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Hey Grundle. I saw this article noted on another editor's page and thought it was interesting . I hope all is well with you. I mentioned you once on my talk page in a discussion about prairie dogs and whether they can recognize each other by their teeth or, as I speculated, it's a breath thing. ChildofMidnight (talk) 21:58, 2 March 2010 (UTC)
- Thanks for the link. I commented on the relevant section of your talk page about the prairie dogs. Grundle2600 (talk) 01:05, 3 March 2010 (UTC)
- It's a nice photo. There an even better one in Jenavecia's (sp?) userpage history. Seems like a very strange way to greet one's relatives. But having seen bird mating dances, nature has developed some very interesting behavior patterns. ChildofMidnight (talk) 07:03, 3 March 2010 (UTC)
- This meme is still going strong . ChildofMidnight (talk) 07:25, 3 March 2010 (UTC)
- Thanks! That was great! Grundle2600 (talk) 08:40, 3 March 2010 (UTC)
- Given my current circumstances here at wikipedia, I can really relate to his predicament right now! Grundle2600 (talk) 09:41, 8 March 2010 (UTC)
Vincent Who?
Not sure if there are enough sources for this but if you can find some I think you should create an article on it. Meanwhile I rearranged the sections a bit since documentaries shouldn't be in a "popular culture" section. If you do so I think there should be two subsections. "Documentaries" and "In popular culture".The Magnificent Clean-keeper (talk) 04:10, 6 March 2010 (UTC)
- I just rearranged the section.The Magnificent Clean-keeper (talk) 04:31, 6 March 2010 (UTC)
- PS: Please take a look at the talk page too.The Magnificent Clean-keeper (talk) 05:00, 6 March 2010 (UTC)
- Your changes are fine. I just wanted to make sure it was mentioned somewhere in the article. There are enough sources that I could at least create a decent stub, but I've just been really busy recently. I agree with you that it's not always easy to figure out how to arrange these things within the article, but I trust whatever method you believe is best. Grundle2600 (talk) 19:38, 6 March 2010 (UTC)
- I just rearranged a bit more. Anyways, if you could start a stub for the Vincent who? documentary (when you have the time) that would be great.The Magnificent Clean-keeper (talk) 21:27, 6 March 2010 (UTC)
- This search at the Movie Review Query Engine does not cite even one single review of the film. I don't recall that ever happening with any other search that I have ever done at that website. Grundle2600 (talk) 23:02, 6 March 2010 (UTC)
- The only evidence of notability is the entry at Internet Movie Database. Even this search at All Movie Guide does not yield any results. Grundle2600 (talk) 23:17, 6 March 2010 (UTC)
- Hey, Grundle, I was patrolling new pages when your stub popped up, and marked it patrolled in case someone else wanted to put a speedy on it. But in the long run, you're going to have to find more references than IMDB. I hope you do, because it's a really good misidentification story. Do you know the joke about the Jew and the Korean drinking at the bar? It's not offensive to either. PhGustaf (talk) 23:24, 6 March 2010 (UTC)
- Thank. I agree with you that the subject deserves an article, but also that it needs more references. Perhaps it will win some awards over the next few months, or at least receive a few nominations. Grundle2600 (talk) 23:30, 6 March 2010 (UTC)
- Mmh. Google news gave me this but I'm not sure if it would qualify as a RS. A general search gave me this and that and there might be (or maybe not) enough info for an article. What a bummer that there seems to be no news source about the documentary.The Magnificent Clean-keeper (talk) 23:35, 6 March 2010 (UTC)
- Thanks. I just added the Philadelphia Enquirer article to it right before I read your message. Grundle2600 (talk) 23:37, 6 March 2010 (UTC)
- Mmh. Google news gave me this but I'm not sure if it would qualify as a RS. A general search gave me this and that and there might be (or maybe not) enough info for an article. What a bummer that there seems to be no news source about the documentary.The Magnificent Clean-keeper (talk) 23:35, 6 March 2010 (UTC)
- Thank. I agree with you that the subject deserves an article, but also that it needs more references. Perhaps it will win some awards over the next few months, or at least receive a few nominations. Grundle2600 (talk) 23:30, 6 March 2010 (UTC)
- Hey, Grundle, I was patrolling new pages when your stub popped up, and marked it patrolled in case someone else wanted to put a speedy on it. But in the long run, you're going to have to find more references than IMDB. I hope you do, because it's a really good misidentification story. Do you know the joke about the Jew and the Korean drinking at the bar? It's not offensive to either. PhGustaf (talk) 23:24, 6 March 2010 (UTC)
