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Halibutt

Requests_for_adminship/Halibutt|action=edit}} Vote here (8/0/1) ending 05:47 0600, 23 November (UTC)

Halibutt (talk · contribs) – I have worked with Halibutt on Wiki for close to two years now and he has always been a reliable, friendly editor. He is one of our most active editors, contributor of countless articles, images and even voice samples, founder or co-founder of several WikiProjects and a person I respect and fully trust. Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus 05:47, 16 November 2005 (UTC)

Candidate, please indicate acceptance of the nomination here: I accept the nomination. Thank you, Piotrus. Halibutt 07:19, 16 November 2005 (UTC)

Support

1. Strong support. I am proud to be the first to support Halibutt. On the issues with which we have interacted, I have seen him act as the mediator on a number of difficult topics, in addition to his skills as a researcher and map creator. Even when we have disagreed (as has happened occasionally) I have found him to be both reasonable and persuasive, and have learned a lot from his points. A great candidate for a mop. --Goodoldpolonius2 06:11, 16 November 2005 (UTC)
2. Support, as above. logologist 06:28, 16 November 2005 (UTC)
3. Cue I thought he was an admin support! I've never had the opportunity to interact with him, but I've been impressed with many of his edits. Should make a really good admin! SoLando (Talk) 07:58, 16 November 2005 (UTC)
4. Support.  Grue  08:21, 16 November 2005 (UTC)
5. Support Geoff/Gsl 08:59, 16 November 2005 (UTC)
6. Strong Support File:Poland flag large.png. Misplaced Pages potrzebuje więcej zdolnych biało-czerwonych adminów. - File:Poland flag large.png Darwinek 10:45, 16 November 2005 (UTC)

   Oh yeah? Well, so's your mother! So there! — JIP | Talk 10:49, 16 November 2005 (UTC)

   No need to list it at WP:PNT :) It's basically Misplaced Pages needs more of talented, red-and-white admins. Halibutt

7. Support, seems harmless enough. — JIP | Talk 10:49, 16 November 2005 (UTC)
8. Support Seems like he would make a good admin --Rogerd 13:23, 16 November 2005 (UTC)

Oppose

1. Sorry, but I don't think Halibutt is reading for adminship. He is a fierce Polish nationalist who takes pleasure in gratitiously bullying Russian editors. His Russophobic sentiments are too well known to enlarge upon it there. Just two days ago he declared that "if he speaks Russian, drinks vodka and sings Katyusha - he's a Russian" (see Talk:Russophobia). I don't think it's a proper way of admin's behavior. No need for further comments. --Ghirlandajo 14:04, 16 November 2005 (UTC)

Neutral

1. Neutral. I had a quick look at your contributions, and I think that they are extensive and show a high degree of commitment to Misplaced Pages. Also, your discussion at WP:FPC is always reasoned well. However, I'm a little disappointed in your continued use of the {{support}} template at FPC despite its deletion, your previous ignorance of the speedy deletion rules and the continued recreation of the aforementioned template (see Template talk:Support). I would also suggest using the edit summaries a little more. Enochlau 09:07, 16 November 2005 (UTC)

Comments

• Like Enochlau, I remember not being very impressed with your actions at Template:Support. You recteated it 6 times until it was replaced with {{deletedpage}}, called ChrisO and the other admins that deleted it vandals, and revert warred at FPC when others took the template out of your comments. That was about two weeks ago. Anything to say about this? Dmcdevit·t 09:38, 16 November 2005 (UTC)

I agree that I was a tad enraged by the fact that, instead of replying to my comments at the respective talk page, where I explained why I believed the matter should be re-discussed, people simply deleted the page without any explanation. Fortunately the talk page is still there for all to see my arguments and... well, frankly speaking no opposing arguments. Finally, take note that during his recent RfA process Cryptic admitted that he overreacted in this case and that he assumed my bad will without looking at the talk page - which was the real problem here IMO. I consider that incident unfortunate, especially that so far I received no explanation whatsoever. Also, please take note that the article was blocked with the template after I asked for admin support in resolution of the conflict. While I don't find this resolution satisfactory and I still consider the question open to discussion, the recent deletion review pretty much ended the problem. As to my usage of the template that was under attack by people ignoring the talk page - it was not my mistake as there was no rule prohibiting the use of a non-existent template. I'd rather say it was a mistake of an admin who forgot to add the <includeonly> and <noinclude> tags, which is why the {{deletedpage}} page was visible, which was not my intention. Halibutt 11:02, 16 November 2005 (UTC)

• Hmm, I re-read the answers you wrote down below and I'm a little perplexed by this: "Also, for me being an admin is not so much different from being an average Wikipedian". If so, why would you like to become an administrator? Enochlau 10:09, 16 November 2005 (UTC)

Note that Jimbo says pretty much the same: This should be no big deal :) There are two reasons mainly. Firstly, being listed as one of the admins attracts attention of people who seek help. And I love to be helpful. Secondly, broom and bucket make your life easier when dealing with all sorts of things you do in wikipedia. For instance, one of the first long articles I prepared, the one on my home town, is frequently under attack by an anonymous user who adds a large number of links to advertisement sites. Reverting the page 4 times in a row and then asking some other person for help might be a funny relay race, but it takes a lot of time and efforts. Admins can do it much faster. Halibutt 11:02, 16 November 2005 (UTC)

Questions for the candidate
A few generic questions to provide guidance for voters:

1. What sysop chores, if any, would you anticipate helping with? Please check out Category:Misplaced Pages backlog, and read the page about administrators and the administrators' reading list.

A. Firstly, I must say that I always had a problem with the difference between cleanup and expansion, as for me the easiest way to clean some article up is to expand it significantly, then wikify and add as much data as I can. For me WP:CU and WP:RFE are simply two sides of the same coin and I'm equally interested in both. BTW, the same works for other problem tags. Some time ago I noticed that many (if not most) {{NPOV}} problems are due to insufficient explanation of certain problems or phenomena. So, most articles can be NPOVed by means of expansion. Also, for me being an admin is not so much different from being an average Wikipedian in that most of us revert vandalism on the spot, either through RC patrol or watchlists. Halibutt 07:16, 16 November 2005 (UTC)

2. Of your articles or contributions to Misplaced Pages, are there any about which you are particularly pleased, and why?

A. Some of the articles I contributed to got featured but I must admit that I'm particularly proud of the Warsaw Uprising series. For me that article encompasses all the virtues of a good Misplaced Pages article: it was prepared by a large group of people from all parts of the world, it is well-sourced, as balanced as it gets, has lots of great pictures (both historical and modern), few red links and one would not find such an article in a paper encyclopedia. Halibutt

3. Have you been in any conflicts over editing in the past or do you feel other users have caused you stress? How have you dealt with it and how will you deal with it in the future?

A. Of course I've been in conflicts over various topics. Misplaced Pages is a very special place where various people and various, often conflicting views meet. It is always painful to learn that one's truth is not the only one out there and that what is obvious to me might not be as obvious to others. However, I learnt (the hard way, I admit) that a compromise can always be reached, except perhaps for very rare cases where one of the sides is not willing to accept it. As to dealing with stress - a deep breath always helps. Halibutt