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Rewriting the list

When looking at the cemeteries of England, it was my opinion that it was a very poor list. At the moment I am working on updating that list and making the necessary links.

Because the list of cemeteries in London is substantial and because there is a separate portal for London, I have moved the cemeteries of London to a separate list, using a Wikisort table. The name of the cemetery is linked to an article. This has also meant that remarks on notable people and such have been removed as they should be covered in the article and not in this list. The column "remarks" is only used for distinguishing features.

If you want to add a cemetery, you can insert that after filling this "template" (invisible as it is a remark):

My aim is to finish both the England and London list by the end of September 2010.

--JHvW (talk) 06:53, 15 September 2010 (UTC)

What is notable?

In my opinion a cemetery is notable when it fits at least two of the following categories:

1. The cemetery has listed buildings or structures

2. English Heritage says it is interesting (the site is in the National Register of Historic Parks and Gardens or other publication by EH)

3. It has special historical value (such as the Magnificent Seven)

4. At least five people of note are buried in the cemetery (they have to be mentioned in Misplaced Pages)

5. The cemetery has won a Green Flag Award or has Green Heritage Site Accreditation

6. The cemetery is on the UNESCO World Heritage List

7. The cemetery has an article in Misplaced Pages (although exceptions can be made for those cemeteries that really lack notability)

8. The community does not say a cemetery can not stay on the list

9. It has a "friends" movement supporting it

10. The community suggests inclusion.

Not included in this list are:

1. Cemeteries not meant for humans

2. Cemeteries that do not meet above criteria

3. Cemeteries I have forgotten

Examples:

• West Norwood Cemetery is a grade II* park, has 65 structures rated II or II*, is part of the Magnificent Seven, is of special historic interest and has an active friends movement.
• Grove Park Cemetery was listed by English Heritage as a landscape of special historic interest in November 2003 (Grade II).

--JHvW (talk) 19:55, 16 September 2010 (UTC)

Thanks for making a useful ordering of the items. I note that Criteria 6-10 are fairly weak criteria for inclusion. Suggest leaving it at just 1-5. Also, getting a Green Flag merely shows that the cemetery is maintained whereas getting a Green Heritage flag shows that it has achieved some notability. I have tweaked the wording to reflect this. One other item that may be worthy of inclusion is those cemeteries has been subject to specific legislation or a court action that sets a precedent. (Though I can't think of any in London that haven't already been picked up by other criteria).

• Grove Park and Teddington have been included because English heritage has determined that they deserve a special place as historic landscapes. Hither Green is included because it has a special function as a nature reserve.

Ephebi (talk) 15:43, 20 September 2010 (UTC)

Suggestions

--JHvW (talk) 20:23, 16 September 2010 (UTC)

Suggestions for removal

None as yet

--JHvW (talk) 11:42, 19 September 2010 (UTC)

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