- I just rearranged a bit more. Anyways, if you could start a stub for the Vincent who? documentary (when you have the time) that would be great.The Magnificent Clean-keeper (talk) 21:27, 6 March 2010 (UTC)
- I just saw that you already created the article. "smile" The Magnificent Clean-keeper (talk) 23:39, 6 March 2010 (UTC)
- I hope you don't mind, but I saw that you were discussing the film. I've read about it, so I wanted to help. I added the official website, and I'll look for other sources. — Malik Shabazz /Stalk 23:48, 6 March 2010 (UTC)
- Thanks. And of course I don't mind - the more the merrier! Grundle2600 (talk) 23:50, 6 March 2010 (UTC)
- I hope you don't mind, but I saw that you were discussing the film. I've read about it, so I wanted to help. I added the official website, and I'll look for other sources. — Malik Shabazz /Stalk 23:48, 6 March 2010 (UTC)
There we go. Another needed article created! BTW, this part of the judges reasoning, "These weren't the kind of men you send to jail.", really pissed me off (excuse my French).The Magnificent Clean-keeper (talk) 00:37, 7 March 2010 (UTC)
Interesting news
- While I am very much in favor of laws to protect animals from abuse, I don't think they need their own lawyers! Grundle2600 (talk) 05:01, 7 March 2010 (UTC)
Spoons
One good turn deserves another . ChildofMidnight (talk) 19:46, 7 March 2010 (UTC)
- Heh heh heh. That was great - thanks! Grundle2600 (talk) 21:33, 7 March 2010 (UTC)
Clarification sought at WP:AN
Sorry bro, but I think you're crossing the topic ban line with this one. WP:AN#Grundle2600, topic ban inquiry. Tarc (talk) 02:29, 8 March 2010 (UTC)
- Geez, Grundle, you've got to be smart enough to just fucking stop this shit. Just fucking stop it. No fucking whining or wikilawyering. Keep it up, and you'll run out of people willing to help you pull your fucking self out of fucking fires you've fucking built your fucking self. PhGustaf (talk) 04:15, 8 March 2010 (UTC)
- I thought my request was polite, and completely non-political. But I guess the higher ups disagree. Oh well. Grundle2600 (talk) 09:25, 8 March 2010 (UTC)
Blocked
You have been blocked from editing for a period of 1 week for violating your topic ban and refusing to stop beating a long-dead horse. Please stop. You are welcome to make useful contributions after the block expires. If you believe this block is unjustified you may contest this block by adding the text{{unblock|Your reason here}}
below, but you should read our guide to appealing blocks first. MastCell 05:12, 8 March 2010 (UTC)
- This is both a clear violation of your topic ban and evidence of a distressing failure to get the point. MastCell 05:12, 8 March 2010 (UTC)
- A week? Wow! Given that my request was completely polite, and non-political, I think any block is unjustified - and a week is way too long. Oh well. I'll just have to deal with it. Grundle2600 (talk) 09:27, 8 March 2010 (UTC)
- I think that a moderately contrite unblock request might help. I see the block as a close call. PhGustaf (talk) 21:13, 8 March 2010 (UTC)
- Thanks. But I think I'll learn more and behave better in the future, if I actually take my punishment now. Grundle2600 (talk) 21:24, 8 March 2010 (UTC)
- I think that a moderately contrite unblock request might help. I see the block as a close call. PhGustaf (talk) 21:13, 8 March 2010 (UTC)
- Just a reminder: Blocks are not meant to punish editors. They're preventative. I think you should wait for the block to expire (as you wisely indicated yourself). Any granted unblock request would probably just get you a quite more extensive block in the future if you violate your probation again. So yes, I think you should leave it as is and meanwhile we try to entertain you a bit. Doesn't sound too bad, or does it? Best, The Magnificent Clean-keeper (talk) 22:06, 8 March 2010 (UTC)
- Thanks. I agree with you. And I appreciate your company. I'm trying to view this as a vacation/rest where I can think about things. Also, if a person never has to deal with the consequences of their mistakes, then they miss out on the best lessons that life has to offer. Grundle2600 (talk) 22:48, 8 March 2010 (UTC)
- Just a reminder: Blocks are not meant to punish editors. They're preventative. I think you should wait for the block to expire (as you wisely indicated yourself). Any granted unblock request would probably just get you a quite more extensive block in the future if you violate your probation again. So yes, I think you should leave it as is and meanwhile we try to entertain you a bit. Doesn't sound too bad, or does it? Best, The Magnificent Clean-keeper (talk) 22:06, 8 March 2010 (UTC)
- Your last point is a very wise one. I live by that. Cheers,The Magnificent Clean-keeper (talk) 22:52, 8 March 2010 (UTC)
- ...at least I try very hard ;) The Magnificent Clean-keeper (talk) 22:54, 8 March 2010 (UTC)
I have spoken with my union representative about my block.
