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Virginia Tech massacre unprotection

I've replied to your denial of the removal of the (semi-protection of Virginia Tech massacre at Misplaced Pages:Requests for page protection; please reply and clarify your position and reasoning. Thanks! --ElKevbo (talk) 15:13, 12 April 2008 (UTC)

Listen here fiend

You unilaterally closed the nomination when two other users agreed with you. Misplaced Pages has over 6 million accounts. Who speaks on their behalf? I will not allow you to stamp out the voices of the people Goodandhonestwhig (talk) 16:07, 12 April 2008 (UTC)

My RFA has closed

My RFA that you weighed in on earlier has closed as no consensus to promote, at a final tally of 120/47/13. I thank you for your feedback and comments there, and I'm going to be considering all the various advice and comments presented. I might end up at RFA again some day, or not. If you see me there again in the future, perhaps you might consider a Support !vote. If not, not, and no hard feelings. The pen is still mightier than the mop! See you around, and thanks again. Lawrence § t/e 18:24, 12 April 2008 (UTC)

Thank you

That was very kind of you, Rudget, and I truly appreciate your sentiments. Now, whom did you have in mind… -- Avi (talk) 13:45, 13 April 2008 (UTC)

RFA Thanks

Thank you for your comments on my RFA. Even though it failed with 28 supports, 42 opposes, and 15 neutrals, I am grateful for the suggestions and advice I have received and I do hope to improve as a Wikipedian. If you ever need my help in any endeavor, feel free to drop me a line. --Sharkface217 19:52, 13 April 2008 (UTC)

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RPP backlog

I undid your removal of that tag, since there's been an entry sitting there since 04:19 (10 hours ago). There are also other entries; that's what I call a backlog. I suggest that rather than spending time quibbling over what's a backlog, you actually reduce it... Thanks in advance,

My RfA...

Hello

i showed proof about vandalism against prede and lord.Why am i blocked? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 195.23.133.162 (talk) 17:32, 14 April 2008 (UTC)

Well, not taking anything else into account, you're clearly not blocked, (at least not on this IP), as if you were you wouldn't be able to post here... _TalkIslander 17:44, 14 April 2008 (UTC)

Probably editing from a proxy... Rudget (review) 17:45, 14 April 2008 (UTC)

I'm not editing from a proxy and your behavior is hysterical and agressive. Since when a fan page is a source?? The scans are mine and belong to shueisha and they insist to keep them plus 12 hours to report someone who made wrong things like unsourced personal opinions —Preceding unsigned comment added by 195.23.133.162 (talk) 18:00, 14 April 2008 (UTC) I've shown that i never edited under another IP address.My edits are public so i don't need to prove anything and you know it very well. Do you know what is reasonable doubt? You can not punish people beyond a reasonable doubt specially with false accusations.The prosecutor(you) must prove the accusations not me.Now i challenge you to show me proof my editions were made with 2 different IP. This is not guantanamo. 1-Your friends made false accusations (like you) ex:impersonate another user proof:http://en.wikipedia.org/User_talk:195.23.133.162 -Impersonation of other editors

Please do not impersonate User:Folken de Fanel-here is my sentence-Don't be a goofy and hypocrite folken already confirmed daizenshuu 7 listed tenshin as an alien in the discussion above" Toriyama didn't write the Daizenshû himself, but he has read it, enjoyed it, and he approved the book for release. We also know that he himself wrote some paragraphs in the book. Thus it's a canonical source. However we can wonder how the "tenshinhan is an extraterrestrial" thing was really usefull, as it has never been brought forth in the manga. But since Gokû's tail makes him an extraterrestrial, why couldn't Tenshinhan's 3rd eye make him alien also ? And the manga didn't specifically state that Ten' was a human. Thus the alien explanation is at least coherent and it should be mentionned in the infobox, at least in the form "human/alien". Folken de Fanel 18:54, 16 July 2006 (UTC)

now folken de fanel here in the topic incorrection: http://en.wikipedia.org/Talk:Tenshinhan#Prede Toriyama didn't write the Daizenshû himself, but he has read it, enjoyed it, and he approved the book for release. We also know that he himself wrote some paragraphs in the book. Thus it's a canonical source. However we can wonder how the "tenshinhan is an extraterrestrial" thing was really usefull, as it has never been brought forth in the manga. But since Gokû's tail makes him an extraterrestrial, why couldn't Tenshinhan's 3rd eye make him alien also ? And the manga didn't specifically state that Ten' was a human. Thus the alien explanation is at least coherent and it should be mentionned in the infobox, at least in the form "human/alien". Folken de Fanel 18:54, 16 July 2006 (UTC)

