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Wiel Arets
Wiel Arets (Heerlen, 14 mei 1955) is a Dutch architect. He graduated from the TU Eindhoven in 1983. In the following year he started his own firm, Wiel Arets architect & associates, in Heerlen. He prefers simple and abstract compositions. His palet is very sparse and he prefers black and white (including for his own clothes; he usually dresses in black).
His main claim to fame is his design for the Academie voor Beeldende Kunsten in Maastricht; his design for the Universiteitsbibliotheek in Utrecht is also praised. With Jo Coenen he collaborated in the restauration of the glaspaleis in his birthplace Heerlen, and designed a number of pharmacies (?) in the south of the Netherlands. In Hapert he designed a complete Medisch Centrum (Oude Provinciale weg 81/Lindenstraat Hapert). The form language of neo-modernisme is combined with an abstract, placid aesthetic. His favorite building material is the glass brick.
Awards
In 2005, Wiel Arets received the BNA-Kubus, the oldest award for architecture in the Netherlands. The jury appreciated the remarkable quality of his work and praises his extraordinary contribution to architecture. The Kubus is awarded annually since 1965; previous winners include Herman Hertzberger, Wim Quist, Jo Coenen, Jo van den Broek, Benthem Crouwel and Hubert-Jan Henket, and Wessel de Jonge.
Also in 2005 Arets received the Rietveldprijs for his design for the Universiteitsbibliotheek on De Uithof in Utrecht, which came with a check for 7500 euro. The Stichting Rietveldprijs awards the prize every other year to an architect who builds a remarkable building in Utrecht. Past winners include Koen van Velsen, Mart van Schijndel, and Rem Koolhaas.
References
This apparently has something to do with a thread on this page...
- Signing so this will be archived. Gracias Drmies for translation. Although the pharmacies issue makes me wonder whether you are really Dutch? ChildofMidnight (talk) 02:33, 13 February 2009 (UTC)
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Thanks for the note
Hey, anyone who has has a dog on their user page can't be all bad .. lol. My pic isn't my real dog though, just one that someone left me. I'm guessing that Moopsy is your real life buddy. My real life pooch (Mocha) actually is closer to your pup than my pic - she's part springer spaniel, maybe some pointer and beagle thrown in. Ya just gotta love those long ears ... lol. Well, glad to see that you keep such a positive perspective on everything, and we'll get ya those tools the next time around. Keep editing, stay happy, and keep to the high-road. Cheers. — Ched : ? 23:32, 26 April 2009 (UTC)
- Someone put Moopsy up on my page. He/she seems to be a lot more popular than I am ;) A fine looking hound. Probably an excellent hunter. ChildofMidnight (talk) 05:21, 27 April 2009 (UTC)
- LMAO - we must have an "adopt-a-pet" editor in our community - or maybe "adopt-a-VIRTUAL-pet" would be more accurate. Mine doesn't look like he'd do much more than slobber all over ya! lol. — Ched : ? 14:33, 27 April 2009 (UTC)
Help?
Hi CoM and page-watchers, please see this article on a fascinating individual. I would be grateful if you could find additional facts and sources and/or expand the article based on the sources already identified. Thanks! Bongomatic 13:52, 27 April 2009 (UTC)
RfA
Sorry the RfA closed before I got a chance to weigh in, I had a busy weekend, and it was open for less than 12 hours. I think that you will benefit from some of the Constructive criticism, I think you would make a great admin and I look forward to your next run. --kelapstick (talk) 16:09, 27 April 2009 (UTC)
- Cutting my RfA short was the only way they could stop me. The momentum was clearly starting to shift, and fearing a tidal wave of supports, they chose to stop the process all together. They barely gave me a chance. How typical! Thanks for you note, except the part about constructive criticism. That has no place here. Cheers. ChildofMidnight (talk) 17:48, 27 April 2009 (UTC)
- You are right, you would probably be better off heeding the unconstructive criticism instead. --kelapstick (talk) 18:05, 27 April 2009 (UTC)
- Now you're talking! ChildofMidnight (talk) 18:06, 27 April 2009 (UTC)
- You are right, you would probably be better off heeding the unconstructive criticism instead. --kelapstick (talk) 18:05, 27 April 2009 (UTC)
- Cutting my RfA short was the only way they could stop me. The momentum was clearly starting to shift, and fearing a tidal wave of supports, they chose to stop the process all together. They barely gave me a chance. How typical! Thanks for you note, except the part about constructive criticism. That has no place here. Cheers. ChildofMidnight (talk) 17:48, 27 April 2009 (UTC)
- Hi CoM
- My views on the RfA (should you care):
- Quite unfortunate that it closed in such a short time, especially over a weekend. As per the reasoning behind expanding AfD discussions to seven days, there are different audiences during different days.
