this with FeloniousMonk's personal statement later in this RfArb: "I'm not going to waste too time responding to this because Benapgar has failed to seek any other form of resolving this dispute first, jumping straight to arbitration." Ben 11:03, 7 November 2005 (UTC)
Addendum: Please also note that FeloniousMonk's RfC against Ben was filed 18 minutes after Ben initially filed this RfArb. --Ben 23:47, 8 November 2005 (UTC)

Statement by Ben | talk

FeloniousMonk is an administrator who edits and participates in the discussion page of the article Intelligent Design|talk. The user is currently involved in a dispute with Ben regarding the knowledge structure of the topic and the characterization of the current article. Ben's comments were initially hostile towards the structure of the article, saying the article was "horrible." While inappropriate, this opinion regarding the article is not unique to Ben . FeloniousMonk's response was off-topic and dismissive of Ben's concerns. Ben then modified two sentences in the disambiguation paragraph to what he believed more accurately reflected the nature of the article and which was helpful. FeloniousMonk quickly reverted this change without explanation, violating revert policy Subsequently Ben has been explaining his views and position . FeloniousMonk's responses are off-topic and dismissive and do not adequately address Ben's position in the slightest. The majority of his responses consist only of his opinion without explanation, for example simply stating a change is "inaccurate and POV" and generally acting contrary to assume good faith policy. Ben also believes FeloniousMonk is using his networks as administrator to further obstruct Ben's and other potential editors' contributions .

Ben's position regarding the article content is that as the topic is presented and defined, the article violates No personal essays policy.

Ben asserts FeloniousMonk is conciously and repeatedly obstructing Ben's and other editors' ability to contribute and as such is violating ownership of articles policy and assume good faith policy.

Many other users also have strong concerns about the article and about FeloniousMonk's conduct and violations of ownership policy. FeloniousMonk has even claimed that "new editors edit this article all the time," however in a week's period the changes are not substantial though the article averages 15-20 edits/day and the discussion page 40-50 edits/day.

On November 5, 2005, FeloniousMonk used his administration privileges to block Ben for inserting into the introduction, almost verbatim, FeloniousMonk's own assertion regarding the factual accuracy of the introduction .

RoyBoy is an administrator and has violated civility policy and troll policy by engaging with contributors on the Intelligent Design talk page whose comments served no purpose other than to insult the contributors to the article. Both RoyBoy and FeloniousMonk used this as an opportunity to insult the user. Later RoyBoy generally made offensive comments regarding creationists . When confronted about his actions he said "LOL, yeah that's my favorite" in reference to what he called his "joke." Later he said "I'd concur its needless to improving the article, but that's not the end all be all of a discussion page. Of course if you had enough experience to be an admin; you'd stand a good chance of understanding that."

Duncharris is an administrator and has violated civility policy by referring to Ben as "a lowly troll." Duncharris was not involved in any way with the dispute on the Intelligent Design talk page and showed up solely to make this comment. Duncharris subsequently reverted without comment a contribution by Ben on the Coingate article. The reversion was entirely unnecessary and inaccurate. Duncharris had previously not contributed to that page. Ben asserts this is a case of intimidation and harassment. Ben further believes that Duncharris' actions were a result of communication with RoyBoy or FeloniousMonk with an intent to harass. Ben also is concerned that an earlier case of vandalism on a similar page may be related .

Statement by FeloniousMonk | talk

I'm not going to waste too time responding to this because Benapgar has failed to seek any other form of resolving this dispute first, jumping straight to arbitration. Needless to say, there is a user conduct RFC I have filed on Benapgar's chronically disruptive behavior, Misplaced Pages:Requests_for_comment/Benapgar, and my comments on the trouble Benapgar has been causing for the last two weeks of personal attacks and disruptive refusal to accept consensus can be found there. FeloniousMonk 00:43, 6 November 2005 (UTC)

Statement by RoyBoy | talk

My first RfAr, I'm in the big leagues now. Ben has a habit of taking things out of context and attempting to read my mind in order to prove something and/or silence/bully me by making baseless/opinionated allegations and then calling for my resignation. On top of that he seems to think he can beat us over the head with WikiPolicy. Which makes me inclined to not like him; and I hope WikiPolicy has some sort of mechanism with which to send a message even Ben can't ignore; that Ben's not only in the wrong, but is going about it the wrong way. In summation; repeated attempts to read my mind, motivations, actions indicates to me – that as of now – Ben is not suited for Misplaced Pages. <--- 131 words, not too shabby! - RoyBoy 22:27, 5 November 2005 (UTC)

Statement by Dunc | talk

Ben is a lowly troll, as can be seen by his trolling at talk:intelligent design and indeed this frivilous complaint. He is the latest in the long line of religiously-inspired creationist POV warriors to try to tell us that there are POV problems with the articles on evolution or intelligent design because they follow the policy at WP:NPOV#pseudoscience:

represent the majority (scientific) view as the majority view and the minority (sometimes pseudoscientific) view as the minority view

A lot of work has gone into these articles to make them NPOV on a tricky subject. (Yet again) A newbie turns up and wants to completely rewrite it. Yet he does not understand the (admitedly quite complex) motivations and subtleties of ID, for example drifting into theology, and cannot provide a scientific theory of creationism.