-finally your friends were trying to apply me the 3r to block me without any reason. I showed an official reference instead they made edits without references-reference number 30 is not official but it comes from a fan page which means they made unsourced editions several times. This is not a copyright violation??????-URL=http://imageshack.us]http://img246.imageshack.us/img246/3716/gruposraciaisd7oy1.gif URL=http://imageshack.us]http://img145.imageshack.us/img145/6541/shishinnokendg6.jpg These scans were provided by myself why insist to keep them in the discussion page??? I am working in citizendium and your behavior here was agressive, unfair, wrong and abusive. An administrator must be wise,you are not wise and refused to listen. Remember an administrator is not untouchable. Your false accusations and abusive actions are clear in this situation.--~~the-one~~

BRC @ Signpost

Hey Rudget, just so you know, we're not exclusive to admins anymore. Anyone with a bathrobe and a thumb is welcome. GlassCobra 18:10, 14 April 2008 (UTC)

Also, will you be asking more than one person these questions? GlassCobra 18:13, 14 April 2008 (UTC)

Already noted, and anyone can answer them. Rudget (review) 18:25, 14 April 2008 (UTC)

Okay. I'd like to, if that's alright. Where should I answer? GlassCobra 18:34, 14 April 2008 (UTC)

Anywhere... :) Rudget (review) 18:35, 14 April 2008 (UTC)

I meant Misplaced Pages:Misplaced Pages Signpost/2008-04-14/Cabal report. Rudget (review) 18:35, 14 April 2008 (UTC)

Okay, I've answered all the questions on my talk page, User talk:GlassCobra#Report questions. Thanks! GlassCobra 19:01, 14 April 2008 (UTC)

I answered them too at User_talk:Hmwith#WP:BRC/WP:SIGNPOST questions, if you'd like more perspective. Hope the article turns out well. =) Cheers, нмŵוτнτ 19:20, 14 April 2008 (UTC)

Dfrg.msc and I founded it during his RfA. Lara solidified it by creating an official page on her userspace. I am no longer a member and have no affiliation, so I'd appreciate an accurate report. the_undertow 20:30, 14 April 2008 (UTC)

I'd rather not handle the BRC as part of the WikiProject report, though I'm open to working out a way/place to cover it (perhaps a general article on more social projects?) I think the WikiProject report should focus on official WikiProjects whose primary goal is to improve articles. Ral315 (talk) 20:41, 14 April 2008 (UTC)

Should this story be included at some point, I'd also like to make the correction that we don't have a Yahoo! group. One was created, we don't really use it. We have a website of forums, http://bathrobecabal.org. Lara❤Love 05:12, 15 April 2008 (UTC)

E-mail

Pong. -- Avi (talk) 16:53, 15 April 2008 (UTC)

Ping. Rudget (review) 16:55, 15 April 2008 (UTC)

Pong² -- Avi (talk) 17:44, 15 April 2008 (UTC)

Featured topic

I would like to encourage you to not lose heart because your nomination had to be withdrawn. Zginder 2008-04-16T00:32Z (UTC)

He's back

• Still Not 86 (talk · contribs) is a sock of MJD86 (talk · contribs) -- Scorpion 13:51, 16 April 2008 (UTC)

Spellmanloves67

You blocked the above editor for disruptive editing and using sockpuppets. One of the anon sockpuppets: User:75.134.128.140, you only blocked for 1 week. Spellmanloves67 is using it to edit which I presume is okay (he claims to be his roommate). However, he has erased the Sockpuppet designation. I'm not sure if this is appropriate or not. The user is obviously still Spellmanloves sockpuppet.Mysteryquest (talk) 04:15, 17 April 2008 (UTC)

Hmm, from a brief overview, the IP looks fine. With regards to the sock notice, I've re-instated it and semi-protected the page so the re-addition can't be undone by the IP. Hope this helps. Regards, Rudget 15:18, 17 April 2008 (UTC)

Thank you! Mysteryquest (talk) 15:37, 17 April 2008 (UTC)

WP:SSP

Nudge! _{The public face of GB} 16:41, 17 April 2008 (UTC)

Re: Denshaw

Hello there! I was going to contact you direct for a semi-protection, but your contibution history indicated you weren't active at the time!