She said that during my block, I still get to collect my full salary. Whoo hoo! Grundle2600 (talk) 09:36, 8 March 2010 (UTC)
I see that ChildofMidnight is facing a possible block of one year.
I haven't followed the specifics of his case in great detail, but one year would be way too long. Come on, admins, you know he makes great contributions to the encyclopedia. Having him gone for a year is way beyond excessive. Grundle2600 (talk) 10:48, 8 March 2010 (UTC)
I've noticed that certain editors seem to be spending all their of time at wikipedia either filing ANI complaints and/or erasing content from articles. Perhaps if these people tried spending some time actually adding content to articles, they wouldn't be so quick to clamp down on people who make a few mistakes every now and then, but are otherwise excellent contributors to the encyclopedia. If a person who contributes lots of legitimate content to the encyclopedia occasionally messes up, there should be some leeway for that. Grundle2600 (talk) 11:19, 8 March 2010 (UTC)
- He's been in and out of arbcom before. I think the question is not whether to give someone a second chance, but when the chances end.
- That said, I don't have an opinion one way or another about this. I'm not well-versed on the issues here, and my interactions with CoM have been minimal. --King Öomie 14:38, 8 March 2010 (UTC)
- Even those who favor blocking him admit that he is a great contributor. I don't think blocks for great contributors should ever exceed 48 hours. A year is way past excessive. Grundle2600 (talk) 14:40, 8 March 2010 (UTC)
- Perhaps topic bans or other sanctions (of which he already has at least one) would be more pertinent. I'm sure it will all be considered. --King Öomie 16:16, 8 March 2010 (UTC)
- I agree with you - that would be much better. Grundle2600 (talk) 17:31, 8 March 2010 (UTC)
- Perhaps topic bans or other sanctions (of which he already has at least one) would be more pertinent. I'm sure it will all be considered. --King Öomie 16:16, 8 March 2010 (UTC)
- Even those who favor blocking him admit that he is a great contributor. I don't think blocks for great contributors should ever exceed 48 hours. A year is way past excessive. Grundle2600 (talk) 14:40, 8 March 2010 (UTC)
Whoa! I hadn't realized how bad daytime TV had become!