- A couple of editors really covered themselves in inglory with their comments.
- Many of the opinions were predictable.
- Administratorship is neither a privilege nor an honor—it's a volunteer position granted by the community based on consensus. One reasonable basis for individual editors in formulating their opinions is the desire to avoid "drama" (for lack of a better term), and that it is legitimate to factor in the predictable actions of other editors—even if predictably immature, outside of policy, inconsistent with guideline, and lacking Wikiquette—when assessing the amount of drama likely to be created.
- It is worth commenting on the number editors who "opposed" your RfA who praised your contributions to the project.
- The most frequent concerns (and those ventured by the least polarized of the opposers) were edit-warring, POV pushing and not adequately addressing talk page comments / following consensus. There is very little in these areas that is black and white, and my recommendation is to make sure that for every edit you make (whether in article or talk space) where you think dissent is possible as to whether you are edit-warring, pushing POV, or flouting consensus, you look at the record of diffs from the perspective of a cautious consensus-freak evaluating your edits for your next RfA (from personal experience, I know this is hard when other editors do exasperating things). For what its worth, I think that approach is recommended even if you never intend to try again for Admin.
- Notwithstanding problems you may have had in this area before, fighting for neutrality and/or balance in ledes and elsewhere in articles—even difficult ones—is a worthy cause. As long as you keep the above bullet point in mind, I hope you continue editing in this vein.
- Keep up the good work, and take the advice from the chorus of U2's "Acrobat". Bongomatic 16:40, 27 April 2009 (UTC)
- "And you can swallow, or you can spit, you can throw it up or choke on it."? :)
- Or: "I know you'd hit out if, you only knew who to it?"
- Or maybe: "And I'd join the movement if there was one I could believe in."
- And then there's: "Yeah I'd break bread and wine, if there was a church I could receive in. Cause I need it now. To drink the cup. Fill it up. To drink it slow. Can't let you go. I must be an acrobat to talk like this and act like that"
- And: "You can dream so dream out loud."
- Or maybe "You know that your time is coming round. So don't let the bastards grind you down"? Oh that's the one. :) Isn't that a personal attack? Can you refer to bobbleheads and windbags as bastards using song lyrics? ChildofMidnight (talk) 17:05, 27 April 2009 (UTC)
- You know that Bono is a commie, right? and that in another song from that album he throws in weird stuff like "Did you come to race the dead" and "Have you come here to play Jesus to the leopards in your head?" I mean, that makes no sense at all. A head full of carnivores? Drmies (talk) 18:34, 27 April 2009 (UTC)
- Sadly, many otherwise intelligent people seem unable to fathom that handouts do no good and are often counterproductive to expanding opportunities and improving standards of living. But something not working, is rarely enough to stop someone from keeping at it. Marx wrote some good fiction and had a real command of drama and gravitas. He just didn't have any grip on reality. ChildofMidnight (talk) 18:55, 27 April 2009 (UTC)
- You're barking up the wrong tree: I love handouts, as much as the big three do. Now where's my money? Drmies (talk) 20:03, 27 April 2009 (UTC)
- There are "editors" on here who will read your comments and fail to appreciate the irony and sarcasm. These humorless animals will sink your RfA. They won't even get that you're actually quite an ardent socialist. They have such a deep seated fear of anyone who sees the world differently than they do, that they won't dare allow you to be given any authority. You're just not safe enough my
friendacquaintance who happens to inhabit the same neighborhood on Misplaced Pages. There will also be many who will find some little smudge in your record where you didn't kowtow properly or dot your I with enough enthusiasm, and didn't use the proper justification for crossing a T. But I still think it's interesting to go through the process, unless you have a thin skin and need to be loved and appreciated. You can always comfort yourself with bacon and booze. And I've been known to be wrong on very rare and exceptional occasions. But that's my prediction. There's one path to adminship, as far as I can tell, and I don't think you've taken the proper route.ChildofMidnight (talk) 20:14, 27 April 2009 (UTC)
