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Thank you...

Thank you for your support

Unfortunately, my RFA was closed recently with a final tally of 75½/38/10. Though it didn't succeed, I wanted to thank you for your support and I hope I can count on it in the future. Even though it didn't pass, it had a nearly 2 to 1 ratio of support and I am quite encouraged by those results. I intend to review the support, oppose, and neutral !votes and see what I can do to address those concerns that were brought up and resubmit in a few months. If you would like to assist in my betterment and/or co-nominate me in the future, please let me know on my talk page. Special thanks go to Schmidt, , TomStar81, and henrik for their co-nominations and support. — BQZip01 —

Brooklyln accent

I put the speedy deletion template in Brooklyln accent since it's obviously a typo and there already exists a redirect for the correctly spelled Brooklyn accent. Why did you remove it? Jms2000 (talk) 22:27, 21 May 2009 (UTC)

I've deleted it under criterion 3 of Misplaced Pages:Criteria for speedy deletion#Redirects as it's not a likely typo. Even if someone does search for "Brooklyln accent" New York dialect is at the top of the list of results. I presume FT misread what the title of the page was, I did initially. Nev1 (talk) 22:31, 21 May 2009 (UTC)

Redirects from typos are useful too. Redirects are cheap, so why not? --Apoc2400 (talk) 22:33, 21 May 2009 (UTC)

In this particular case keeping it would be A Bad Thing because the alphabetization code of the MediaWiki software would mean someone typing "Brookly…" into the search bar would see the mis-spelling in the popup-list before Brooklyn itself. – iridescent 22:36, 21 May 2009 (UTC)

(ec) Because it's not an especially likely typo, and doesn't get much traffic (I suspect most of that is from bots etc). Nor is it necessary when "New York dialect (redirect Brooklyn accent)" is the first result that comes up when you search for "Brooklyln accent". If you feel it's worthwhile I suggest you reinstate it and perhaps add a few more such as Brookklyn accent, Brookylyn accent, etc. Nev1 (talk) 22:39, 21 May 2009 (UTC)

Your leave

I would just like to state that I'm totally in agreement with Roux. I hope after a cooling off period (for everyone here), you'll seriously reconsider coming back. I hope this situation serves as an example to the community of what such harassment towards one editor can lead to; a loss of a valuable contributor.

You've handled everything these past few weeks with honest answers and general cooperativeness. That's all we could ask of you. To Central California, Killiondude (talk) 22:37, 21 May 2009 (UTC)

Please, think about this. — neuro 22:47, 21 May 2009 (UTC)

cheers!

–Juliancolton |  has bought you a pint! Sharing a pint is a great way to bond with other editors after a day of hard work. Spread the WikiLove by buying someone else a pint, whether it be someone with whom you have collaborated or had disagreements. Cheers!

You've behaved commendably throughout this ordeal, and I, like others, sincerely hope you return with your head clear and your chin up. You have loads of support here—from friends and complete strangers alike. –Juliancolton |  23:07, 21 May 2009 (UTC)

Julian manages to express it perfectly (he often does). While the allegations and the mistakes you made are grave, the way you tried to keep a cool head for so long while the community around you went berserk is commendable. I, too, hope you will return once you feel ready to. Regards SoWhy 08:29, 22 May 2009 (UTC)

Good luck

I'm sorry to hear that you're leaving us, at least for a while. For what its worth, even though I didn't !vote in your RfA, I still think its a raw deal that you're getting. You should not have been treated like this. All the best to you, and I hope to see you activate soon, once the drama clears. Firestorm 23:08, 21 May 2009 (UTC)

Your break

You said I'm leaving partially because I think this community needs to heal and redefine itself, and that needs to happen without me. Well, take a break and in the near future if you feel up to the task maybe you can help redefine the wiki. Just don't let what happened stop you from returning. Synergy 23:11, 21 May 2009 (UTC)

Sorry

I was shocked and saddened when I heard about your "semi retirement". You're not an editor with whom I've had many interactions since we seem to have varied interests but, from your reputation, your RfA and from what I learned from other editors and whatnot, you were (are) an asset to the project. Shit happens, but I really hope you'll pick yourself up and rejoin us in the not too distant future. Kind regards, HJMitchell You rang? 00:00, 22 May 2009 (UTC)

Be well

Take as much time as you need to focus on what is valuable to you, and always remember that you are welcome here. Pastor Theo (talk) 00:42, 22 May 2009 (UTC)