Yet irritated that he's not got his way he's throwing his rattle out of his pram and complaining that there is a cabal. This RFA is simply another escalation in a childish harassment campaign. I can hardly believe that I am being forced to respond to this trolling, and anyone just needs to look at his RFC to see how unreasonable this chap is being.

I reverted his coingate since I believe he can't be trusted, though that whole article is a mess and he really couldn't've made it any worse! I have no interest or knowledge on that subject, and reverting him may have been an error on my part, but he's just nitpicking and his own record speaks for itself.

I really have found this little episode quite amusing and for the record would like to say that I am not intimidated in any way by this pathetic individual. Dunc| 22:40, 5 November 2005 (UTC)

Arbitrators' opinions on hearing this matter (2/4/0/0)



Requests for Clarification

The Bogdanov Affair case, recently closed

There are a few outstanding issues which I would be most grateful if the Committee would please clarify for me regarding the status of the accounts which were banned under the former temporary injunction. Since I was requested by Fred to make the various blocks on the temporary injunction, it means I have been receiving the e-mail dialogue from the parties wishing to be unbanned, and as a consequence of the recent closing of the case a few have written to me asking to be unbanned. My queries are as follows:

  1. The final remedy decided upon by the Committee has been that the various Bogdanov Affair participants are indefinitely banned from the article itself. The previous temporary injunction was that they were banned indefinitely from Misplaced Pages; since this has now been replaced with only an article editing ban, does this mean all of those users are now entitled to edit Misplaced Pages, and thus should be unblocked?
  2. A specific user, XAL (talk · contribs) was initially banned by Fred prior to the passing of the injunction, although she is named in it. If the above is true, that is the users should now be unblocked, should XAL also be unblocked or is she a special case due to Fred's direct involvement?
  3. Also, XAL has never edited the article, but has only been involved in the talk page. She has never edited the Bogdanov Affair article itself; there are a number of other users like this. Does this mean they fall outside of the purview of the enforcement decision? That is, is the ban from editing the article to be taken to also refer to the talk page? If not, we shall have to suffer a repeat of the whole talk page débâcle once again, since the users currently indefinitely blocked from editing shall be able to legitimately edit the talk page, and thus we may end up with yet another arbcom case about their talk page editing.
  4. Regarding the decision on enforcement: "Any user banned from editing Bogdanov Affair who nevertheless edits it, may be briefly banned from Misplaced Pages entirely, up to a week in the case of repeat offenses, and after the 5th offense, up to a year." Since it was I who set the blocks, it must likewise be my duty to unset them. Also, others have indefinitely blocked a multitude of sockpuppets of Igor Bogdanov. Does that mean that I must go through the contributions of all of the users who have been indefinitely blocked, change those bans on users with 5 offenses or more to a year's ban, and unban the rest? (since, after all, they have been blocked for longer than 1 week). Also, this decision is liable to give rise to a whole load of Bogdanov sockpuppets that are discarded after they have been used for 5 offenses. If this really is what the admins involved must do, this would be a most laborious task considering the vast numbers of sockpuppets used.
  5. No decision has been made regarding the page protection. The present scenario of having to revert changes, and protect the article regularly, due to banned users editing is most unsatisfactory. Undoubtedly, the article will need to be protected more often as a result of the above enforcement decision, since we shall not be able to block sockpuppets solely on the basis of name or after having made only a few edits which blatantly disclaim who is operating the account.

I am most grateful for the Committee's work on this matter, and would appreciate an expeditious response since I have been receiving some consternation from various blocked users via e-mail. Best regards, --NicholasTurnbull | (talk) 02:52, 12 November 2005 (UTC)

Unblock anyone who is blocked but who has not been trying to edit the article. Those who you are sure have been trying to edit the article during the injunction, need not be unblocked. Please don't unblock XAL. I'll try to help you with this tomorrow. Fred Bauder 04:47, 12 November 2005 (UTC)

I don't think you are responsible for this mess. You only need to unblock folks when you have time. Fred Bauder 05:06, 12 November 2005 (UTC)

User:Rex071404

Per this page, , and it's advice to bring issue's pertaining to enforcement of a previous arbitration ruling to the RfAr, this information has been posted here.