Actually, I was looking for an article to cite about this, when I came across this entry about Denshaw this morning! From there, I heard it had gone to the MEN, then the Daily Mail, then NWT!!! The village is about a 1 minute drive from myself, which is kind of weird. --Jza84 |  Talk  18:10, 17 April 2008 (UTC)

I'm just glad I spotted it in the morning rather than here it from NWT! Least it's stimulated a bit of interest. --Jza84 |  Talk  18:16, 17 April 2008 (UTC)

In your capacity as a sysop, you might want to keep an eye on User:Daveyjones81, whom one could say with ease is the ip vandal on Denshaw.... infact, if his IP was blocked, surely he isn't entitled to edit?? --Jza84 |  Talk  18:38, 17 April 2008 (UTC)

Y Blocked indefinitely. Rudget 18:40, 17 April 2008 (UTC)

Student Union of the University of Turku

Hi. The Student Union of the University of Turku, as are all studen unions in Finland, is a coorporation with an Executive Board and Secretariat, not a student "club". All Finnish student unions take international students very seriously an dit should be available along with Finnish universities. I merely translated the page from the Finnish page - I could add more too it if needed. Could you please un-delete?

Thank you,User: Leopea 13:34, 18 April 2008 (UTC)

User:Jacob Green696

Hello Rudget. You blocked Jacob Green696 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · page moves · block user · block log) as a sockpuppet of ElisaEXPLOSION, but there is currently an unblock request on that talk page. If you can take a look, and provide more information, it would be appreciated. Thanks, Rjd0060 (talk) 14:16, 17 April 2008 (UTC)

Thank you for unblocking me,Rudget.But an explination is required regarding my first edits.I created a first page,User:Jacob Green789, and I forgot the password so I made a different page,User:Jacob Green696.In response to the fact that I so desperatly wanted to help Elisa was because I thought she was being treated unfair.I will soon start editing Misplaced Pages and I already know of one site that has been vandalized.Thanks again Mr. Green 15:12, 18 April 2008 (UTC)

Re:Simpsons' signpost report

I don't really want to be interviewed and I haven't been very active in the project as of late. I suggest asking User:Gran2. -- Scorpion 15:50, 18 April 2008 (UTC)

Thanks. I will do. Rudget 15:51, 18 April 2008 (UTC)

Sure thing, I'll answer any qustions as best I can. Gran 16:18, 18 April 2008 (UTC)

Congratulations, Rudget on the success. :) Qst (talk) 18:31, 18 April 2008 (UTC)

You'll have to thank Qst for this report. :) Rudget 18:35, 18 April 2008 (UTC)

Speedy Deletion of TecUthsav

Hi. Aren't we supposed to wait for a week for the authors of the article to rewrite it before deleting it? You have deleted it 2 hours after I marked it! Sahasranaman /_C 16:02, 18 April 2008 (UTC)

You tagged it for speedy deletion? Rudget 18:32, 18 April 2008 (UTC)

Sites of Special Scientific Interest

Hey. If you notice the website is up, can you drop me a note? I'm almost always in ##RudgetKnight when you join (although often away from the keyboard,) so you can drop me a note there if you like, or on my talk page. If you're still interested in pursuing a FT, do you think we could get it done by Christmas if we keep moving? :) Qst (talk) 13:00, 19 April 2008 (UTC)

Will do. I am going to have to put in a complaint about the website, that level of service is unacceptable. Rudget 14:01, 19 April 2008 (UTC)

Yeah, I was thinking that, but I wasn't really willing to ring Natural England, though. Hopefully it won't be too long before its back up. Qst (talk) 14:17, 19 April 2008 (UTC)

FPC I'd Like Help With

Hey, I was just wondering if you wouldn't mind going to Portal:James Bond. I'd really appreciate any criticisms or support that you could provide for this Featured portal candidate. Ultra! 14:43, 21 April 2008 (UTC)

If you're on...

