Talk:J.D. Power - Misplaced Pages

This is an old revision of this page, as edited by David spector (talk | contribs) at 00:35, 27 October 2009 (→Lack of criticism: new section). The present address (URL) is a permanent link to this revision, which may differ significantly from the current revision.

Revision as of 00:35, 27 October 2009 by David spector (talk | contribs) (→Lack of criticism: new section)(diff) ← Previous revision | Latest revision (diff) | Newer revision → (diff)

This is the talk page for discussing improvements to the J.D. Power article.
This is not a forum for general discussion of the article's subject.

Put new text under old text. Click here to start a new topic.
New to Misplaced Pages? Welcome! Learn to edit; get help.

Article policies

Find sources: Google (books · news · scholar · free images · WP refs) · FENS · JSTOR · TWL

Companies Unassessed

This article is within the scope of WikiProject Companies, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of companies on Misplaced Pages. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the discussion and see a list of open tasks.CompaniesWikipedia:WikiProject CompaniesTemplate:WikiProject Companiescompany

??? This article has not yet received a rating on Misplaced Pages's content assessment scale.

??? This article has not yet received a rating on the project's importance scale.

WikiProject Companies To-do:

Here are some tasks awaiting attention:

Article requests : Misplaced Pages:Requested articles/Business and economics/Companies
Assess : Category:Unassessed company articles
Copyedit : Category:Company articles needing attention
Infobox : Category:Company articles needing infoboxes
Maintain : Portal:Companies
Stubs : Help expand stub articles located at Category:Company stubs
Other :
- Tag company articles with the {{portal|Companies}} template
- Tag company talk pages with the {{WikiProject Companies}} project banner
- Answer requests for comments

California: Los Angeles / Southern California Start‑class Low‑importance

	California portal This article is within the scope of WikiProject California, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of the U.S. state of California on Misplaced Pages. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the discussion and see a list of open tasks.CaliforniaWikipedia:WikiProject CaliforniaTemplate:WikiProject CaliforniaCalifornia
Start	This article has been rated as Start-class on Misplaced Pages's content assessment scale.
Low	This article has been rated as Low-importance on the project's importance scale.
	Greater Los Angeles portal This article is supported by Los Angeles area task force.
	This article is supported by Southern California task force.

Lots of unsupported slamming going on

Clearly no "supporter" would ever say anything like that. Simply doing some basic research shows that J.D. Power has always been an independent company that's managed to piss off lots of the big car companies (along with other industries) by giving a venue for customer experiences, both good and bad. Companies would nearly always rather keep that kind of information under wraps -- too bad for them that the 'net and places like this make that impossible to do, particularly when the research of proven independent firms like J.D. Power can be accessed by anyone.

This article is unbelieveably biased. It should be deleted and redone.

Huh?

"JD Power supporters however point out that their surveys are influential and therefore it doesn't matter if they are reliable." -that "supporters" viewpoint doesn't sound very supportive, if I knew what supporters actually thought I'd change it, but I didn't even know there was a debate 216.207.246.230 03:03, 18 May 2006 (UTC)

Merger

There is another article for "J.D. Power". Shouldn't the two be combined, and one deleted?

yea i just found it. they should be merged. 70.111.251.203 17:49, 6 May 2006 (UTC)

They are 2 separate things. This is the company, J.D. Power is the man. --Froalskiner 06:35, 10 November 2007 (UTC)

Odd...

I always figured they were owned by a certain crappy US car company.

I guess direct ownership would be too obvious. They probably get paid under the table.

24.110.60.225 21:14, 12 March 2006 (UTC)

Consumer Reports

HAHA. What eveidence is there that they are "not for profit"? Utter nonsense. CJ DUB 23:07, 21 May 2006 (UTC)

The publisher of Consumer Reports ("Consumers Union of United States") is a nonprofit corporation. It is registered as such with the Internal Revenue Service of the US Government. Exia 02:42, 26 November 2006 (UTC)

References?

No cited references except for the company's website, and no cited source for the "Criticism" section. I don't dispute or support anything in the article, but it would be improved by some external information on the subject.