Recently, Rex has been causing a lot of trouble at John Kerry. He has consistently edit-warred and has forced the page into protection Twice while at the same time violating 3RR Twice . The issue is the same exact one that has been brought up in previous ArbComm hearing's: John Kerry's 1st Purple Heart. In fact Rex talks about that in his opening statement in his first ArbComm hearing. . Numerous people have attempted to dialog with Rex regarding this, so much so, that the discussion now occupies 6 archive spaces and approximately 700 kb worth of talk not including the current talkpage. A vote was recently attempted to try and close the discussion. Even after that, Rex continued to push his POV, which resulted in the page being protected for the second time.

My question is this, do the Remedies, Enforcements and Judgements from previous Arbitrations still apply to this case? Or have they all expired as Rex claims they have? Do the three previous arbitration cases and two previous RfCs which involved this same exact issue; John Kerry's 1st Purple Heart; constitute an attempt at other methods of dispute resolution? Does the community need to go through a 4th Arbitration Case against Rex over the same issue? Or is there a "Requesting Enforcement of Previous Arbitration Ruling" template that I am missing? -- Mr. Tibbs 20:55, 12 November 2005 (UTC)

May I back up Mr Tibbs's intervention here. Rex has reduced the John Kerry page to chaos with endless nitpicking rows (Does a wounded man have a 'wound'? Is a bandage necessarily made of cloth? Medical definitions ad nausuam, a list of 50 'issues' he wants discussed, which actually boil down to five repeated in different ways over and over again, etc.) Rex's antics have alienated people who tried to be fair to him and listened to his endless raising of the same issues over and over and over and over, or rather his agreeing something, moving on, then returning back to square one 48 hours later and starting the argument all over again. The article and talk pages are right now unusable and will remain so until until Rex's antics are dealt with and ended. FearÉIREANN\ 21:40, 12 November 2005 (UTC)

I'll throw in my own voice here. Though Rex is technically more polite than he was before the previous RfArs, he is doing exactly the same thing: obsessively focusing on doing whatever he can to make sure that John Kerry is not elected President in 2004. --jpgordon∇∆∇∆ 22:34, 12 November 2005 (UTC)

Except for those parts of the decision with explicit sunset provisions (remedies 3, 4, and enforcement 3, 4) the decision is still in full force. →Raul654 23:01, 12 November 2005 (UTC)
Well, he's learned a few things from his self-imposed exile (which I think ArbCom was foolish to accept): he's learned how to be obnoxious without crossing the bounds established in the arbcom cases. He hasn't learned how not to obsess, though. --jpgordon∇∆∇∆ 23:42, 12 November 2005 (UTC)
Not sure about that. He is not supposed to revert, so instead he takes changes people made and puts in stuff he's put in 20 times before. So it's not literally a revert, but it basically is a revert. --Woohookitty 04:41, 13 November 2005 (UTC)

The key question is, whose job is it to enforce the rulings that he is continuing, with more cunning and subtlety this time, to break? All that seems to happen is that an edit war breaks out, the page is protected and some well meaning admin (who hasn't time to read the 'War and Peace'-size archives) suggests that the issues be discussed first rather than edit warring. Everyone tells them that we have listened and talked and discussed and voted repeatedly and that the problem is that Rex ignores it all and goes back to the start and begins the whole charade again, and again, and again ad infinitum. Nobody seems able to actually know the ruling and enforce it, so the page and talk page ends up stuck in a timewarp of Rex's let start again for the nth time edits, with rows, edit war, protection, unprotection, 'please all communicate', Rex's epistles, rows, edit war, protection . . . etc. People need help (or free Misplaced Pages Valium!) FearÉIREANN\ 05:26, 13 November 2005 (UTC)

  • Other than the question Jtdirl brought up, there are still Many unanswered questions in this Request for Clarification. Such as Does the community need to go through a 4th Arbitration Case with Rex over the same issue, or is it possible to just have the remedies from previous ArbComm's enforced? Because they currently aren't being enforced. Rex's two recent 3RR violations were completely ignored. Raul's answer brings up new questions too. First we hear: "Except for those parts of the decision with explicit sunset provisions (remedies 3, 4, and enforcement 3, 4) the decision is still in full force." But then later we hear: "It appears that enforcement #7 (the penalty related to reverting articles) is in relation to remedy 4.1 (the prohibition on reverting articles). As such, it appears that enforcement 7 expired when 4.1 did." So which is it? Is Enforcement 7 being given special consideration after the earlier "sunset provision" statement? Was there a typo in the original Arbitration Committee decision? Given the importance of these questions, are there other Arbitrators who could weigh in here? -- Mr. Tibbs 16:57, 13 November 2005 (UTC)
The decision is still in full force, except for those parts that have expired (remedies 3, 4, and enforcement 3, 4, 7). My original list on this page should have included 7, but I somehow glanced over it. →Raul654 21:04, 13 November 2005 (UTC)

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