Your semi-retirement

Hi FT. While we have never directly engaged in dialogue, I've seen your hard work against vandalism, and I truly believe that you would have made a great administrator, hence my immediate support of your RfA. If it makes a difference, I agree with several of the other editors in that the way you were treated was unjust. From the beginning, I truly believe it was a witch hunt. You were given minimal time to defend yourself before succumbing to the calls to give up your adminship. I stand as one of the editors that watched in horror as this situation escalated, eventually forcing you to retire from editing. While i remain seriously disappointed with the wikipedia community, I want you to know that you still have friends among the editors, and that we support you now, more than ever, after the way you handled this situation. Thanks, Ono (talk) 02:44, 22 May 2009 (UTC)

I couldn't agree more with what Ono has said, Misplaced Pages will be something less without you editing here, Spitfire 04:13, 22 May 2009 (UTC)

I agree as well. I never interacted with you personally, but I've seen you around. I hope that you find what you're looking for and decide to come back one day. :) Either way I wish you all the best. :) --T'Shael MindMeld 06:57, 22 May 2009 (UTC)

Ditto. Come back soon! LITTLEMOUNTAIN5 17:16, 22 May 2009 (UTC)

Moral support. Thanks for your good contributions. Don't let setbacks, frustrations and challenges get in your way. Shit happens. ChildofMidnight (talk) 02:06, 23 May 2009 (UTC)

My respect...

...for you has just shot right up. You did the right thing by resigning adminship, in my opinion. Even if you were the witch in a very public witch hunt, your judgement in knowing now is the time to take a break is admirable and a quality I like to see in any user. Remember though: adminship is no big deal. You can still do so much for this project without a delete button. I hope we all remember that. weburiedoursecretsinthegarden 09:56, 22 May 2009 (UTC)

seconded. —TheDJ (talk • contribs) 10:44, 22 May 2009 (UTC)

I agree with most of the 8 threads above. A hardworking and helpful admin like yourself would have been a great benefit to our mission, both with your own improvements and as your fun and caring nature would have helped you develop the skills of journeyman editors, not of course that you wasnt already doing that without the tools. Still I now think you've made the best choice to step back. I was wrong to try and encourage you otherwise; from your steady composure at the RfA it looked like you had a higher stress threshold than is perhaps the case and Id underestimated the seriousness of the opposition.

This experience will develop your insight in a much more profound way than they teach in any school. You'll develop a deeper understanding of tragic stories and real life events – a consistent theme being how in mature organisations special interests go to great lengths to oppose promotion for thoose rare folk with a strong universal concern for helping others, especially those for whom good takes precedence over adherence to any abstract set of principles. Unless you're operating in a backwater far removed from self serving power plays , one of the few times its beneficial to have an openly good and self confident nature is in a crises. In times of crises such people can have a huge influence on events, both by leading from the front or by advising those already in high office. This holds true at all levels, all the way up to the most effective way of helping those who are struggling in life on the global scale, which is influencing economic policy. A specific example I could point to relates to the global response to the credit crunch , a few people not entirely dissimilar to yourself were able to highlight to policy makers the rare opportunity they had for fiscal socialism, and this was before the Lehman collapse which sent the markets into meltdown mode , a time where the senior consensus was still strongly free market influences , so much so that the Financial Times described the switch to the managed economy as a "stunning reversal of the orthodoxy of the past several decades". Perhaps Im making too much of this as Im gutted about whats happened, but maybe God wanted you to have this experience to give you the wisdom to do more good in other arenas later in life.

Of course , the witch-hunt / self serving opposition motivations are only part of the picture. Were it just those , Im sure youd still be a happy toasting admin – the community here is healthy enough for that. It was our misfortune that your RfA attracted multiple consilient lines of opposition. Some motivated by genuine concern for the encyclopaedia such as the copyright issue. Then theres the political fall out from past events. Also as for some "adminship is no big deal" seems to be an empty phrase , they seem to regard promotion as a badge of honour which should only be awarded to outstanding content builders, whereas in reality the tools detract from ones ability to do the most rewarding stuff here as youre expected to spend more wiki time mopping up – tools should only be a big deal to those who want to help out in that way.

I better say that some opposers were likely entirely motivated by their perception of whats in the best interests of the community, with BigTimePeace being someone falling into that category (your good advice has been taken on board BTP). To sum up Im sure good will come of this, and thanks for the exemplary way you conducted yourself throughout , and also thanks to all the good hearted folk that spoke up for you both before and after the ordeal. FeydHuxtable (talk) 11:15, 22 May 2009 (UTC)

Just what you want to read...