- There are "editors" on here who will read your comments and fail to appreciate the irony and sarcasm. These humorless animals will sink your RfA. They won't even get that you're actually quite an ardent socialist. They have such a deep seated fear of anyone who sees the world differently than they do, that they won't dare allow you to be given any authority. You're just not safe enough my
- You're barking up the wrong tree: I love handouts, as much as the big three do. Now where's my money? Drmies (talk) 20:03, 27 April 2009 (UTC)
- Sadly, many otherwise intelligent people seem unable to fathom that handouts do no good and are often counterproductive to expanding opportunities and improving standards of living. But something not working, is rarely enough to stop someone from keeping at it. Marx wrote some good fiction and had a real command of drama and gravitas. He just didn't have any grip on reality. ChildofMidnight (talk) 18:55, 27 April 2009 (UTC)
- You know that Bono is a commie, right? and that in another song from that album he throws in weird stuff like "Did you come to race the dead" and "Have you come here to play Jesus to the leopards in your head?" I mean, that makes no sense at all. A head full of carnivores? Drmies (talk) 18:34, 27 April 2009 (UTC)
haha, i feel good now...
...that I've cleaned up a section of the biscuit article: see Biscuit#Beaten_biscuits. Drmies (talk) 18:28, 27 April 2009 (UTC)
Buom buom
I have never heard of that. Is it real or just something new the Vietnamese have concocted to keep Westerners on their toes? Badagnani (talk) 18:29, 27 April 2009 (UTC)
Ah, you were able to get the diacritics. Badagnani (talk) 18:32, 27 April 2009 (UTC)
Misplaced Pages:Articles for deletion/Arda Vandella Collins
Did a proper WP:BEFORE without the less used middle name. Got to disagree with you big time at this one. Schmidt, 20:58, 27 April 2009 (UTC)
- You work on these marginal characters and yet my main man Warren Miller (director), whose work has inspired even Mies, Dr. to pursue dreams of film narrating, remains so pitifully neglected. Also, isn't 12 children an awful lot? I didn't realize you had an article until just recently. That's very cool. Anything exciting going on up there in LA? I hit Joan's recently and it was great, but it's quite a fuss to get served and find a seat on a Saturday. Where do you hang out? ChildofMidnight (talk) 21:05, 27 April 2009 (UTC)
- Oops. Wrong Collins. Sorry Arda V. Collins is not Arda Collins (another sadly neglected article about a notable and award winning author). And with your gentle hint, I will look in at Warren Miller (director). Schmidt, 21:11, 27 April 2009 (UTC)
Present for you
Here it is: a new signature:
Bongomatic 02:33, 28 April 2009 (UTC)
- very nice Bongo, very nice.kelapstick (talk) 03:04, 28 April 2009 (UTC)
- Wow! Now that's getting back some of the ole talk page magic...I'll leave a note in the appropriate place. Drmies (talk) 03:44, 28 April 2009 (UTC)
- Interesting ChildofMidnight 23:22, 28 April 2009 (UTC)
- Good point—I did miss out a lot of places people who interact with you need to go. Bongomatic 00:43, 29 April 2009 (UTC)
- Interesting ChildofMidnight 23:22, 28 April 2009 (UTC)
- Wow! Now that's getting back some of the ole talk page magic...I'll leave a note in the appropriate place. Drmies (talk) 03:44, 28 April 2009 (UTC)
User talk:ChildofMidnight/talk/talk
And this for your perusal. Drmies (talk) 18:54, 28 April 2009 (UTC)
- And thanks for Death Organ. That's really moderately exciting, and I worked on the article some. Just because it's not notable doesn't mean it shouldn't look clean! Drmies (talk) 19:15, 28 April 2009 (UTC)
porn?
Here's a fun diff: . Drmies (talk) 21:13, 28 April 2009 (UTC)
- Stick to wholesome fare . Two out of the three include bacon, and one's down there in your neck of the woods. ChildofMidnight (talk) 23:12, 28 April 2009 (UTC)
Horror film genre-specifc reliable sources
If you have time, I'd appreciate your looking in at Horror film genre-specifc reliable sources and either comment, advise, or contribute. I think something like this should have been done a while ago so as to help stop the bickering at AfDs. I might set it as an essay. What thinkest thou?