Before today's block, which has left me with plenty of time to watch weekday TV, I hadn't watched any weekday TV since I was a kid in the 1970s, when I watched reruns of Get Smart, Dick Van Dyke, Underdog, the Three Stooges, and Looney Tunes. But now today, all that's on - on every single channel - is reruns on Law & Order! You'd think that with 300 channels of cable today, compared to only 4 channels of non-cable when I was a kid, there'd be a bigger selection today than back then. But no - they had to put the same show on every single channel! What the heck is up with that? Grundle2600 (talk) 14:25, 8 March 2010 (UTC)
- Law & Order, or daytime gameshows, basically. Hope you're a fan of 'the wheel'. I'd say "I feel your pain", but I'm hardly ever home before 6. --King Öomie 14:33, 8 March 2010 (UTC)
- Oh yeah, I remember Wheel of Fortune. I stopped watching it after they stopped making the contestants waste all of their winnings by going shopping for the most ridiculous prizes imaginable. Grundle2600 (talk) 14:39, 8 March 2010 (UTC)
- When I was a kid I loved that one show where they let contestants loose in a store with a shopping cart and let them keep whatever they got. I always imagined what I'd do. --King Öomie 14:40, 8 March 2010 (UTC)
- I remember when they did that TV show in the supermarket - everyone always headed for the meat section. Grundle2600 (talk) 14:47, 8 March 2010 (UTC)
- Hah! Best way to win there would certainly be to run down the Vitamin aisle with your arm as a scoop on one of the shelves. Worth 3-4 times Prosciutto by weight. --King Öomie 16:21, 8 March 2010 (UTC)
- I remember when they did that TV show in the supermarket - everyone always headed for the meat section. Grundle2600 (talk) 14:47, 8 March 2010 (UTC)
- When I was a kid I loved that one show where they let contestants loose in a store with a shopping cart and let them keep whatever they got. I always imagined what I'd do. --King Öomie 14:40, 8 March 2010 (UTC)
- Oh yeah, I remember Wheel of Fortune. I stopped watching it after they stopped making the contestants waste all of their winnings by going shopping for the most ridiculous prizes imaginable. Grundle2600 (talk) 14:39, 8 March 2010 (UTC)
Update regarding the political status of Michelle Obama's arms.
According to today's newspaper, there is updated information regarding the political status of Michelle Obama's arms. The National Rifle Association scorecard has given a rating of 0% to Michelle's left arm, and a rating of 100% to her right arm. The Brady Campaign Against Gun Violence scorecard has given the exact reverse ratings, with a score of 100% for her left arm, and 0% for her right arm. All of these ratings, from both organizations, are based on a single photograph - which was taken when Michelle was eight years old - which shows her using her right arm to shoot a squirt gun. These poll results are having a huge effect on the ability of Michelle's arms to get elected to Congress - it's been rumored that one of her arms is considering dropping out of the next election - although different sources are inconsistent about whether it's her left or right arm. Grundle2600 (talk) 14:36, 8 March 2010 (UTC)
- That seems to be something you could add here ;) The Magnificent Clean-keeper (talk) 15:23, 8 March 2010 (UTC)
- I'm the person who created that. My account there is "Drop Dead Fred." But you knew that, I guess. Grundle2600 (talk) 15:30, 8 March 2010 (UTC)
- You had it posted here and I remembered.The Magnificent Clean-keeper (talk) 15:33, 8 March 2010 (UTC)
- If we would have a "fun-section" on WP like they do over there you could profit from it as it would be less restrained. But unfortunately we don't and I doubt we'll ever have one.The Magnificent Clean-keeper (talk) 15:38, 8 March 2010 (UTC)
- Wrong, O penintent one: Misplaced Pages:Department of Fun. Some clods keep trying to delete it. Baptists, probably. PhGustaf (talk) 15:53, 8 March 2010 (UTC)
- Most of the DoF articles are meta-references to Misplaced Pages itself. I can't think of one that pokes fun at a political figure (or the ridiculous press coverage of them). --King Öomie 16:18, 8 March 2010 (UTC)
- Wrong, O penintent one: Misplaced Pages:Department of Fun. Some clods keep trying to delete it. Baptists, probably. PhGustaf (talk) 15:53, 8 March 2010 (UTC)