-- Epimetreus 06:19, 3 October 2006 (UTC)

Unreferenced criticism

I removed the Criticism section because the claims could be considered libel if false, and they are unreferenced. There were also counterclaims randomly inserted in the text, which made it a real mess. -- Beland 23:13, 29 November 2006 (UTC)

 I removed the section again--Froalskiner (talk) 02:21, 18 August 2008 (UTC)

Potential conflicts of Interest

What do we think about linking in a discussion on conflicts of interest? J.D. Power faces a silimar conflict of interest that appears in other industries as well. For example, accounting firms are paid by the very firms they objectively audit - potential conflict. Also, there are ratings firms (Moody's, Fitch, S&P) that rate the debt of companies and get paid by the companies that issue the debt - potential conflict. I think this is the broader issue that should be linked in. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Chichi2186 (talk • contribs) 19:01, 23 February 2007 (UTC).

Tag

Due to all the issues with sources pov, conflict of intrest, ect., I have tagged the article with {{Noncompliant}} for cleanup.Hondasare 05:12, 29 March 2007 (UTC)

Criticism

The criticism section is very poorly written. It's obiously some kind of edit war with two biased opinions. I have tagged it with {{OR-sect}} and {{POV-section}} due to this.Hondasare 03:16, 8 April 2007 (UTC)

Do you expect me to believe that JD powers is unbiased. You are kidding right? I am physician and you would think that when it came to people's lives that would be the only place where corruption would not exist but i assure you that the FDA and pharmaceutical industry as well as in basic and clinical research. corruption is rampid. Question everything !!! —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 76.31.237.186 (talk) 16:45:29, August 19, 2007 (UTC)

Questions of "independent and unbiased"

It seems to me that the opening statement that the company conducts "independent & unbiased" surveys is causing a lot of the friction. Why not just state that the company conducts surveys and leave it at that? Hatcat (talk) 22:36, 1 January 2008 (UTC)

Blogs as Citations?

I remove the power for pay critisim because it used a blog as it citation, really, I think that if you are going to write something like that you have to actually have a source that is relying on facts and not just what the source has heard

Consumer Reports

I removed the reference to Consumer reports since it's not really relevant to this company. I also cleaned up some of the wording in a few other sections.--Froalskiner (talk) 05:07, 15 June 2008 (UTC)

The language of customer satisfaction?

Last paragraph "bringing the language of customer satisfaction to consumers and businesses"...What kind of marketing speak is this? Like there were no customer satisfaction surveys before JDP brought them? Nonsense, needs to go. Kar98 (talk) 03:48, 15 July 2008 (UTC)

Criticism section...comes and goes...

I don't understand why Consumer Reports keeps getting brought up in this article. 1, they are not the same company. 2, they have different types of data gathering. The main data gathering method J.D. Power and Associates uses is surveys sent out to vehicle owners(assuming the point of contention is the automotive surveys). They compile this data to generate the scores then provides all of that data to all of the manufacturers that purchase the study information. How can they possibly be biased in the scoring if each number is scrutinized by every manufacturer. --Froalskiner (talk) 06:46, 23 August 2008 (UTC)

Lack of criticism

This article has no credible criticism of J.D. Power and Associates to balance its gushing positive description.

I searched the Web and could find only one (clearly biased) complaint against J.D. Power and Associates (I did a general search as well as searches on popular complaint sites).

This seems odd to me. The company conducts surveys of customer satisfaction then provides the use of their results in advertising for the top-rated companies. The temptation for abuse is enormous. In thinking about this, I realized an important point that I have not seen considered: there appears to be no organization with a mission to evaluate or regulate companies like JDPA. Therefore, although JDPA evaluates many companies, no companies or government agencies evaluate JDPA. Why do we trust them to use objective and accurate satisfaction survey criteria to recommend the best products or services?

No company is perfect, yet, according to the Web, JDPA would appear to have a perfect record. This is hard to believe.

Even more unbelievably, JDPA claims that EarthLink's performance is "impressive". The reason I say that this is unbelievable is that a Google search shows 37 specific websites containing complaints against Earthlink, whereas only 22 specific websites containing complaints against Verizon FIOS, one of Earthlink's main competitors, were found.

References

Categories: