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Tjampuhan Hotel

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fails WP:CORP. no real third party coverage LibStar (talk) 01:40, 3 November 2009 (UTC)

Oppose, hotel is mentioned in literature and should be expanded. Gryffindor (talk) 21:15, 3 November 2009 (UTC)

please provide evidence of how it meets WP:CORP. LibStar (talk) 22:58, 3 November 2009 (UTC)

Is WP:CORP the sole criteria for consideration? --Merbabu (talk) 03:13, 10 November 2009 (UTC)

feel free to show if it meets WP:N or WP:GNG. LibStar (talk) 05:36, 10 November 2009 (UTC)

See below, and the article now that the Spies connection has been inserted. --Merbabu (talk) 12:25, 10 November 2009 (UTC)

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so consensus may be reached.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Tim Song (talk) 02:03, 10 November 2009 (UTC)

• Delete A gsearch turns up quite a bit, but all of it seems to be promotional in nature. Wading through those results, I couldn't find anything from reliable sources. Jujutacular  02:32, 10 November 2009 (UTC)

• Keep per additional sources added indicating historic notability of hotel. Jujutacular  09:18, 12 November 2009 (UTC)

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• Delete. Fails WP:CORP. Qworty (talk) 02:42, 10 November 2009 (UTC)
• Keep - article did not assert it's notability. I have added this (although probably poorly) - ie, it is the site of Walter Spies's 1930's home, one of the most important figures of 20th century, indeed, modern Bali. The hotel has it's own chapter in "William Warren, Jill Gocher (2007). Asia's legendary hotels: the romance of travel. Singapore: Periplus Editions. p. 202. ISBN 978-0-7946-0174-4.". Remember, AFD is about subject notability, not article quality. --Merbabu (talk) 03:12, 10 November 2009 (UTC)

• The fact that Walter Spies had a home here does not automatically make it notable (see WP:INHERIT). Here is a gbook link to the book you mentioned: . It shows the first page of the chapter. It certainly looks significant, but our guidelines say we prefer multiple sources. From looking at the book, I suspect more sources exist, and I encourage anyone else that knows of any sources to post them. Jujutacular  03:39, 10 November 2009 (UTC)

• Keep One clear source is enough. DGG ( talk ) 06:00, 10 November 2009 (UTC)

what happened to significant coverage test as per WP:GNG? otherwise we'd be creating billions of articles with one clear source. LibStar (talk) 11:52, 10 November 2009 (UTC)

• Keep. Here are some more sources documenting the Spies connection. Phil Bridger (talk) 09:13, 10 November 2009 (UTC)
• Keep, quite notable; historic, even. You can say in Spies' house. Beware the monitor lizards down by the river. Sincerely, Jack Merridew 13:29, 10 November 2009 (UTC)
• Keep i've added two more sources. I don't care to look, but sourcing could be found to describe this as the most famous structure on Bali connected to the colony of European artists that established there between the wars and had wide influence on both the development of modern balinese art, and the global tourist economy that drives it.Bali ultimate (talk) 13:44, 11 November 2009 (UTC)

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