Yeah but how do you really feel?
Interesting suggestion, I am guessing that tact isn't their strong suit.--kelapstick (talk) 22:40, 29 April 2009 (UTC)
- That list is fairly awesome. Drmies is actually considered the godmother of Dutch rock! ChildofMidnight (talk) 23:17, 29 April 2009 (UTC)
- Haha, and as it happens I am in a TERRIFIC mood today since I've been listening to the Godfather of Soul in the car--baby baby baby! I just noticed that the Occult Bookkeeper had changed that redirect to point to the honorific article, and I changed it back to JB. That was the right move, wasn't it? And BTW CoM, thanks, but that's too much honor. That title goes to Herman Brood, and I'll find (or fabricate) the reference to prove it. Drmies (talk) 14:43, 30 April 2009 (UTC)
Slight concern
Dear ChildofMidnight
Reading some of your comments at Misplaced Pages:Articles for deletion/2009 New York City airplane scare I am concerned you have got the wrong impression of me. You have said "you're misapplying a policy", and "Flying airforce one around to take picture five days after Earth Day was wasteful and thoughtless, it caused panic and fear among tens or hundreds of thousands of people, but you're not interested". I do not feel I am being given the good-faith assumption I deserve. I am not out on a crusade to delete the article and will stop at nothing. I just feel the flyover isn't notable enough to warrant an article, that's all, and I believe so strongly in that that yes I will argue strongly, but not to the extent that I lose my impartiality. I hope this clears things up, and thank you for reading. Please feel free to direct me any inquiries. Cordovao (talk) 00:34, 30 April 2009 (UTC)
- Thanks for the note Cordovao. Don't be concerned. If you read the policy it's quite clear. "Routine news coverage of such things as announcements, sports, and tabloid journalism are not sufficient basis for an article." This isn't a tabloid story or an announcement and it has loads of reliable sources with substantial covareage. So there's no ambiguity. If in the future it's determined that it wasn't in fact notable, which seems unlikely, we can always delete it. ChildofMidnight (talk) 03:58, 30 April 2009 (UTC)
- You're welcome. I assure you I have read the guideline multiple times, and have cited "Misplaced Pages considers the historical notability of persons and events." I agree it isn't a tabloid story, but I still do not think it passes muster in terms of historical notability. Anyway, thank you for your response, and I hope we can co-operate effectively in future. Cordovao (talk) 10:11, 30 April 2009 (UTC)
DYK for Stone Creek Jamboree
On April 30, 2009, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Stone Creek Jamboree, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page. |
rʨanaɢ /contribs 04:58, 30 April 2009 (UTC)
- Wow CoM, you did it again--made a DYK out of nothing! Congrats! (And by "nothing" I mean here the hunch that something is interesting. WP can use such curiosity.) Your partner in crime and part-time tag-along, Drmies (talk) 14:34, 30 April 2009 (UTC)
Biker poetry
I hope I didn't mess up posting like this, but I wanted to ask you a question... I've been working on “Biker poetry” and noticed that you have been keeping an eye on it and making some minor, but good changes. I've been in the process of posting references and would like to know what it will take to get that notice at the top of the page removed that say's the page has no references and could be challenged and removed? I continue to work on credible references almost daily. I've read the requirements and I think I now have the article at the point where it meets the standards and stands on its own merit. Could you offer some insight? Thanks, Akbikerpoet —Preceding unsigned comment added by Akbikerpoet (talk • contribs) 06:25, 30 April 2009 (UTC)
Thanks
Cool Beans! Thanks for pointing out where I needed some citations, I really do appreciate it. I put the ones in that you pointed out and will continue to look for more. I think my biggest problem is my familiarity with the subject, so much I just know and consider common knowledge, thanks. You are a very big help in all this. Unfortunately this will be the last night I will have to spend a lot of time on this for quit a while. I was hoping to get the article substantially standing on it’s own by now. I have deliberately left the tag at the top of the page stating that more citations are needed in the hope that others would join in the editing of the page. A few have, but not with the type of citations and quotes needed to make this a viable document. I thank you for the attention you have given this project. Later, Akbikerpoet —Preceding unsigned comment added by Akbikerpoet (talk • contribs) 07:46, 1 May 2009 (UTC)
New DYK?
I have the hook ready, but I need to expand Long Wong's (now there's a double entendre for you) and Dead Hot Workshop...--kelapstick (talk) 22:26, 30 April 2009 (UTC) Looks like I am getting Long Wong's on to the main page on my own, what do you think of this hook?
Dead Hot Workshop
- ... that Dead Hot Workshop got their start at a Tempe club named Long Wong's, where bands such as the Gin Blossoms and The Refreshments also performed in the 1990s?
Created by Kelapstick (talk). Self nom at 15:59, 1 May 2009 (UTC)
- Dead Hot Workshop – Kelapstick (give) (tag)
--kelapstick (talk) 15:59, 1 May 2009 (UTC)
- Looks great--esp. if you know any of these bands, haha. (I'm old school--I'm listening to Roy Buchanan and have been working on his article.) Good luck! Drmies (talk) 17:36, 1 May 2009 (UTC)
- I know The Refreshments (not personally), they are pretty awesome, and I know some songs by the Gin Blossoms as they are the most popular. In one of the Refreshments songs on Fizzy Fuzzy Big & Buzzy they say "We could all wear ripped up cloths and pretend we were Dead Hot Workshop", that is where I heard of them, I don't know anything they sing...--kelapstick (talk) 17:40, 1 May 2009 (UTC)
- I think Long Swong is funnier than Long Wong's, but that's just me...
While we're on the topic, did you know...
Five Tango Sensations
- ... that Five Tango Sensations by the Kronos Quartet was the last studio recording by tango legend Ástor Piazzolla?
Created by Drmies (talk). Self nom at 19:04, 1 May 2009 (UTC)
- Five Tango Sensations – Drmies (give) (tag)
And did you know...
- ... that Terry Riley: Cadenza on the Night Plain is the first record to result from the long and fruitful collaboration between American composer Terry Riley and the Kronos Quartet?
Created by Drmies (talk). Self nom at 19:12, 1 May 2009 (UTC)
Yeah, Child, the Kronos Quartet, baby! It won't flip-flop on you! Drmies (talk) 19:37, 1 May 2009 (UTC)
- Hey Child, do you really think they'd fall over that? Anyone who knows tango knows that...yeah, verifiability, not truth, I know. But did you click to his article? That lead says it all. I dunno, I'm going to let it stand for now, out of deference to him. You know I saw him, twice, in the Netherlands--it was amazing. But thanks for the suggestion, and we'll see what the folks at DYK think. Oh, did you see Blofeld's proposed DYK? ... that in 2001, Dutch musician and artist Herman Brood committed suicide by jumping from the roof of the Amsterdam Hilton Hotel? Ha! Drmies (talk) 23:12, 1 May 2009 (UTC)
- I always like something random in DYK hooks so people can learn something. I've never heard of that instrument. Would he be a legend or legendary? No difference? I saw the other hook and I wanted to put the date at the end: that Dutch musician and artist Herman Brood committed suicide by jumping from the roof of the Amsterdam Hilton Hotel in 2001? Good articles and hooks though. Cheers. ChildofMidnight (talk) 23:21, 1 May 2009 (UTC)
- If you aren't learning something, why would it be in as a DYK? It would be a "You know".--kelapstick (talk) 23:24, 1 May 2009 (UTC)
- ...You know that Kelapstick is planning to bum around the house again this weekend. ChildofMidnight (talk) 23:34, 1 May 2009 (UTC)
- Or chasing a two year old (who just learned to colour on the coffee table) around the house, it is also hard to update using my iPod, which is what I use for the internet at home these days. Oh and I will be looking at houses on Saturday, looks like we might be moving a little closer to Reno. --kelapstick (talk) 23:37, 1 May 2009 (UTC)
- ...You know that someone has stirred controversy with a massive multi-nom hook at DYK for April 25? Reno seems to be pretty happening. Some good mountain biking up there too. Go Wolfpack? ChildofMidnight (talk) 23:42, 1 May 2009 (UTC)
- Wow, that's awesome. I think they should dedicate the whole DYK update to that. Reno is pretty nice, I am staying at Harrah's next Friday, my dad came down for a visit and will fly out the next day, so we are catching an Aces game the night before. I hope to make it to a few Wolfpack games this fall, I was on the field the other day at a charity walk.--kelapstick (talk) 23:48, 1 May 2009 (UTC)