Can you please block User:HairyHarry88? Seriously, I am sick of reverting him. J.delanoy_adds 18:16, 19 April 2008 (UTC)

Looks like Doc got to sort the patient before I did.... Rudget 18:18, 19 April 2008 (UTC)

Re: Rollback

Well, yes, that would be useful... Thanks! GregorB (talk) 19:25, 19 April 2008 (UTC)

User:Asenine/AC

I don't really understand the question. Could you rephrase it, if possible? Thanks, man. asenine /_c 02:33, 20 April 2008 (UTC)

I'll get to it soon! Rudget 10:58, 20 April 2008 (UTC)

Speedy Deletion of Student Union of the University of Turku restored

Hi. Thank you for the restoration. I can add to the page also, that TYY is amongst the first student unions in Finland that has made their fixed-term secretariat positions permanent (another reason for its significance). And I know that I need to remember to use spellcheck on my pages...I get too hasty sometimes :-) Thank you again. Cheers Leopea (talk) 11:50, 20 April 2008 (UTC)

Misplaced Pages:Requests for adminship/Wisdom89 3

Hi Rudget. Per previous discussion, this is just a note to let you know I've created the above. Pedro :  Chat  22:25, 19 April 2008 (UTC)

Hey, I have asked the other users that have randomly co-nominated to ask Wisdom first, personally I would rather see no more than three con-noms. Tiptoety 15:06, 20 April 2008 (UTC)

hey bud, it looks like a few of the other co-noms have been redacted. Still interested? Tiptoety 15:35, 20 April 2008 (UTC)

Indeed! Thank you Tiptoey for your help on this. I've been busy in RL but the number of noms was becoming "concerning". Pedro :  Chat  15:49, 20 April 2008 (UTC)

Answers

1. Well the project's main aim is "to better organize information in articles related to the television series The Simpsons," as the defined by our WikiProject page. This basically means that we aim to write our articles in an out-of-universe way, using second and third-party sources to prove notability: creation, production and critical reception information for example. Fiction is a very hot topic and contentious issue at Misplaced Pages. Therefore we aim to reliably source and organize as much of our content as possible, and merge anything which has no real world significance. We do predominantly focus on The Simpsons, but as it is one of the most popular shows of all-time, there are many articles in our scope which branch out into other areas as well. Aside from the TV show, there's the film, video games and other merchandise. On top of that there is the staff and cast. One of my favourite articles is Hank Azaria who, although he has had a lot of fame from working on The Simpsons, has done a lot of other projects as well. We try and get a nice balance between the articles directly related to the show and those about the behind the scenes aspects.
2. This is a recurring problem which we face each day. As said in answer to the previous question, we strive to source articles as much as we possibly can, particularly those with easily disputable information. When it comes to original research, "Cultural references" sections are frequent targets. Such jokes are always inserted into episodes of The Simpsons and have become one of its many hallmarks, but a lot of them can be perceived as meaning different things by different people. As such our policy has been "if you can't source it, it goes". This often leads to conflicts as people react angrily when Cultural references they have added are removed because they are not sourced. Occasionally though, there are some funny results. I remember once, someone added to the 1994 episode "Bart of Darkness" that it was based on the 2007 film Disturbia and not actually Rear Window, as is the real case. Other areas are not as bad, bias or personal opinions are quickly reverted and trivia or continuity errors are removed as standard anyway. Often, unsourced material relating to the production of the series is mentioned in the DVD commentaries anyway, and so is easily fixed.
3. The Simpsons is my favourite show and the fact that it's a comedy makes it a lot more enjoyable for me to edit than it would be if I was editing something like Osmosis, for example. Many people may think that The Simpsons isn't exactly the most important topic that Misplaced Pages "should" be covering, and they’re entitled to their opinion. But, I really don't want to write an article about Osmosis or something else of worldly importance, not at this stage in my life at least. It doesn't interest me. Comedy however, does and so is the main driving force behind my chosen to edit these types of article. We try and include any really significant quotes from the staff and the show itself (most of which are funny) in order to broaden the effect of our articles, whenever it's appropriate and possible.
4. I can think of a few occurrences off-hand. I remember back around a year ago, we decided to start a drive to improve more of our articles to a higher quality status; we selected a number of core articles and episodes to work on, and came up with a style guide for each type of page. This has really helped us shape our achievements and develop into one of the most successful WikiProjects devoted to an individual media production. Also, we've often discussed merging or deleting a large number of our articles, which have no real-world notability - primarily characters.
5. Certainly, without the dedication of our members we would not have had nearly as much success as we have done. I remember at the beginning of 2007: we had one featured article, one featured list, and one good article as well as only really three active members. Twelve months later we have greatly increased that number to 13 FAs, 12 FLs and 83 GAs, not to mention two featured topics and a featured portal. Over the year we became better at producing quality articles and focusing our efforts with schemes such as Featured topic drives, as well as recruiting a few more dedicated, active members, who have all worked more than hard. There's no doubt our success is a reflection of our editor's great work.
6. We recently produced an advertising banner in the hope of attracting more members. On top of that we have a welcome template to explain the basics of the topic to new members and to encourage them to stick around and help in any way they can. We also encourage any new members to ask some of the more experienced editors in the project if they are unsure about something, to help them settle in.
7. I was going to try and be groundbreakingly original, but in all honesty, my favourite family member is Homer. My favourite character overall is actually Superintendent Chalmers.