- In resp. to PhGustaf: I didn't say that there are no fun related pages on WK, (BTW: thanks for the link), but it is not handled in a way Rationalwiki does. I added your link to my watchlist "to fight the damn censorship from Babtists" :D . Doh!The Magnificent Clean-keeper (talk) 16:30, 8 March 2010 (UTC)
- Long live biological evolution, and rock music with dirty lyrics! Grundle2600 (talk) 17:32, 8 March 2010 (UTC)
- In resp. to PhGustaf: I didn't say that there are no fun related pages on WK, (BTW: thanks for the link), but it is not handled in a way Rationalwiki does. I added your link to my watchlist "to fight the damn censorship from Babtists" :D . Doh!The Magnificent Clean-keeper (talk) 16:30, 8 March 2010 (UTC)
- LOL. (No further comment needed in response) :) The Magnificent Clean-keeper (talk) 18:18, 8 March 2010 (UTC)
- Bend it. PhGustaf (talk) 21:09, 8 March 2010 (UTC)
- Grundle2600 (talk) 21:12, 8 March 2010 (UTC)
- A 60s song, I think by The Troggs, that mimicked an orgasm. I can't seem to find the lyrics online. But the song started out in fast tempo with, "Bend it, bend it, show that you can do the..." and got gradually faster till the largo last line of "...when we're endin', you'll be bendin'". PhGustaf (talk) 21:20, 8 March 2010 (UTC)
- Thanks for the explanation. Grundle2600 (talk) 21:23, 8 March 2010 (UTC)
- A 60s song, I think by The Troggs, that mimicked an orgasm. I can't seem to find the lyrics online. But the song started out in fast tempo with, "Bend it, bend it, show that you can do the..." and got gradually faster till the largo last line of "...when we're endin', you'll be bendin'". PhGustaf (talk) 21:20, 8 March 2010 (UTC)
- Grundle2600 (talk) 21:12, 8 March 2010 (UTC)
- Bend it. PhGustaf (talk) 21:09, 8 March 2010 (UTC)
- "Bend it". And I thought you where talking dirty... tsts... XD The Magnificent Clean-keeper (talk) 22:11, 8 March 2010 (UTC)
"grundle's cool animal of the week"
Over at this other website, every week I choose an animal and start a discussion about it by posting its wikipedia article. I've been doing this for about three years now, and you can see my list of all the animals that I have chosen so far, along with links to all the discussions, here. Grundle2600 (talk) 23:06, 8 March 2010 (UTC)
- I'm just about to sit down and have dinner but if I could change and choose I guess I would go for the Humboldt Squid. *Yummy* :) . Have a good night.The Magnificent Clean-keeper (talk) 23:18, 8 March 2010 (UTC)
- They are for learning - not eating!!! Grundle2600 (talk) 23:21, 8 March 2010 (UTC)
- Oops? But seriously, I was just to post the following:
- PS: I realize that not all animals listed are meant to eat by humans. Just don't wont you to get the wrong impression about me and my food intake.The Magnificent Clean-keeper (talk) 23:29, 8 March 2010 (UTC)
- I have chicken breast tonight ;) The Magnificent Clean-keeper (talk) 23:31, 8 March 2010 (UTC)
- My "shocked" reaction to your comment was intended to be humorous. Please eat whatever you enjoy eating! Grundle2600 (talk) 00:18, 9 March 2010 (UTC)
- That Strawberry Crab is wild--looks almost too good to eat. Drmies (talk) 00:40, 9 March 2010 (UTC)
- It looks like a strawberry - but I bet it tastes like a crab. Grundle2600 (talk) 00:47, 9 March 2010 (UTC)
- That Strawberry Crab is wild--looks almost too good to eat. Drmies (talk) 00:40, 9 March 2010 (UTC)
- My "shocked" reaction to your comment was intended to be humorous. Please eat whatever you enjoy eating! Grundle2600 (talk) 00:18, 9 March 2010 (UTC)
What's red, and smells like blue paint?
No fair googling or asking someone! Grundle2600 (talk) 00:36, 9 March 2010 (UTC)
- Eh, that bumper sticker about the incredibly small red dot in the overwhelmingly blue state! Drmies (talk) 00:39, 9 March 2010 (UTC)
- Thanks for trying - I appreciate your effort. But that's not the answer. Grundle2600 (talk) 00:45, 9 March 2010 (UTC)
- Well, I didn't phrase it very well anyway--I meant that the dot was red but the smell blue. So I didn't win anything? I'm being oppressed! I'm having my parents call the principal! Drmies (talk) 00:50, 9 March 2010 (UTC)
- Since I am the superintendent, I'm not worried about you calling the principal. Grundle2600 (talk) 01:02, 9 March 2010 (UTC)