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Robert Morey

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This AfD process has been further disrupted by a sockpuppet of Jason Gastrich, Wiggins2. See his contributions: they consist almost solely of soliciting others to come to these AfDs and vote keep.

Submitted by an anon via Articles for Creation. Serious problems with NPOV, several dubious claims and rebuttals, but no actual indication of why the hell we should care who this guy is. The section arguing about the legitimacy of his claimed doctorates is far and away the most interesting part ofg the article,and that only to see just how POV it can get before someone steps in and speedies it as an attack. Just zis  Guy, you know? / AfD? 01:47, 20 January 2006 (UTC)

• Delete Not notable - Amazon won't even gift-wrap The Trinity: Evidence And Issues. Dlyons493 Talk 01:55, 20 January 2006 (UTC)

lol. I haven't said lol in some time. Nonetheless, I find your criteria for inclusion quite amusing! --Jason Gastrich 07:49, 21 January 2006 (UTC)

• Keep. Much more notable than the Ali Sina types. NPOVing is important though, sorry if my keep vote gives anyone more work. gren グレン 02:14, 20 January 2006 (UTC)
• Delete Another one I probably should've nominated a few days ago. A.J.A. 03:49, 20 January 2006 (UTC)

Right . . . because you're the Christian who wants to get rid of Christian entries on Misplaced Pages; even obvious keepers like Thomas Ice and Grant Jeffrey. Makes sense to people from outer space. --Jason Gastrich 10:08, 20 January 2006 (UTC)

He wants to keep relevant and notable Christian entries. The debate is the relevance and notability of the subject, not whether or not the A.J.A. is attacking "christian articles". -Harvestdancer 17:40, 20 January 2006 (UTC)

Ironically, if I were more concerned with promoting Christianity I would've voted to delete the Gothard article. A.J.A. 20:22, 20 January 2006 (UTC)

Wow, someone nominated Gothard for deletion. They must have been sniffing the same glue that the guy was sniffing who nominated Grant Jeffrey and Thomas Ice for deletion . . . just kidding. Kinda. --Jason Gastrich 07:48, 21 January 2006 (UTC)

• Keep. We don't delete because an anon submitted an article, or because of POV problems. He certainly seems to be of interest to some people. Logophile 07:23, 20 January 2006 (UTC)
• Delete. What exactly is this guy notable for? NOTHING in the article seems like really encyclopedic info. Zunaid 09:42, 20 January 2006 (UTC)
• Strong keep. Notable figure with plenty of interesting, encyclopedic information that indicates he is notable. --Jason Gastrich 10:08, 20 January 2006 (UTC)
• Keep published author, referenced -- Astrokey44|talk 11:30, 20 January 2006 (UTC)
• Delete not notable over-claiming preacher. Sliggy 13:29, 20 January 2006 (UTC)
• Keep. Article still has a lot of POV, but some attempts are being made to offer balance and criticism. Seems to be part of a concerted campaign by a few editors to censor out a particular community. --StuffOfInterest 13:55, 20 January 2006 (UTC)
• Very weak keep, or perhaps merge to a larger Faith Defenders article. --badlydrawnjeff 15:02, 20 January 2006 (UTC)
• Delete nn --kingboyk 15:08, 20 January 2006 (UTC)
• Delete as per JzG. This attempt to include all sorts of people of highly questionable credentials and notability does not reflect well on Misplaced Pages. MCB 02:19, 21 January 2006 (UTC)
• Delete as a non-notable charlatan, with self-awarded-and-styled diploma mill degrees, of no academic worthiness and none relevant to poltics/theology overlap. Blnguyen 04:06, 21 January 2006 (UTC)
• Comment Should part of this biography be blended into an article about California Biblical University and Seminary? Arbustoo 06:50, 21 January 2006 (UTC)
• Weak Keep. Good job, this one actually has some citations. LBU "alumni": 4 "Weak Keep", 2 "Delete". Grandmasterka 21:35, 21 January 2006 (UTC)
• Delete per JzG, Gastrichcruft. Stifle 00:29, 22 January 2006 (UTC)
• Delete, and I agree...the way we keep having to accommodate for people of questionable credentials (and questionable morals) is troublesome for Misplaced Pages. - WarriorScribe 01:16, 22 January 2006 (UTC)