...is all over this page, so I am not going to add to that. You did your part by resigning the flag, so quitting WikiPedia seems a bit hollow to me. I don't think you are quitting, just rightfully frustrated. I (and others like me) find solace in things like WP:DGAF and (something I saw in a recent rfa) WP:BELLY. See you in a few weeks. ZabMilenko 19:35, 22 May 2009 (UTC)

Thanks and good luck

Hello, FlyingToaster. I think I should pop out of wikibreak mode once again given what has happened. First thank you for that lovely RfA card (your own work version!), it was one of the best I have received! I have known you for a while now and we have crossed paths a few times. The copyright issues were serious, there is no doubt about that, but I think you handled the issue fine and you have been surrounded by more drama than you in any way deserve. I respect your decision to resign your adminship, despite me supporting your RfA; I think your good attitude, which is a reason I supported your RfA in the first place, still holds true. I am sorry to hear you are semi-retiring, and like other editors above really hope you return again and show that you can get around these setbacks once you feel ready and everything has calmed down. In any case, I wish you good luck. Camaron | Chris (talk) 20:33, 22 May 2009 (UTC)

Damn

FT, I'm really very sorry it had to come to this. I was hoping you'd ignore Giano and his anti-IRC crap. But maybe it's for the best. The community did treat you harshly, there's really no denying that. I'm really hoping you come back soon. Best of luck. Antivenin 21:52, 23 May 2009 (UTC)

• I was saddened by your note; it always dampens my editing that day when an established contributor pulls out of editing. I do hope you choose to stick around, but I respect your decision, and won't badger you; rather, let me simply say that you have my respect and backing. Best wishes and good luck. AGK 16:18, 25 May 2009 (UTC)

ThankSpam

My RfA Thank you for participating in my "RecFA", which passed with a final tally of 153/39/22. There were issues raised regarding my adminship that I intend to cogitate upon, but I am grateful for the very many supportive comments I received and for the efforts of certain editors (Ceoil, Noroton and Lar especially) in responding to some issues. I wish to note how humbled I was when I read Buster7's support comment, although a fair majority gave me great pleasure. I would also note those whose opposes or neutral were based in process concerns and who otherwise commented kindly in regard to my record. I recognise that the process itself was unusual, and the format was generally considered questionable - and I accept that I was mistaken in my perception of how it would be received - but I am particularly grateful for those whose opposes and neutrals were based in perceptions of how I was not performing to the standards expected of an administrator. As much as the support I received, those comments are hopefully going to allow me to be a better contributor to the project. Thank you. Very much. LessHeard vanU (talk) 12:38, 24 May 2009 (UTC) ~~~~~

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I'm so sorry

I was out and about last week, and I just saw this yesterday... I'm so sorry. Like I said here, when you realize your own mistakes, you become a true wikipedian. Think of this not as a failure, but as a new turn around. There will always be challenges in life but, FT, you are and always will be an admin, no matter whether you have the tools or not. ceranthor 00:38, 28 May 2009 (UTC)

Have you gotten this before?

		Zen Garden Award for Infinite Patience
		This is for not exploding once during this whole ordeal. If you're not proud of that, I definitely am. TheSavageNorwegian 21:48, 31 May 2009 (UTC)

		The Admin coaching barnstar
		For all your help during my re-introduction to Misplaced Pages. TheSavageNorwegian 00:48, 3 June 2009 (UTC)

Hey You

Hey, I see you dropped by last week. I'm glad you haven't totally given up on looking in from time to time. I'm keeping my fingers crossed that this may mean an indication that you're gathering your strength back. The place seems kinda empty without you here, and I hope that a return is in works. You've done such great work here, and helped so many others become better Wikipedians, and better people. Just letting you know that you are not forgotten, and you were, and hopefully are, a cherished asset to the project. Hope to see an all gala affair in the near future, as FT considers a return to family. Let me know, and I'll be the first to roll out the red carpet! Cheers. ;) — Ched :  ?  05:56, 11 June 2009 (UTC)

Yeah seriously, come back. We need people like you on here with your newly acquired mop & bucket. Don't let the naysayers get you down. Valley2city 07:45, 12 June 2009 (UTC)

Yea :) Misplaced Pages needs more users like you :) You are the best adopter wikipedian could EVER have :D We need you at wikipedia or it will break :( We miss you! Irunongames • play 20:23, 16 June 2009 (UTC)

Welcome back

:) Amalthea, hoping that your edit was not just an exception. 20:11, 18 June 2009 (UTC)