- Whoa, that was amazing. That should make the main page just for sheer effort. And I only had to read it twice to get the grammar! (But I've had a few cocktails.) You know what's funny--this afternoon I was thinking about nominating a dab page for DYK, and got to thinking about what would be involved with that. Hey, so you noticed the Herman Brood Hook? Big-time Blofeld found the Dutch connection also, and after the Amsterdam Hilton Hotel now turned his attention to creating stubs for every single Dutch movie ever made. Woohoo! Drmies (talk) 00:19, 2 May 2009 (UTC)
- ...You know that someone has stirred controversy with a massive multi-nom hook at DYK for April 25? Reno seems to be pretty happening. Some good mountain biking up there too. Go Wolfpack? ChildofMidnight (talk) 23:42, 1 May 2009 (UTC)
- Or chasing a two year old (who just learned to colour on the coffee table) around the house, it is also hard to update using my iPod, which is what I use for the internet at home these days. Oh and I will be looking at houses on Saturday, looks like we might be moving a little closer to Reno. --kelapstick (talk) 23:37, 1 May 2009 (UTC)
- ...You know that Kelapstick is planning to bum around the house again this weekend. ChildofMidnight (talk) 23:34, 1 May 2009 (UTC)
- If you aren't learning something, why would it be in as a DYK? It would be a "You know".--kelapstick (talk) 23:24, 1 May 2009 (UTC)
- I always like something random in DYK hooks so people can learn something. I've never heard of that instrument. Would he be a legend or legendary? No difference? I saw the other hook and I wanted to put the date at the end: that Dutch musician and artist Herman Brood committed suicide by jumping from the roof of the Amsterdam Hilton Hotel in 2001? Good articles and hooks though. Cheers. ChildofMidnight (talk) 23:21, 1 May 2009 (UTC)
Have you tried the beverage in question?
Otherwise I can't see how you're qualified to say whether it does or does not taste like urine. 98.238.188.211 (talk) 05:15, 2 May 2009 (UTC)
- Good point. Except that content is based on citations to reliable sources, and a popular soda that tastes like urine seems highly unlikely. ChildofMidnight (talk) 05:17, 2 May 2009 (UTC)
- Can you provide me with a source stating that it tastes like bubblegum? 98.238.188.211 (talk) 05:20, 2 May 2009 (UTC)
- Also, compare http://en.wikipedia.org/File:Bottle_and_glass_of_inca_kola.jpg to http://en.wikipedia.org/File:Weewee.JPG Notice something? 98.238.188.211 (talk) 05:21, 2 May 2009 (UTC)
- Amazon.com's product description . Also, ingredients are sweeteners, so it stand to reason it tastes sweet rather than acidic like urine. There's also , puts it in cream soda category, ChildofMidnight (talk) 05:26, 2 May 2009 (UTC)
- If and when those plans go forward I think a Cow urine soda article would be a great addition. As far as the urine like color of cream sodas, I think there are descriptions that are less negatively associated. ChildofMidnight (talk) 05:33, 2 May 2009 (UTC)
- CoM, if you have a minute, come by my place and have some Inca Kola...there's plenty of room! Drmies (talk) 02:13, 3 May 2009 (UTC)
- I look forward to reading (not drinking) cow urine soda.kelapstick (talk) 02:17, 3 May 2009 (UTC)
- I believe I should smite this IP for blasphemy against the sacred Inca Kola. LOL. bibliomaniac15 03:59, 3 May 2009 (UTC)
- I look forward to reading (not drinking) cow urine soda.kelapstick (talk) 02:17, 3 May 2009 (UTC)
DYK for Steamed clams
On May 3, 2009, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Steamed clams, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page. |
thx Victuallers (talk) 15:21, 3 May 2009 (UTC)
St. Dunstan Elementary School
Hi there. Please remember that A7 explicitely excludes schools as a subject it can be applied to. Regards SoWhy 08:00, 5 May 2009 (UTC)