Hope these are all right, if I misunderstood a question or my answer needs clarifying or something, don't hesitate to ask. Gran 17:06, 20 April 2008 (UTC)

Britishrailclass91

If I were you, I would get the application shut down asap. The user has made several personal attacks on my talk page, and hopefully the closing will slow these down! Regards, Btline (talk) 18:18, 20 April 2008 (UTC)

I can't without the explicit permission of the user in question. I can't close per WP:SNOW as the RFA hasn't been to RFA yet. Hmm.. Rudget 18:19, 20 April 2008 (UTC)

Sorry

I accidently added more to User BritRal Class 91 after it had been closed. Btline (talk) 18:28, 20 April 2008 (UTC)

B zhao

This article did not deserve deletion.

There's a beer-fest at my talk page

And you're invited : ) Thanks for your comment earlier too. It buoyed my spirit! Wisdom89 _{(T / )} 00:36, 22 April 2008 (UTC)

Tsk tsk, Wisdom. Offering beer to a minor...Hey Rudge. Saw your userpage. Best of luck to you on your exams, and I wish you the best. Hope to see you around here (but you and I both know that RL is way more important than WL - and it pays better :-) Cheers, (but not with beers)... Keeper | 76 | Disclaimer 14:46, 22 April 2008 (UTC)

Good luck with your exams!

I'm about to be done with school for the near future. Looking forward to getting my life back. Good luck finding the work.school/life balance TRAVELLINGCARI_{Tell me yours} 14:53, 22 April 2008 (UTC)

Indeed, good luck. As I'm sure you've noticed, I've been a bit preoccupied and off-schedule as well :) I'll see if anyone wants to pick it up in your absence. Ral315 (talk) 08:52, 23 April 2008 (UTC)

review me plz

Review me please.--xgmx (T | C | D | R | DR) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 4.244.36.182 (talk) 13:41, 23 April 2008 (UTC)

Thanks

Thank you for voting in my RfA, which passed with 194 supporting, 9 opposing, and 4 neutral. Your kindness and constructive criticism is very much appreciated. I look forward to using the tools you have granted me to aid the project. I would like to give special thanks to Tim Vickers, Anthony and Acalamari for their nominations. Thank you again, VanTucky

Why thank you!

Thanks for the welcome - it's good to be back! -- Natalya 14:34, 24 April 2008 (UTC)

Portal:New York

Hi Rudget. I was wondering if you could consider closing this FPOC for Portal:New York, as its been underway for longer than the recently promoted Portal:Textile arts, and has four supports. Not meaning to sound impatient, though. :-) Qst (talk) 19:28, 25 April 2008 (UTC)

Rfa thanks

Thanks for supporting my recent request for adminship which was successful with 89 supports, 0 opposes, and 2 neutrals. Unfortunately all I can offer is this lame text thanks rather than some fancy-smancy thank-you spam template thingy. I was very pleased to receive such strong support and to hear so many nice comments from editors whom I respect. I’ll do my best with the tools, and if you ever see me going astray don’t hesitate to drop a note on my talk page. Thanks again for your support!--Bigtimepeace | talk | contribs 03:45, 26 April 2008 (UTC)